The Temple of Doomed Relationships

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I never understood the choking in terms of cutting off the oxygen flow...freaks me out. Hands around the neck would be fine, but no putting pressure.
 
That's one that I've never asked for. I like hair pulling and being tied up and...other things too graphic for SHH, but choking does not appeal.
 
Me? No. But if I'm gonna end up in pound me in the ass prison, I certainly don't wanna get their on an accidental rape charge. :o
 
Well obviously if you are afraid she is going to die, then you're choking her too hard.
The thing is, more often then not the boldness of your actions will put her over the edge.

Don't do anything you personally are not comfortable with. At the same time don't be so fear motivated either.

If you do something a girl really does not like she will tell you, and you just take it down a level.

I'm capable of being gentle too, but sometimes I like to really ravage a woman, and I see nothing wrong with being rough.
 
SuperMike335!! said:
Who said anything about waiting for the girl to "ask" for it?
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Well yeah, but in my case, my significant other has never expressed an interest in it lol. I do think that when it comes to something like choking, permission should be given, or perhaps talk about it beforehand :oldrazz:
 
SuperMike335!! said:
Well obviously if you are afraid she is going to die, then you're choking her too hard.

The thing is, more often then not the boldness of your actions will put her over the edge.

Don't do anything you personally are not comfortable with. At the same time don't be so fear motivated either.
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:whatever: I'm not motivated by fear, I'm not naive either. If she asks to be choked, I might be inclined, I've had girls ask for various things in the past, but choking is pretty forward.
If you do something a girl really does not like she will tell you, and you just take it down a level.

I'm capable of being gentle too, but sometimes I like to really ravage a woman, and I see nothing wrong with being rough.
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If someone put their hands around my neck in a choking fashion, for me personally, discussion time is over. I'm punching their lights out. I wouldn't be surprised if many women would have a similar response.

You could seriously frighten someone choking them, especially if it's unexpected. Like ATP said, certain lines require some clear headed discussion ahead of time. In my opinion, choking is one of them. At the very least, you ought to try more "gentle" rough play to at least see how she responds to that before putting your hands around her neck. There are a lot of girls too who will tolerate acts in bed they do not like simply out of a desire to please their man. You simply can't take the fact that you "got away with it" as a sign that what you did is something she enjoys.
 
AndThePickles said:
Well yeah, but in my case, my significant other has never expressed an interest in it lol. I do think that when it comes to something like choking, permission should be given, or perhaps talk about it beforehand :oldrazz:
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No, I never seek permission.

The whole thing is about doing something without permission, breaking the rules of good conduct.

Its about passionately crushing the modern social rules that constrict us in our soft cushioned existence, and making the act instinctive aggressive and carnal.

She is doing something against the rules herself by taking that seemingly innocent body of hers into the dimly lit lair of a man who does not abide by all of our modern social "rules".

Throwing aside all of the inhibitions as he consumes her, as if all the confines of her proper life are being torn asunder by the forces of nature and lust.

In this place she is allowed to fully revel in a violent and erotic act.

Permission does not exist into that domain.
 
SuperMike335!! said:
She is doing something against the rules herself by taking that seemingly innocent body of hers into the dimly lit lair of a man who does not abide by all of our modern social "rules".

Throwing aside all of the inhibitions as he consumes her, as if all the confines of her proper life are being torn asunder by the forces of nature and lust.

In this place she is allowed to fully revel in a violent and erotic act.

Permission does not exist into that domain.
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She's not breaking any rules by sleeping with someone:whatever:

She's not innocent either, I don't really think of people as "seemingly innocent". I mean people like sex, that's a fairly common thread, only very rare exceptions occur. The kind of sex people like vary. Some people simply are not sexually compatible, because even the people without "rules" have preferences. Some people do like choking, and some people like things even more extreme than that. I wouldn't exactly brand someone without asking, but look it up, I'm sure it's a thriving fetish.

I'm pretty aware of my strength in relation to your average girl. I could, hypothetically, really hurt someone. If they are complicit with that risk, maybe I'd negotiate something, but at the end of the day they are human and maybe they don't want choke marks around their neck the next day. As I say, you have to be careful, some people are simply too meek to deny someone's aggressive advances. More often than not I find women can be easily manipulated by stronger men, and the women who will stand up for themselves are few and far between. Maybe that's a gender thing, maybe it's common for guys too, I don't know. A lot of this teeters on abuse though. Abusers may not necessarily be told by their woman that what they are doing upsets them. As I say, this is something I'd discuss beforehand. Not just because of the dangers, but because that's really something you should know about before you simply go and do it. There really is no harm or fear in asking first.
 
Yeah, breath play (choking) is something that needs to be discussed. I've been asked to do it, and yes it can be a bit of a turn on.
 
Optimus_Prime_ said:
:whatever: I'm not motivated by fear, I'm not naive either. If she asks to be choked, I might be inclined, I've had girls ask for various things in the past, but choking is pretty forward.

If someone put their hands around my neck in a choking fashion, for me personally, discussion time is over. I'm punching their lights out. I wouldn't be surprised if many women would have a similar response.

You could seriously frighten someone choking them, especially if it's unexpected. Like ATP said, certain lines require some clear headed discussion ahead of time. In my opinion, choking is one of them. At the very least, you ought to try more "gentle" rough play to at least see how she responds to that before putting your hands around her neck. There are a lot of girls too who will tolerate acts in bed they do not like simply out of a desire to please their man. You simply can't take the fact that you "got away with it" as a sign that what you did is something she enjoys.
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Optimus_Prime_ said:
She's not breaking any rules by sleeping with someone:whatever:

She's not innocent either, I don't really think of people as "seemingly innocent". I mean people like sex, that's a fairly common thread, only very rare exceptions occur. The kind of sex people like vary. Some people simply are not sexually compatible, because even the people without "rules" have preferences. Some people do like choking, and some people like things even more extreme than that. I wouldn't exactly brand someone without asking, but look it up, I'm sure it's a thriving fetish.

I'm pretty aware of my strength in relation to your average girl. I could, hypothetically, really hurt someone. If they are complicit with that risk, maybe I'd negotiate something, but at the end of the day they are human and maybe they don't want choke marks around their neck the next day. As I say, you have to be careful, some people are simply too meek to deny someone's aggressive advances. More often than not I find women can be easily manipulated by stronger men, and the women who will stand up for themselves are few and far between. Maybe that's a gender thing, maybe it's common for guys too, I don't know. A lot of this teeters on abuse though. Abusers may not necessarily be told by their woman that what they are doing upsets them. As I say, this is something I'd discuss beforehand. Not just because of the dangers, but because that's really something you should know about before you simply go and do it. There really is no harm or fear in asking first.
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Don't go white knight on me here with "abuse" talk.

Obviously I start by excalating and gauging what level of roughness she can handle. Things like how she responds to the roughness and firmness of grip on her, how she responds when her arms held down firmly to her sides. There are plenty more details I could mention, but you get the idea.

You don't honestly think I'm suggesting to just pull out choking like a trick from magicians hat do you?

How do you think I know weather she appreciates it?

You don't think there is any chance that after what I do, the appreciation is mentioned by her later?

If for some reason women did not want to have sex with me again, or they mentioned that I was too rough or what not, don't you think I would adjust for that and stop doing those things?

Perhaps if I am continuing to do something it is because it is being rewarded.

As far as her really not being so innocent, that IS my point. She isn't that innocent and does not really want to be treated as an innocent and delicate thing.
 
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