Xbox The Xbox One - Part 13

[X Knight]

Thanks. Hope it works out well.

sure.

I hope it works well, too. sounds like it has a lot of potential.

and I'm really curious to see just how much larger the X 4K patches will be.

 

[Iceman]

Can't wait to play a modern game optimised for 4K and to see how it looks on the system. Really not far away now!

 

[X Knight]

^ and I'm eager to hear your impressions about it, Iceman.

are you planning on getting the X right away when it releases?

are you going to trade in your S or hold onto it?

 

[Iceman]

^ and I'm eager to hear your impressions about it, Iceman.

are you planning on getting the X right away when it releases?

are you going to trade in your S or hold onto it?

Will get on Day 1 for sure.

I might sell an original Xbox to a friend. Will keep the S.

 

[X Knight]

Will get on Day 1 for sure.

I might sell an original Xbox to a friend. Will keep the S.

ah, great.

if you keep the S, then you can better compare what the games look like on the S vs the X.

I'm going to pay close attention to the reviews for the X. Beyond the obvious stuff, I'm interested in the "build quality" of the components and if it fixes the issues that I had in the past.

Namely, I want to know about the fan and if it's supposed to be whisper quiet. And, I want to know if the X will have a better/more stable WiFi adapter than the S.

if the X can fix those issues, and if the reviews and early adopters like yourself give it high marks, it may be enough to bring me back into the fold.

 

[Iceman]

ah, great.

if you keep the S, then you can better compare what the games look like on the S vs the X.

I'm going to pay close attention to the reviews for the X. Beyond the obvious stuff, I'm interested in the "build quality" of the components and if it fixes the issues that I had in the past.

Namely, I want to know about the fan and if it's supposed to be whisper quiet. And, I want to know if the X will have a better/more stable WiFi adapter than the S.

if the X can fix those issues, and if the reviews and early adopters like yourself give it high marks, it may be enough to bring me back into the fold.

Hope it fixes your issues. If they are common complaints then hopefully they would look into them.

Will definitely let you know how it compares to the S. (The S has totally been a great purchase for me btw).

 

[X Knight]

Hope it fixes your issues. If they are common complaints then hopefully they would look into them.

Will definitely let you know how it compares to the S. (The S has totally been a great purchase for me btw).

great, looking forward to it!

and I wish I could say I had your luck with the Xbox systems.

as for the networking issues I had with the S, I'm still not entirely sure if it was the S or something else on my network. I recently discovered another device on my network had been causing problems with my home network in general. so, I don't know.......

but, in hindsight, it was good I returned the S. For one, the fan noise was unacceptable and there was no excuse for that.

And also, with the newer, more powerful X model coming out in a few months, I would have had to exchange the S anyways.

so, hopefully I will finally get lucky with the X. I would like to finally get an Xbox that works properly......lol.

but until then, I'll let you test it out first.

 

[Iceman]

Yeah, fan noise is one thing I don't notice on any console as I have enough other loud devices on and also either have the sound system turned up or headset sound at night. Internet issues would piss me off but I only ever had them in the early 360 days.

 

[X Knight]

^ well, I don't have a sound system or headsets, so I had nothing to mask the fan noise.

just have my TV speakers. and with the volume up while playing a game or watching a movie, I could hear the constant tick, tick, tick from the fan.

and that was more than just a normal whirring fan noise.

hopefully neither that or the networking stuff will be issues with the X.

for a "premium" machine, I expect higher quality "premium" parts inside with little to no major issues.

and speaking of networking issues, I'm having some with my new standalone 4K player, too. It's inconsistent on connecting to the internet for updates, for example.

so, I really don't know if it's my home network that has issues or the devices themselves......lol.

maybe what I really need is a new ISP........lol.

 

[Iceman]

It's not the X1 in general, but your particular one might have an issue. But much more likely it's your own internet arrangements. With these consoles you know of every slight internet issue as you can get logged off from Live instantly. It almost never happens to me even though I'm logged in to Live for everything, during films, shows, sport on TV as well as games. It used to happen on 360 a lot though.

 

[X Knight]

It's not the X1 in general, but your particular one might have an issue. But much more likely it's your own internet arrangements. With these consoles you know of every slight internet issue as you can get logged off from Live instantly. It almost never happens to me even though I'm logged in to Live for everything, during films, shows, sport on TV as well as games. It used to happen on 360 a lot though.

so you think it's most likely something else on my home network that is causing interference on the Xbox and kicking me off of Live?

it's just weird that said interference doesn't kick me off of PSN, for example.

but maybe there's just something specific to Live that makes it more susceptible to that interference.

 

[Iceman]

so you think it's most likely something else on my home network that is causing interference on the Xbox and kicking me off of Live?

it's just weird that said interference doesn't kick me off of PSN, for example.

but maybe there's just something specific to Live that makes it more susceptible to that interference.

That's what I would have thought. It was a different story years ago but Xbox live is one of the most stable services I know of these days. I can't even remember what it looks like when you get signed out on X1 (I have 3). How individual devices connect and get approved and their connection strength can be a lot to do with your own settings and arrangements. And that is usually the reason if your device works and is something that has proven it can rigorously maintain X million amount of users around the world long term.

