The Trump Thread!!! - Part 2

[InCali]

Trump is pretty bright. The media is trying to bring him down while they can, but will shield the political dimwits on the Democratic side.

Here's one.

Joe Biden!

Trump isn't stupid and if you REALLY think Joe Biden is (which I doubt), then you truly are an idiot.

 

[Schlosser85]

That's funny. Yes, Michael Moore gets "air time" for pointing out economic, gun control, etc. issues. Just because someone doesn't agree with you politically and has views drastically different than yours, doesn't mean they are nuts. I don't think Michael Moore is in Sarah's league. Air Time??? None of the people you pointed out were seriously considered for the highest and second highest office in the US (and if you are on the ticket for VP, you are being considered as president). Please, don't even try to compare the level of exposure or the possibility to put someone in a political office that means something.

I'm a lousy democrat, but the republican party HAS put Palin on the ballot as one of their standard bearers and MAY do the same with Trump. Those people are in a different league when it comes to being charlatans.

My mother is a staunch republican who I consider to be a "true" conservative and I respect that. She believes in civil liberties, supports gay rights, believes in the right to bear arms (with background checks), women's rights, etc. In my opinion, the "conservative" movement has been hijacked by a bunch of religious bigots (Pat Robertson and his ilk).

Barry Goldwater Sr. supported gay rights long before it was fashionable. While I would disagree with him on a plethora of issues, Sarah Palin and Donald Trump don't deserve to wash his dirty socks and have less integrity in their entire body than he had in his fingernail.

Absolutely.

The GOP has been hijacked by a poison gang of snake oil salesmen who call themselves conservative Christians while basically being 180 degrees opposed to everything true conservatives and true Christians stand for.

Someone like Pat Robertson wouldn't know conservative or Christian if it bit him on the ass.

And they know exactly what they're doing. They are toxic. They worship money and power, those are their only gods.

The GOP needs to tell these HYDRA wannabe vipers to take a hike, not pander to them at every turn. But now they're too entrenched, and they're afraid to go against them.

The old Republican Party would never have stood for constitutional amendments and the Patriot Act. They'd have been appalled.

 

[SV Fan]

Palin, Trump and Hee Haw

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[InCali]

Absolutely.

The GOP has been hijacked by a poison gang of snake oil salesmen who call themselves conservative Christians while basically being 180 degrees opposed to everything true conservatives and true Christians stand for.

Someone like Pat Robertson wouldn't know conservative or Christian if it bit him on the ass.

And they know exactly what they're doing. They are toxic. They worship money and power, those are their only gods.

The GOP needs to tell these HYDRA wannabe vipers to take a hike, not pander to them at every turn. But now they're too entrenched, and they're afraid to go against them.

The old Republican Party would never have stood for constitutional amendments and the Patriot Act. They'd have been appalled.

It's amazing to me that people don't see this. Someone's religion should never be a litmus test for their fitness for office, but everybody is falling all over themselves to proclaim themselves a Christian.

Personally, I think religion is a bunch of BS people came up with to control behavior. There may be some sort of religion like thing that's real, but I sure as heck don't have any idea about what it is.

And, by the way, my mother has said that if Trump were to be nominated, it would be the first time in her life that she doesn't vote for president (would never even consider Clinton or Sanders). I would write what she called Trump, but it would probably lead to me getting banned. I suspect she isn't alone in the republican party. Trump's toxicity is at an entirely different level and while he has strong support among his followers, there are large groups of people who would never ever consider voting for him.

If he does get the nomination, look for him to tone it WAY, WAY down in the general election.

 

[Matt Mortem]

The GOP needs to really look at whats become of their party. The top two contenders for the nomination are not who they want, by a long shot. The GOP does not want Trump, but will back him to avoid someone worse like Ted Cruz. Hell, I'd take Trump over Cruz. Once Trump is in office and out of speeches and rally's he'll piss his pants and assign people to handle all those presidential duties that need down, and most likely just continue policies of the past for the sake of simplicity. Cruz, on the other hand, is a true believing ******* who shouldn't be in public office let alone the presidents office.

