The Wrestling Thread.....Has No Confidence - Part 34

[Dr. Evil]

I think Morrison would do well in TNA as long as he is kept away from Hulk Hogan.

 

[Heretic]

Love the over-exhaggeration and hyperbole in this post

Of course he will not have the prominence or the stardom else that he would in WWE, but to act as if the guy cannot go elsewhere and do well for himself is a joke.

As long as Morrison keeps his ego in check and doesn't piss of the wrong people (which was a big problem in WWE, mainly because of Melina), he has a chance to do very well.

If TNA can keep the momentum that they have been building in recent weeks as far as making new stars, than TNA might be a very good fit for him. Of course with TNA, they've had a horrible habit of dropping something good when they have it, but let's see how Prichard's new role works out for creative.

Personally I think AJ Styles vs. John Morrison is a fued waiting to happen given the barbs AJ has thrown towards Morrison.

TNA has momentum with building new stars??

You're talking about Robert Roode, right? You can't possibly be talking about Jay Lethal, Christopher Daniels, Crimson, Rob Terry or any of the others. They hotshotted Robert Roode into the main event with no build...like they did soooo many times before.

Besides, last weeks Impact was the lowest rated episode of the year...it's a lie to claim any kind of momentum when ratings are taking a pounding (I know, there's a million excuses why...Jersey Shore was on, or maybe the Game Show Network or Food Channel were stealing away viewers).

Where is the hyperbole in my statement? Does talent have a history of getting into BETTER shape when they are in TNA as opposed to WWE?

Heck, we all know that tomorrow WWE could decide that they can't live without him and sign him to a huge deal...so these reports mean little.

 

[Kaleb]

smackdown could be quite interesting tonight

Spoiler

Tonight, WWE is taping this week's editions of Smackdown and NXT from the American Airlines Center in Dallas, Texas. The arena website is listing this as a loaded SuperShow with the following being advertised:

-Alberto Del Rio vs. John Cena for the WWE Championship

-Mark Henry vs. Randy Orton for the World Championship

-A 41-man battle royal, which is advertised as the biggest battle royal in WWE history.

-WWE Hall of Famer Shawn Michaels makes his return to WWE TV, for a DX reunion with Triple H.

Also, the following talent from Raw is being listed to appear: John Cena, Alberto Del Rio, C.M. Punk, Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne, and Dolph Ziggler.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

are they still doing live smackdowns

 

[Superark]

TNA has momentum with building new stars??

You're talking about Robert Roode, right? You can't possibly be talking about Jay Lethal, Christopher Daniels, Crimson, Rob Terry or any of the others. They hotshotted Robert Roode into the main event with no build...like they did soooo many times before.

Besides, last weeks Impact was the lowest rated episode of the year...it's a lie to claim any kind of momentum when ratings are taking a pounding (I know, there's a million excuses why...Jersey Shore was on, or maybe the Game Show Network or Food Channel were stealing away viewers).

Where is the hyperbole in my statement? Does talent have a history of getting into BETTER shape when they are in TNA as opposed to WWE?

Heck, we all know that tomorrow WWE could decide that they can't live without him and sign him to a huge deal...so these reports mean little.

Do you have a reading comprhension problem? I never said TNA was gaining momentum in the ratings. I said they were building momentum in terms of making new stars.

What does TNA's past mistakes at building new stars have to do with their current direction now? Once again, I think you are having a hard time grasping the point, which was at the moment TNA has been doing a good job at making some new guys look strong. Let's see how Prichard does now that he has creative control. Hell I even acknowlegded that TNA could possible drop the ball as they have done before, but I guess you chose to ignore that statement.

Robert Roode was anything but hotshotted to the main event as it was clear from the beginning of the BFG tournament they were building something for him with his shoulder injury angle and coming back big. TNA has done an excellent job over the past month since he's won at making him look credible and Roode has been fantastic in the role.

