The Wrestling Thread Has More Hype Than WrestleMania XXIX - Part 91

[Kaleb]

in semi related news I've just seen that a UK betting shop lets you bet on wrestlemania matches..... how certain are we on outcomes boys?? spidey-dudes thinking he could make some easy money

Easy money.

 

[SpideyFan866]

Easy money.

Oh jeez.

We'll be here to comfort you if the unthinkable happens.

 

[Team Andino]

I think it's crazy that anyone with some inside knowledge could easily make some quick cash with these.

 

[The Sage]

Eh. I think the only one that's a given is Brock vs. HHH.

I think Punk vs. Taker and especially Rock vs. Cena II is unpredictable.

At most, I'd say its a 55/45 chance of a predictable outcome for either.

Punk/Taker is unpredictable? I don't know, they haven't done a good job of creating uncertainty, and with the way Punk's lead this feud, he almost has to lose.

Then again, HHH beat Booker T in an angle that was practically set up for him to lose. So who knows.

 

[Donnie Darko]

I would never bet against Undertaker at this point. I feel like it would've made so much sense for Orton to beat him years back, solidifying him again as the Legend Killer and propelling him even farther up the WWE ladder.

 

[X Knight]

if the Taker/Punk feud had been about "respect" and what it means to be "best in the world," then a case could be made for Punk actually winning and ending the streak. Doing that would instantly elevate Punk's status and "prove" that he is the best in the world.

However, by involving Bearer's passing and the Urn into the feud, it has devolved into nothing more than a personal quest for Undertaker to destroy Punk for defiling the name and memory of his friend/father/manager whatever.

Taker almost has to win in order to honor Bearer's memory.

 

[SpideyVille]

I really hope we see some kind of tribute from the Undertaker to the Urn and Paul Bearer if he wins.

 

[The Sage]

if the Taker/Punk feud had been about "respect" and what it means to be "best in the world," then a case could be made for Punk actually winning and ending the streak. Doing that would instantly elevate Punk's status and "prove" that he is the best in the world.

However, by involving Bearer's passing and the Urn into the feud, it has devolved into nothing more than a personal quest for Undertaker to destroy Punk for defiling the name and memory of his friend/father/manager whatever.

Taker almost has to win in order to honor Bearer's memory.

Exactly.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

In other words, they have ruined Wrestlemania before it has even happened.

 

[X Knight]

actually, if ( nay.....when ) Taker wins, dedicating the win to Bearer's memory could also serve as a legit "storyline" reason for Taker to retire.

Don't know how they'd do it kayfabe, but it almost feels like........with Paul Bearer gone, it's the right time for Taker to "go" too and retire, thus marking the end of an era and a long, storied career.

Like, dedicate this one final win to Bearer, then hang your hat up and ride off into the sunset.

Leave the streak intact and the legacy of the Undertaker will forever live on.

IDK....do something like.........after the match, Taker kneels down one last time with the Urn, does his classic Pose, the lights go off, and when they come on, it's just Taker's hat and the Urn in the middle of the ring. Something simple and symbolic like that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

actually, if ( nay.....when ) Taker wins, dedicating the win to Bearer's memory could also serve as a legit "storyline" reason for Taker to retire.

Don't know how they'd do it kayfabe, but it almost feels like........with Paul Bearer gone, it's the right time for Taker to "go" too and retire, thus marking the end of an era and a long, storied career.

He won't retire with WM 30 right there. It is right there.

 

[SpideyVille]

actually, if ( nay.....when ) Taker wins, dedicating the win to Bearer's memory could also serve as a legit "storyline" reason for Taker to retire.

Don't know how they'd do it kayfabe, but it almost feels like........with Paul Bearer gone, it's the right time for Taker to "go" too and retire, thus marking the end of an era and a long, storied career.

Yeah, personally I'd rather see Undertaker retire with the streak in tact, as opposed to losing and having that signify he's done.

And character-wise, it makes sense for him to go now, but I was watching some old matches on Netflix and was reminded of his biker gimmick and how that just didn't seem to fit with who the Undertaker was known to be and I still don't understand why they went in that direction to begin with.

 

[The Sage]

He won't retire with WM 30 right there. It is right there.

Pretty much. And if WM 30 is Taker's last match, I think that will be the main event.