 

[InCali]

The GOP needs to really look at whats become of their party. The top two contenders for the nomination are not who they want, by a long shot. The GOP does not want Trump, but will back him to avoid someone worse like Ted Cruz. Hell, I'd take Trump over Cruz. Once Trump is in office and out of speeches and rally's he'll piss his pants and assign people to handle all those presidential duties that need down, and most likely just continue policies of the past for the sake of simplicity. Cruz, on the other hand, is a true believing ******* who shouldn't be in public office let alone the presidents office.

The thing that bothers me about Trump is that he's so full of $#!t that I have no idea what he would do if he DID get elected. In my eyes, he's a total wildcard and that makes him scarier. I know what Clinton and Sanders would try to do (pretty much). Agree about Cruz. He's a ruthless, self-serving individual who just wants to be on top and doesn't care about anyone else.

 

[Legendver2]

http://www.vox.com/2016/1/25/10828770/trump-terrorist-family-appeal

Shortly before the Mesa event, Trump had pledged to kill the families of suspected terrorists to deter them from attacking America. "When you get these terrorists," Trump said, "you have to take out their families."

O'Reilly, at the event, asked Trump if he was serious. According to Lizza, Trump said yes — and the crowd roared their approval:

Trump’s fans tend to express little regard for political norms. They cheer at his most outlandish statements. O’Reilly asked Trump if he meant it when he said that he would "take out" the family members of terrorists. He didn’t believe that Trump would "put out hits on women and children" if he were elected. Trump replied, "I would do pretty severe stuff." The Mesa crowd erupted in applause. "Yeah, baby!" a man near me yelled. I had never previously been to a political event at which people cheered for the murder of women and children.

Wow, we're reaching a new level of cray here

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They are literally in favor of killing innocent women and children. Oh, yes. These are the good guys in this election.

 

[Schlosser85]

People can stop asking how a civilized advanced nation followed Hitler.

Frankly, at this point I have no respect for the moral character of anyone supporting Trump.

 

[Victarion]

Whelp, I can no longer say that Stephen King's Randall Flagg was too over the top....that's what this reminds me of.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

People can stop asking how a civilized advanced nation followed Hitler.

Frankly, at this point I have no respect for the moral character of anyone supporting Trump.

How in the hell can you cheer murder, of innocents no less? This is what you support if you support this horrible human being.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well, as much as I detest Trump, this really isn't too hard to understand. It's primal human nature. You attack my family, I attack yours. It's just rare to see someone lay it out so crudely. FDR didn't say it, he just firebombed cities the families of America's enemies lived in.

 

[Marvolo]

Our american drones have been killing innocent civillians (men, women, and children) for years. So its not likeTrump is proposing some new radical approach. He is just admitting he'd do what our government and military is currently already doing. Our government says its accidents when they do it, but thats probably BS.

It is pretty disturbing tho that people cheer about this sort of thing. Im not against drones, in fact I think they are one of the best advancements in our modern military, but not for one damn second do I like that our drones kill innocent people. Id rather we get better at not killing innocent civillians. Not cheer about it and kill more innocent civillians. So **** Trump for openly promoting that, and **** his supporters for cheering about it.

 

[InCali]

Our american drones have been killing innocent civillians (men, women, and children) for years. So its not likeTrump is proposing some new radical approach. He is just admitting he'd do what our government and military is currently already doing. Our government says its accidents when they do it, but thats probably BS.

It is pretty disturbing tho that people cheer about this sort of thing. Im not against drones, in fact I think they are one of the best advancements in our modern military, but not for one damn second do I like that our drones kill innocent people. Id rather we get better at not killing innocent civillians. Not cheer about it and kill more innocent civillians. So **** Trump for openly promoting that, and **** his supporters for cheering about it.

It's true that drone strikes have been responsible for civilian casualties/ deaths, but I hope to god those drone strikes don't have innocent civilians as their target. So, what Trump is saying is worse than that. He's talking about TARGETING innocent civilians. If what he is saying is okay, why wouldn't it be okay for someone to take out HIS family?

