The Wrestling Thread Has More Hype Than WrestleMania XXIX - Part 91

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Would you rather see Rock vs Brock or Rock vs HHH? Rock and Trips used to work off each other so well.

Rock vs Triple H as I am sick of both them so if they wrestled each other none of the guys I like will be stuck jobbing to them.
 
According to PWInsider.com, several of the former WWE Divas contacted by WWE concerning a possible return to the company in time for WrestleMania may have been the ones responsible for Maria Kanellis not re-signing with the company.

The report notes that although no specific names were mentioned, one or more former WWE Divas contacted by WWE were upset with comments made by Kanellis back when she left WWE, and wanted her removed from any WrestleMania plans.
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Man...NONE of those broads should have enough clout to keep a past diva away. Thats whats wrong with some of these b*tches and shows they don't care about the business or get how it works. Great wrestlers could always put petty bullsh** aside to make money. That IS what its about in the end. No wonder some of em didn't last long or didn't get more over when they were there.

These broads blew a chance to make big money because they don't like Maria K for saying something (that might have been true)? Thats stupid...especialy the part about blowing a nice payday. Put it aside and make some money for a one off, girls. I'm sure some already did that as road beef but this time they'd get to end the night on their backs with their cloths on.

At least Maria is still in the business so what she says on it has SOME cred. Unlike some of these other girls who can't be found and just used wrestling as a stepping stone to release a fashion line or some sh**.

Thats what WWE gets for hiring models who don't care instead of wrestlers. They should have known some of em would be out the door soon. They've got no one to blame but themselves for the thin Diva roster.

I wish AJ got a REAL push. The one she deserved months ago when she got more over than any woman since Trish. She loves the business and if WWE had just used her right they wouldn't need some of the wannabe wrestlers so much.

With AJ...why did they NOT strike while the iron was hot? Another case of Vince putting his own ideas over business.


Originally Posted by Hunter Rider
Rock vs Triple H as I am sick of both them so if they wrestled each other none of the guys I like will be stuck jobbing to them.

When Barett got "Sheamus'd" by Triple H I didn't see the point at all. Not only did Triple H embaress the guy, who was IC champion, but it was in a blowoff kind of way. Didn't mean anything to build up a story. It didn't even need to be done but if they had to anyone could have been in that spot.

I'm almost afraid to see Triple H vs Barett even happen. Normally I'd think that kick was leading to H putting Barrett over down the road somehow but then I remember who we are talking about. The guy went over on Punk AND his buddy who cost Punk the WWE title for some reason. Even though he's a part timer.
 
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My guess is Kelly or Maryse. Those are two that WWE would want back even more. KK is also one of the ones who would feel the need to ask for use of her WWE name which has also been reported as sticking points for these same girls that couldn't come to deals to return. Melina is Melina's real name. Same is true for Eve Torres and even Maryse.
 
When Barett got "Sheamus'd" by Triple H I didn't see the point at all. Not only did Triple H embaress the guy, who was IC champion, but it was in a blowoff kind of way. Didn't mean anything to build up a story. It didn't even need to be done but if they had to anyone could have been in that spot.

I'm almost afraid to see Triple H vs Barett even happen. Normally I'd think that kick was leading to H putting Barrett over down the road somehow but then I remember who we are talking about. The guy went over on Punk AND his buddy who cost Punk the WWE title for some reason. Even though he's a part timer.

It reminded me of that time when he buried MVP and Shelton on the mic with his shooty insider comments, it served zero purpose other than him getting his jollies.

A feud with Triple H and Barrett on paper seems like sound booking but as you say it wont do anything for Barrett, hell we are talking about a guy who even needs to get a win over Brock Lesnar.

Yep, I've just noticed Hero's reaction even he can't believe Cesaro's strength.

His power is beastly.

hmm wonder who's pissed off at maria, $5 its something like melina she seems to have rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way and the right way


HIYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

It was the other way around, in her Youshoot interview she said that the idea that the Divas have to sleep with the boys to get a push is BS, and that lots of girls put it on a plate because they think it will get them ahead, she never did and was never pressured and it never hurt her push.
 
Some girls are just ho bags. I think if you've got truly great talent and the "right" looks you can do ok in the biz anyway.