Yeah, personally I'd rather see Undertaker retire with the streak in tact, as opposed to losing and having that signify he's done.

I don't know. They've tied the Streak to the Undertaker so much that it feels like the Streak to the end for Taker to be finished. He appears now only to continue it. Without, he has no reason.

 

[Kaleb]

Yeah, personally I'd rather see Undertaker retire with the streak in tact, as opposed to losing and having that signify he's done.

And character-wise, it makes sense for him to go now, but I was watching some old matches on Netflix and was reminded of his biker gimmick and how that just didn't seem to fit with who the Undertaker was known to be and I still don't understand why they went in that direction to begin with.

I was never a fan of ''midlife crisis'' Taker

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I was never a fan of ''midlife crisis'' Taker

I loved his heel run at that time. I thought it was one of his best runs in general.

Pretty much. And if WM 30 is Taker's last match, I think that will be the main event.



I don't know. They've tied the Streak to the Undertaker so much that it feels like the Streak to the end for Taker to be finished. He appears now only to continue it. Without, he has no reason.

I really think it depends on what Cena is doing, and if they can get a big "return". Say Austin does say yes to one last match.

 

[SpideyVille]

I don't know. They've tied the Streak to the Undertaker so much that it feels like the Streak to the end for Taker to be finished. He appears now only to continue it. Without, he has no reason.

Yeah, personally I think he's already done and the Streak is his only reason for being around. I think its obvious that he can't physically handle being in matches every few weeks, so he sticks to once a year at least just to stay relevant. But for me, after seeing him with his haircut after last year, he just doesn't seem the same and I just hope they give him a proper farewell. But like Donnie Darko said, it would make more sense for Orton to have been the one to end it since he was the Legend Killer, but now, I don't know if there's anyone who deserves to be the one who ends the streak.

I was never a fan of ''midlife crisis'' Taker

I dug it at first, but I hated when he cut his hair really short and was just an entirely different character. I take it that that was more of his real personality, but the Undertaker was iconic for a reason, and what they did with him in those years just didn't seem to make sense, especially since they brought him back to something closer to his original gimmick.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I feel like the Streak should end this year and Taker has one last Mania match next year.

He should have at least ONE mania match thats non streak.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I feel like the Streak should end this year and Taker has one last Mania match next year.

He should have at least ONE mania match thats non streak.

He had a few of those. The Streak didn't become a thing until years after it started.

Also, he can't lose this match now.

 

[Team Andino]

I feel like the Streak should end this year and Taker has one last Mania match next year.

He should have at least ONE mania match thats non streak.

The problem is that's all he even comes out for anymore is for the streak. I can't see the idea of him trying to redeem his loss being any better then if the streak will finally end. If he loses at Mania then that should be it for him. Otherwise watching him come back at this point and stage of his career is going to be quite underwhelming IMO.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The problem is that's all he even comes out for anymore is for the streak. I can't see the idea of him trying to redeem his loss being any better then if the streak will finally end. If he loses at Mania then that should be it for him. Otherwise watching him come back at this point and stage of his career is going to be quite underwhelming IMO.

Yeah, I agree. His matches at Mania mean so much because of the streak.

 

[The Sage]

The problem is that's all he even comes out for anymore is for the streak. I can't see the idea of him trying to redeem his loss being any better then if the streak will finally end. If he loses at Mania then that should be it for him. Otherwise watching him come back at this point and stage of his career is going to be quite underwhelming IMO.

Now, if the match this years ends in a draw, then Taker would definitely return next year, not wanting the Streak to be tarnished. 20-0-1 is not something he'd like.

 

[NDX]

Yeah, I agree. His matches at Mania mean so much because of the streak.

Taker challenges Punk one more time, to get his win back. If he loses, he never steps in a ring again as a wrestler.

 

[The Batman]

Taker wrestling a non streak match would be pointless. If the streak ends, so does Takers career.

And "Midlife Crisis" Taker is the best way to describe the ABA era. Taker completely robbed himself of the mystique and aura he had as the Deadman. And we didnt need a redneck with attitude when Stone Cold did that gimmick much better.

The best thing I can say about ABA Taker is that it made me realize how much I loved the Deadman gimmick, and its return at WM20 is still one of my favorite wrestling moments.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Taker is not going to lose

 

[Dr. Evil]

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