The unAUTHENTIC DC Boards Lounge version 8.0

[Anubis]

I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just saying........the tap is dry, the bar skanks have gone home with drunk dudes who will soon have the clap, and somebody has fallen asleep while s**ting in the men's room sink. You've missed the party.

 

[Mystirious]

Casanova should be retitled Throw Weird S*** at a Wall and See What Sticks!

But he is fighting pandas Corp

You know you loves it really

I must buy this

 

[Hush]

I just watched X2 and holy **** had i forgotten how good it was. They did a great Job with First Class too tying up everything they addressed in all the previous movies.

 

[Charlie Boy]

I haven't seen X2 in years... I wish it was streaming on Netflix

 

[Drz]

Avengers movie just confirmed even more awesome:
While much of the plot remains under wraps (look for an EW cover story next month to reveal First Look photos and exclusive details of the story), D23 attendees got to see snippets of two tense scenes between Nick Fury and Loki, and Iron Man alter-ego Tony Stark and the god-gone-wild.

The first sequence featured an imprisoned (or is he still somehow in control?) Loki, locked in a cylindrical glass and steel cell on board the S.H.I.E.L.D. hellicarrier.

“You try to escape you so much as scratch that glass …” Fury says, throwing a switch that opens a gaping vortex into a gray rainstorm. “30,000 feet, straight down in a steel trap.”

Loki smiles. “It’s an impressive cage, but not built for me.”

“Built for something a lot stronger than you,” Fury snaps back.

We cut to Smulders’ Agent Maria Hill watching the exchange on a monitor. The cage is meant for Bruce Banner (Mark Ruffalo) when he Hulks out and needs a time-out. Loki seems to know all about this, and smirks: “How desperate are you, to call on such lost creatures to defend you?”

“How desperate am I?” Fury growls. “You threaten my world with war. You steel a force you can’t control. You talk about peace, but you kill because its fun… ”
Loki is unaffected. “It burns you to be so close,” he says. “To have the tesseract (that cosmic cube from Odin’s court that was the source of all the fighting in Captain America). To have power. And for what? A warm light for all mankind to share.” Loki’s smile fades: “Allow me to remind you of what real power is.”

Fury waves him off and descends some steel steps, leaving Loki alone in the empty chamber. “Well, let me know if ‘Real Power’ wants a magazine or something.”

Loki glowers at a camera monitoring him, and the movie cuts to Ruffalo’s Bruce Banner. “He really grows on you doesn’t he?”

The second scene is a conversation between Tony Stark and Loki, apparently… in Stark’s private bar? In any case, Tony’s having a drink.

“Let’s do a head count,” Stark says, as the camera cuts to shots of Renner and Johansson as Hawkeye and Black Widow. “Two world class assassins …”

Cut to Thor: “A demigod …”

Cut to Captain America: “A living legend who actually lives up to the legend …”
Now we’re back with Loki and Stark: “And you, big fella!” Stark says. “You’ve managed to piss off every single one of them!”

“I have an army,” Loki snarls.

Stark gets right in the villainous god’s face. “We have a Hulk.”

Boom! Commence cheering!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

F*** that movie. Thor is a god, not a demigod.

Mainstream comics pay the bills for writers. Nick Spencer seems genuily loved, but from what it seems only Thunder AGENTS is a loved Big company comic he's writing, now i personally did enjoy his Secret Avengers tie-ins, but apparently (yeah, just reading from others) his War Machine comic is a total bore.

Mainstream movies pay the bills for actors, but we don't often excuse them for turning in s***ty performances in s***ty blockbusters. I don't see why we should just shrug and go, "Well, Bendis sure does suck at writing the Avengers, but I'll forgive it because he's got bills to pay."

What, Like Kirkman?

Kirkman is such a pretentious ******* when it comes to mainstream comics. This coming from the guy who's claim to fame is writing a ****ing Zombie comic. Albeit a good one, but you get the point.

What he said. I like plenty that Kirkman has done, but it's just a dick move for anyone to actively advocate not fulfilling their childhood dreams of writing any of the major characters who more than likely were the reason they ever read a comic in the first place. The medium needs its Spider-Men and Batmen and Wolverines, and those characters need writers. Plus, comics are nothing if not revolving-door scenarios. Writers are gonna have plenty of time to do their cutting-edge, stunningly original indie stuff whether they take on a major mainstream character's series for a few years or not.

 

[Charlie Boy]

Sounds cool.

 

[Anubis]

Well, clearly he doesn't want to write them.

Looking at most of his mainstream work, he can't.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Marvel Team-Up was pretty fun. That was almost all big mainstream characters.

 

[Hush]

Avengers sounds awesome, except I'm starting to wonder if they are in the damn helicarrier the whole time. Also **** them Thor is a god.

 

[Drz]

F*** that movie. Thor is a god, not a demigod.

Not after this scene.

Mainstream movies pay the bills for actors, but we don't often excuse them for turning in s***ty performances in s***ty blockbusters. I don't see why we should just shrug and go, "Well, Bendis sure does suck at writing the Avengers, but I'll forgive it because he's got bills to pay."

I'm just saying creator-owned work allows them to go free withouth that much editorial restrictions.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Mainstream movies pay the bills for actors, but we don't often excuse them for turning in s***ty performances in s***ty blockbusters. I don't see why we should just shrug and go, "Well, Bendis sure does suck at writing the Avengers, but I'll forgive it because he's got bills to pay."