I think the ones who sleep around to get to the top are the ones that know they are lacking somewhere. Politicking is probably more important but some of the ones who shack up with a big name probably don't even have to ask for a push. Creative does it anyway in some cases either because the girl deserves it, she has the look they want to push, or to keep her guy happy by keeping her happy. McCool was with Taker but she also had the look going for her. She couldn't talk for sh** but even that doesn't matter when WWE is selling image over substance.

But if Vince wants to push someone it doesn't matter if they give it away to the boys or not. He's gonna push that girl. In the end thats the deciding factor.

These days that and "the look" are what matter more than anything. In WWE its that glamorous modelesque look. Or even better an all American beauty queen type who has all those elements. Thats why KK, Maryse, and Eve got so much focus. They were girls WWE could use in promoting to the mainstream media and entertainment industry. Eve in particular was glamorous, attractive, intelligent, and articulate. Everything WWE would want to represent them on a world stage.
 
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Some girls are just ho bags. I think if you've got truly great talent and the "right" looks you can do ok in the biz anyway.

I think the ones who sleep around to get to the top are the ones that know they are lacking somewhere. Politicking is probably more important but some of the ones who shack up with a big name probably don't even have to ask for a push. Creative does it anyway in some cases either because the girl deserves it, she has the look they want to push, or to keep her guy happy by keeping her happy. McCool was with Taker but she also had the look going for her. She couldn't talk for sh** but even that doesn't matter when WWE is selling image over substance.

But if Vince wants to push someone it doesn't matter if they give it away to the boys or not. He's gonna push that girl. In the end thats the deciding factor.

These days that and "the look" are what matter more than anything. In WWE its that glamorous modelesque look. Or even better an all American beauty queen type who has all those elements. Thats why KK, Maryse, and Eve got so much focus. They were girls WWE could use in promoting to the mainstream media and entertainment industry. Eve in particular was glamorous, attractive, intelligent, and articulate. Everything WWE would want to represent them on a world stage.

Think there's any chance Stacy Kiebler comes back?
 
My guess is Kelly or Maryse. Those are two that WWE would want back even more. KK is also one of the ones who would feel the need to ask for use of her WWE name which has also been reported as sticking points for these same girls that couldn't come to deals to return. Melina is Melina's real name. Same is true for Eve Torres and even Maryse.

see maybe its just the fan in me but maria would be a much higher quality grab than either maryse or KK.

she can wrestle and is attractive enough for them to pimp out to all the magazines,red carpet interviews etc win win


i wonder has the whole playboy deal got something to do with it
 
It was the other way around, in her Youshoot interview she said that the idea that the Divas have to sleep with the boys to get a push is BS, and that lots of girls put it on a plate because they think it will get them ahead, she never did and was never pressured and it never hurt her push.

thats what im getting at mate, the fact she wouldn't **** all around her has obviously put her at odds with the beef that would, and we all know who queen beef was hence my joke
 
Originally Posted by Hunter Rider
It reminded me of that time when he buried MVP and Shelton on the mic with his shooty insider comments, it served zero purpose other than him getting his jollies.

A feud with Triple H and Barrett on paper seems like sound booking but as you say it wont do anything for Barrett, hell we are talking about a guy who even needs to get a win over Brock Lesnar.

That crap wit HHH and Barrett was nothing more than an attempt to make HHH look cool and funny..especially after mocking Lesnar and challenging him. My thing is...was it needed at all? Heck no. They threw it in there justo do it. HHH vs Lesnar has already sold itself. Embaressing your IC champion and making him look like a jackass is stupid. It didn't even get Barrett good heel heat.

Originally Posted by Pittman4Two
Think there's any chance Stacy Kiebler comes back?

For a one off or occasional guest appearance? Sure. There's always a chance. She was one of the more well known divas of her era and Stacy was never about the in ring stuff so much as she was about image. She still looks great too. I know WWE would LOVE to have her now. I mean she was just at the Oscars with George f***in Clooney a little while back.

Thing is WWE would need Stacy far more than she needs them as long as she's with a guy like Clooney. He gets her picture circulating and her name talked about more than WWE ever could. WWE would kill to have her back because of that even if they play it cool and pretend otherwise.

There's also history to remember. She DID want to come back to host Raw during the guest host era but they turned her down because she wasn't a big enough star back then. I bet they'd sing a different tune now. But I also doubt she has forgotten that. The ball is a bit more in her court. If she wanted to return for a small thing it could happen as long as there's no serious bad blood for anything.

If she showed up with Clooney they'd build the whole show around them and doing stupid backstage skits. I doubt he'd do that but if he did Vince would pee himself a little. Kevin Federline wasn't even a star on his own and they involved him with their top guy on Raw in a lame storyline.