And what talents have gone to TNA and gotten into physically worse looking shape other than Jeff Hardy? Elijah Burke looks great, Mickie looks slimmer, Matt Hardy and Kurt Angle, despite their drug problems, both got into better "looking" shape. And it's not as if Morrison has a known substance abuse problem that would suddenly cause him physical problems.

You're right in that all there reports could mean nothing and Morrison might re-sign with WWE tomorrow. My only point was Morrison could make a comfortable living elsewhere outside of WWE and have an important spot in another company, where it's in ROH, TNA, or Japan.

 

[Heretic]

I think ROH could really use Morrison. One of the down sides is that, before they debuted the new show, they should have signed someone who seemed like a fairly big deal. Personally, I would have signed MVP and made him champ just prior to the show debuting...because he was a WWE guy that almost everyone thought could have and maybe should have been pushed to the main event.

 

[Nightmare]

Why would they have the vengeance main event on smackdown?

 

[DBryan]

I'm not a fan of Battle Royals. They're over too quick.

 

[Pink Ranger]

A 41-man battle royal has the adult in me thinking "this is stupid" but the kid in me thinking "that's going to be the coolest thing ever."

 

[Heretic]

A 41 man battle royal...bigger than any Royal Rumble...that will probably last all of 14 minutes on free tv...just devalues the entire concept.

 

[NDX]

Why would they have the vengeance main event on smackdown?

Because the main event will most likely be Henry/Show.

 

[venom892]

One of those will obviously be the dark main event.Not all of that will happen on TV.

 

[Mister J]

smackdown could be quite interesting tonight

Spoiler

DX reunion

Even for one night only.

 

[Wheels]

I think ROH could really use Morrison. One of the down sides is that, before they debuted the new show, they should have signed someone who seemed like a fairly big deal. Personally, I would have signed MVP and made him champ just prior to the show debuting...because he was a WWE guy that almost everyone thought could have and maybe should have been pushed to the main event.

No way.

That would be same thing TNA gets criticised for all the time. Let a guy work his way up and don't hot shot him to the title.
You would make the ROH guys look like crap.

 

[venom892]

You know WWE is really classless not informing J.R. of the segment before it happened.In his hometown no less.

 

[Benstamania]

Brock Lesnar Comments On Whether He Will Ever Appear For WWE Again
By Daniel Pena
Oct 11, 2011 - 1:32:05 PM

Promoting his inclusion in THQ's WWE '12 video game, Brock Lesnar participated in an interview with IGN.com to discuss WWE related topics.

Lesnar explains why he agreed to be included in the game.

"It's one of those things where… it's part of my history. Without the WWE, I probably wouldn't be where I am today," he said via e-mail. "I wouldn't have the high visibility, I wouldn't have had the leverage to come into the UFC. I would have had to do it all on my own. I'm no idiot when I say that when I was with the WWE, the visibility from that company and what they did on a global network for 'Brock Lesnar' as a whole, put me on another level."

Being in WWE '12 begs the obvious question - would Lesnar ever consider returning to WWE programming?

"It would have to be under the right circumstances," he says. "I don't know if Mr. McMahon and I could come to the right circumstances. If it was good for me and good for him I think that we could do something. At the end of the day, my life, my character and my profession - I take them very seriously. At the end of the day, if it doesn't help me or my family out, and it doesn't make sense for me to do, then I don't do it. Everything would have to fall in the right place, but would I consider it? Absolutely."

The piece can be accessed here.

source: IGN.com

Taking the "never say never" approach. I'd love to see Brock back in the WWE.

 

[venom892]

I'm sure after he's done with UFC, He'll do a wrestlemania or two just for the payday.

 

[Metallo]

Brock Lesnar Expects To Wrestle One More Match For WWE

Posted by Daniel Pena on 10/11/2011

Wrestler turned mixed martial artist Brock Lesnar says in an interview with ESPN.com that he expects to wrestle one more match for WWE.

"I think I will. I think under the right circumstances I will," he responds to Jon Robinson's query regarding one final WWE match. "I think if Vince McMahon and I were able to sit down at the same dinner table and break some bread that we could come up with some kind of game plan. At the end of the day, I'm an ultimate fighter. That's who I am and that's who I'll always be. I was an entertainer but at the end of the day, I'm still as real as it gets. I think a lot of things have to fall in the right places for something like that to happen."