Well, I don't really think anyone is talking about necessarily excusing crappy stuff in general because of good stuff, but I honestly just don't understand disliking or dismissing that artist as a whole because of mainstream stuff that they're (possibly) doing simply from necessity to pay the bills.

With the exception of Casanova. It excuses all.

 

[Anubis]

Marvel Team-Up was pretty fun. That was almost all big mainstream characters.

Oh yeah, he did do Marvel Team-Up, that was awesome.

Everything outside of MTU however was Meh to s**t.

 

[Anubis]

Well, I don't really think anyone is talking about necessarily excusing crappy stuff in general because of good stuff, but I honestly just don't understand disliking or dismissing that artist as a whole because of mainstream that they're (possibly) doing simply from necessity to pay the bills.

With the exception of Casanova. It excuses all.

I tend to take it on a case by case basis unless there's like a consecutive string of s**t productions. Like Loeb.

 

[Mystirious]

I just watched X2 and holy **** had i forgotten how good it was. They did a great Job with First Class too tying up everything they addressed in all the previous movies.

X Men 2 was fab definitely my favourite out of the three original X Men movies

F*** that movie. Thor is a god, not a demigod.

But Tony Stark was the one who said it Corp. While in his private bar. He was probably drunk and got it wrong

Thor is a forgiving guy so he will only ***** smack Tony once for his mistake

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, I don't really think anyone is talking about necessarily excusing crappy stuff in general because of good stuff, but I honestly just don't understand disliking or dismissing that artist as a whole because of mainstream that they're (possibly) doing simply from necessity to pay the bills.

With the exception of Casanova. It excuses all.

Only you consider Casanova mainstream.

I never said I dismiss anyone due to their mainstream work. I judge each work on its own, unless enough terrible ones pile up for me to feel comfortable just ignoring that creator's work altogether. But even then, I get that mainstream and indie work are apples and oranges. I'm talking about, for example, writing off Warren Ellis on Secret Avengers because all of his other mainstream work I've read has been mediocre to terrible; that doesn't mean I'd be averse to trying out another Fell-like experimental indie title from him, though. Usually, the great indie writers suck at mainstream comics because they abjectly refuse to respect the characters' long-standing established personalities. That's not an issue with indie work--especially creator-owned indie work.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Only you consider Casanova mainstream.

I do? Okay, I'll take that.

I never said I dismiss anyone due to their mainstream work. I judge each work on its own, unless enough terrible ones pile up for me to feel comfortable just ignoring that creator's work altogether. But even then, I get that mainstream and indie work are apples and oranges. I'm talking about, for example, writing off Warren Ellis on Secret Avengers because all of his other mainstream work I've read has been mediocre to terrible; that doesn't mean I'd be averse to trying out another Fell-like experimental indie title from him, though. Usually, the great indie writers suck at mainstream comics because they abjectly refuse to respect the characters' long-standing established personalities. That's not an issue with indie work--especially creator-owned indie work.

Oh, well, okay. I guess I just misunderstood what you were saying earlier. I get that, totally.

 

[Anubis]

Yup.

Key difference.

Bendis is the poster boy for this kind of writing.

 

[Mystirious]

Warren Ellis is a writer who is a lot better when he's writing his own characters really. Like Bendis he isn't so good when he's writing existing characters

Oh yeah, he did do Marvel Team-Up, that was awesome.

Everything outside of MTU however was Meh to s**t.

Marvel Team Up was pretty fun

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I do? Okay, I'll take that.

It sounded like you do. You were talking about mainstream comics not being excused, and then you said Casanova excuses everything. Which sounded to me like you were equating Casanova with a mainstream comic. But maybe I read too much into it.

 

[Anubis]

His T-Bolts run was awesome.

And he got the characterizations right.

Moonstone, manipulative b***h you don't really know what she's thinking? Check.

Songbird and Radioactive Man, people who really embraced the heroic lifestyle and would do whatever they could to make sure the team didn't become Norman Osborne's personal kill squad? Check.

Osborne, Nutjob barely holding it together? Check.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Sounds like the Squadron Supreme.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I never read his Thunderbolts. I wasn't too interested in any of the characters, plus I was already wary of Ellis' record on established characters. I should get the trades at some point...

But Tony Stark was the one who said it Corp. While in his private bar. He was probably drunk and got it wrong

Thor is a forgiving guy so he will only ***** smack Tony once for his mistake

It'd be funny if Thor played it off with a comment about Hercules (who actually is a demigod). Plus, potential foreshadowing for a future movie plot (I hope).

 

[Mystirious]

Yup.

Key difference.

Bendis is the poster boy for this kind of writing.

This be the truth

The way he writes most of the Avengers makes me make the face

The only reason I'm reading his New Avengers right now is because I am in fangirl-y love with Victoria Hand. Who Bendis created and therefore does not suck at writing

 

[Tron Bonne]

It sounded like you do. You were talking about mainstream comics not being excused, and then you said Casanova excuses everything. Which sounded to me like you were equating Casanova with a mainstream comic. But maybe I read too much into it.

I didn't really mean it that way. Just more like it's his unlimited hall pass for anything bad he may write in the future, have written in the past, or is writing now. Maintream, indie, private for his eyes only work.