Originally Posted by the_ultimate_evil
see maybe its just the fan in me but maria would be a much higher quality grab than either maryse or KK.

she can wrestle and is attractive enough for them to pimp out to all the magazines,red carpet interviews etc win win


i wonder has the whole playboy deal got something to do with it

More like the MAN in you or the normal guy who likes a good looking girl. Like I said before with WWE its image more than anything. They'd want a more WASPy mainstream girl like KK for that very reason. She appeals more to what they think the mainstream is and wants. The truth is guys would want to f** MOST of these girls. Doesn't matter if they are blond or brunette or 5'2" or 5'8." I think WWE has tunnel vision when it comes to their male audiences tastes and what they THINK they are. Guys might have a preference but they also like all types as long as they're hot. Hot is hot and redheads can still be scorching hot.

I'd go more for Maria over KK too because Maria has far more personality. Both are good looking but in the end charm and something going on upstairs would tip the scales. She's far more interesting. Even when doing her dumb act she did it a lot better than Kelly Kelly's naive airhead bit. There's something to be said for charisma and Maria had some.

I have to wonder if AJ's look and style has held her back now. She doesn't have the modelesque stature and she's not glamorous in the traditional sense. If Kelly Kelly had gotten over in the exact same way as AJ did I seriously wonder if WWE would have pushed her harder than AJ was and not bungled it. My gut tells me they would have done a far better job running with it.


thats what im getting at mate, the fact she wouldn't **** all around her has obviously put her at odds with the beef that would, and we all know who queen beef was hence my joke

I always thought of McCool as queen beef. As far as road beef goes she was at the top of the pecking order by virtue of who she was with. Nobody would dare f*** with her.

Cena liked the McJ roast beef sandwich.

Melina was more like the most popular affordable beef. The most ordered meal on the menu. The double cheeseburger of p****... and boy did that sandwich get passed around for a taste. I think some crumbs are still in Knox's beard.


Wait...does this mean Triple H was Stephanie's queen beef?

If theres a belt for that he should be hogging that motherf***** too.
 
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Dammit I might have to start following Hall on twitter

SCOTT HALL @SCOTTHALLNWO
Hey yo Big E were gonna need a urine sample

SCOTT HALL @SCOTTHALLNWO
Hey yo Ryback get in line behind Big E, urinalysis
 
Lol. Halls still got it. Even on twitter. Now that he's getting more sober and lucid I'm looking forward to some hilarious comments that aren't trainwreck/payback hiarious like Steiners tweets.

If Big E sticks himself anymore he's gonna accidentally moterboat himself. I can't even look at the guy without wondering "why?"
 
Would you rather see Rock vs Brock or Rock vs HHH? Rock and Trips used to work off each other so well.

Rock vs HHH in the Battle of Who Doesn't Have It Anymore and still think it's 2000? Could be fun.
 
I think Hall would be an interesting commentator. Hall and Nash as a team on raw commentary
 
- WWE is reportedly losing quite a bit of money on the 2013 Hall of Fame ceremony due to it being held at Madison Square Garden. Triple H is said to have campaigned heavily for the ceremony to be held there despite the cost because in addition to Bruno Sammartino, Mick Foley and Bob Backlund both have strong ties to the arena. Additionally, the company felt that it was important to have some part of WrestleMania at the arena since the event is taking place in the area.

Credit: Wrestling Obsever Newsletter


Read more at http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/278585/WWE-Losing-Money-on-WWE-Hall-of-Fame-This-Year.html
 
Sometimes it shouldn't always be about money first and foremost. Even before Bruno agreed to go into the HOF holding the ceremony at MSG was the right thing to do. With Bruno going in as headliner its a no brainer. Glad to see WWE knew the right call to make here.


Originally Posted by bullets
I think Hall would be an interesting commentator. Hall and Nash as a team on raw commentary

I remember everytime Nash did it it was pretty funny. The last time he did commentary in TNA was great. As long as he's not overproduced like they do in WWE he COULD end up being one of the great color comm guys.
 
Hall and Nash probably would not stand Vince McMahon yelling at them through a headset.
 
The only way I would tolerate a Diddy performance at Wrestlemania 29 is if he performed one of his songs alongside a hologram of Notorious BIG.
 

A promo like this has me slightly sold on the Punk/Taker match
 
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