Lesnar is asked who he would like to wrestle of talent he never had a match with; he responds "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.

"Ironically it's probably the guy that walked out on me. The guy that took his ball and went home. A guy that I was supposed to face and I think that he was just plain downright scared to get in the ring with me because he was one of those guys that was on top and saw a huge threat in Brock Lesnar at the time. That's "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. I worked with everybody and anybody that was anybody there and if I came back, I think the guy that I would come back to fight is "Stone Cold" Steve Austin."

Rumors surfaced last year about Lesnar possibly facing The Undertaker at WrestleMania. He comments on how the match would have been like.

"I was a true wrestler. I was a Division I national champion. I came into the business wanting one thing and one thing only, and that was to be the champion, and I wasn't going to let anybody stand in my way. I think there was one guy that had a problem with that and that was Undertaker. If I were to have gotten in the ring with him I would have ripped his arm off and f------ beat him with it."

The full interview can be accessed here.

 

[NDX]

Tyson Tomko somehow survived this:

Source: Lords of Pain

Former WWE and TNA Wrestling talent Travis "Tyson" Tomko, 38, is currently being held in Florida's St Johns County Jail.

According to a police report on StAugustine.com, he was arrested this morning on a robbery charge. He was booked at 5:36 a.m. and given inmate number SJSO10MNI015725. No bond is listed.

Tomko last performed on a national stage for TNA Wrestling in 2010. He parted ways with the organization in August of that year.

--

Source: TMZ

Robbing a CVS Pharmacy on October 10th allegedly threatening to attack the pharmacist unless he forked over several bottles of Oxycodone.

The pharmacist claims he complied -- and Tomko escaped with 210 tablets of the powerful painkiller. According to the police report, obtained by TMZ, Tomko went to a nearby Chili's where he asked his waitress for a spoon. When the server brought him a teaspoon, he asked for a "deeper spoon" and when he got it, he took it to the men's room where he remained for 30 to 40 minutes.

Cops were eventually tipped off and when they arrived on the scene, one officer says Tomko had "needle marks and blood running down his arm" and had just flushed something down the toilet. Tomko was taken into custody -- and allegedly told police he has a "severe drug problem."

Cops say Tomko admitted he took the Oxycodone from CVS ... and injected 178 pills, which he crushed up and melted down ... but he swore he never threatened the pharmacist. Tomko was taken to a nearby hospital ... then transported to a nearby jail, where he was booked for robbery. He's currently behind bars -- bond was set at $7,500.

 

[Wheels]

I'd love to see Lesnar vs Cena now that Cena is a much better worker than he was during their first feud. Lesnar could say Cena is second best and the only reason he is the top guy is because Lesnar left.

 

[Dr. Evil]

There is only one reason to have a 41 man battle royal: Hornswoggle.

 

[DBryan]

If its to determine the number 1 contender, didn't Henry already give that away on Raw when he said he'd see Show at Vengeance?

 

[Heretic]

No way.

That would be same thing TNA gets criticised for all the time. Let a guy work his way up and don't hot shot him to the title.
You would make the ROH guys look like crap.

TNA put old guys who should retired in the world title picture...putting guys like MVP, Anderson, Shelton and Haas, Carlito, Jeff Hardy or a few others in the title pictures is hardly the same sin.

 

[Dr. Evil]

If its to determine the number 1 contender, didn't Henry already give that away on Raw when he said he'd see Show at Vengeance?

It's the WWE, logic is usually not a part of their vocab.

 

[Wheels]

TNA put old guys who should retired in the world title picture...putting guys like MVP, Anderson, Shelton and Haas, Carlito, Jeff Hardy or a few others in the title pictures is hardly the same sin.

When you hotshot a mid-carder from another company you're basically saying that company's mid-carders are better than you're main eventers. Make them work for it.