I think we all realize that innocent bystanders get killed during times of conflict, but at LEAST try to avoid it happening; intentionally killing innocent people has a name and it's called murder.

 

[DeadFan]

I am no fan of Trump at all. I am an independent who leans liberal. But Trump's response in above quote, when asked for clarification was "I would do pretty severe stuff." Define "pretty severe stuff." Dealing with a baby - what is "pretty severe"? dealing with a 6 year old female "what is pretty severe"? and so on--- we are just left make our own assumptions and use our own definitions here.

 

[InCali]

I am no fan of Trump at all. I am an independent who leans liberal. But Trump's response in above quote, when asked for clarification was "I would do pretty severe stuff." Define "pretty severe stuff." Dealing with a baby - what is "pretty severe"? dealing with a 6 year old female "what is pretty severe"? and so on--- we are just left make our own assumptions and use our own definitions here.

I've noticed that he has a tendency to make these outrageous statements and then "clarify" by using words that can be interpreted in a million different ways. In other words, his clarifications tend to obfuscate.

 

[Paradoxium]

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/republican-candidate

Betting sites has Trump as the favorite. Cruz was the one and only shot as a not-Trump candidate. Trump will probably be the nominee.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/republican-candidate

Betting sites has Trump as the favorite. Cruz was the one and only shot as a not-Trump candidate. Trump will probably be the nominee.

This is the site you want to follow to know what the stats (polling data) say.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/

 

[SV Fan]

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/republican-candidate

Betting sites has Trump as the favorite. Cruz was the one and only shot as a not-Trump candidate. Trump will probably be the nominee.

Polls show that if Cruz is out of the race more of his voters will go to everybody else then Trump. Cruz losing in Iowa might be the best thing for everybody but Trump(assuming Cruz still stays int he race but only gets a percentage of votes he does now) and Cruz

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Trump can lose Iowa, but he can't afford to lose both Iowa and New Hampshire. If he does, it either means that he is massively underperforming his polls (meaning all the other polls showing him winning are likely wrong too) or that there is a fast-rising contender that has zoomed by him at the last minute. Either way that is bad for him.

Unlike Clinton, who can easily survive losing the first two states because of her crushing advantage among minorities and her Southern firewall, Trump likely needs to win one of them if he's going to get the nomination.

 

[jmc]

People can stop asking how a civilized advanced nation followed Hitler.

Frankly, at this point I have no respect for the moral character of anyone supporting Trump.

The thing is Germany wasn't that advanced a nation. They were still in the infancy of democracy after years and years of monarchal rule, essentially ignorance won Hitler power because people didn't really know any better.

 

[InCali]

This is the site you want to follow to know what the stats (polling data) say.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/

Nate Silver is a much better statistician than I ever was and I wasn't too bad. Man, I'd love to be a fly on the wall or be working for him. My mentor was a brilliant guy and I learned a lot from him. It would be a gas understanding how that guy thinks.

Statistics isn't number crunching like some people think it is. It's more about going in with a good, solid theory about how things work and testing your hypothesis in a non-biased way. It's a difficult and (for me) fun way of looking at things. It takes a lot of curiosity.

 

[Tilapia]

So, Hilary in a landslide barring another Clinton scandal (Hilary caught cheating with Al Gore back when level scandal)? I'm not a Hilary person, but I don't see how she can lose to anyone out of the GoP at this point. I feel Trump will get annihilated by the independents out there.

 

[Sawyer]

Twitter is having a field day with the guy, who says he'll "make our military so big, powerful and strong that no one will mess with us," running away from a Megyn Kelly-moderated debate.

 

[Pink Ranger]

So, Hilary in a landslide barring another Clinton scandal (Hilary caught cheating with Al Gore back when level scandal)?

That won't cause a scandal, but Trump would win when the nationwide simultaneous cringing shifts the continent and drops California, Oregon and Washington into the ocean.