For eg if you (and your ISP) don't have the right ports open for a particular device it won't connect, and there are many different ways of connecting (that the ISP can change) that will get you a better signal with some devices and worse with others on your setup. I have connected 20 something devices to my own internet over the last 4 or so years and have been involved in hours of troubleshooting with my own ISPs. In the old days getting just one drop on XBL would mean being kicked out of a leaderboard Gears of Wars 2 Horde record attempt (which took up to 7 hours) and the whole team probably dying soon after so I had plenty of heated discussions with various ISPs trying to get it sorted out. t:

 

[Iceman]

From Bloomberg:

Microsoft Promotes Xbox Chief in Sign Games Are Big Deal Again

Microsoft Corp.’s head of Xbox,*Phil Spencer, got a promotion and a spot on Chief Executive Officer*Satya Nadella’s senior leadership team in a nod to the renewed importance of gaming at the software giant.
Spencer, now an executive vice president, previously reported to Windows division head Terry Myerson, who has a seat on Nadella’s council of chiefs. The group meets weekly and is comprised of the tier of executives directly below the CEO.

 

[X Knight]

That's what I would have thought. It was a different story years ago but Xbox live is one of the most stable services I know of these days. I can't even remember what it looks like when you get signed out on X1 (I have 3). How individual devices connect and get approved and their connection strength can be a lot to do with your own settings and arrangements. And that is usually the reason if your device works and is something that has proven it can rigorously maintain X million amount of users around the world long term.

For eg if you (and your ISP) don't have the right ports open for a particular device it won't connect, and there are many different ways of connecting (that the ISP can change) that will get you a better signal with some devices and worse with others on your setup. I have connected 20 something devices to my own internet over the last 4 or so years and have been involved in hours of troubleshooting with my own ISPs. In the old days getting just one drop on XBL would mean being kicked out of a leaderboard Gears of Wars 2 Horde record attempt (which took up to 7 hours) and the whole team probably dying soon after so I had plenty of heated discussions with various ISPs trying to get it sorted out. t:

thanks for the advice.

and yeah, I can imagine shoddy internet or frequent disconnections can have a major impact on MP sessions when you have other players depending on you.

From Bloomberg:

great news.

wonder if Spencer will remain head of Xbox or will someone else take that role.

 

[Iceman]

thanks for the advice.

and yeah, I can imagine shoddy internet or frequent disconnections can have a major impact on MP sessions when you have other players depending on you.

Might be an idea (if you get the X) to call up the ISP before you set it up and ask them for the best possible set of parameters to use etc to get optimal performance. For me it made a lot of difference after originally not even being able to connect to Live at all for the first couple of years I had the 360. t:

great news.

wonder if Spencer will remain head of Xbox or will someone else take that role.

Yes. This is a great sign as it was looking like Microsoft were backing off from their games division a while back. Hopefully he either is still Head of Xbox or has a big say (I imagine that would be the minimum).

 

[X Knight]

Might be an idea (if you get the X) to call up the ISP before you set it up and ask them for the best possible set of parameters to use etc to get optimal performance. For me it made a lot of difference after originally not even being able to connect to Live at all for the first couple of years I had the 360. t:


Yes. This is a great sign as it was looking like Microsoft were backing off from their games division a while back. Hopefully he either is still Head of Xbox or has a big say (I imagine that would be the minimum).

thanks. if I do get the X and if it still has the same wifi/disconnect problem, I'll contact my ISP and do as you say.

I'm also looking at other devices that can maximize and boost the coverage of my home wifi. like this device:

https://eero.com/

I've contacted their support and they said it might be able to help with frequent disconnects with a console like Xbox.

oh, and yeah, I hope Spencer still has involvement with Xbox. it would be a shame if they lost him. though, now that he's on the MS leadership team, maybe he can wield more influence on behalf of the Xbox division from that position.

 

[Iceman]

thanks. if I do get the X and if it still has the same wifi/disconnect problem, I'll contact my ISP and do as you say.

I'm also looking at other devices that can maximize and boost the coverage of my home wifi. like this device:

https://eero.com/

I've contacted their support and they said it might be able to help with frequent disconnects with a console like Xbox.

oh, and yeah, I hope Spencer still has involvement with Xbox. it would be a shame if they lost him. though, now that he's on the MS leadership team, maybe he can wield more influence on behalf of the Xbox division from that position.

Your ISP should be able to guarantee a healthy connection to a device as widespread as a Playstation or Xbox. That should be part of their basic service standards, Many gamers are Xbox gamers. What are they supposed to do if they have a connection like yours on their Xbox? Sort it out lol. It can definitely be done if you pressure your ISP. There are loads of different things they can try. If there was any underlying major problem with XBL or PSN the service wouldn't be viable and it would cost those companies a fortune. Like I said earlier, before I pressured them I just had to go without any Live connection at all for the first 2 years. They don't voluntarily fix things of their own accord.

Yeah he's passionate about Xbox and knows it can succeed and what it takes for it to succeed. Will be interesting to know how exactly this move will work.

 

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[Iceman]

X1X available to preorder finally over here! Still can't access the Project Scorpio edition though. Just go to decide where to get it from.

 

[X Knight]

X1X available to preorder finally over here! Still can't access the Project Scorpio edition though. Just go to decide where to get it from.

good luck! t:

hope you can snag an X pre-order. even better if you can get the Scorpio edition.

 

[Iceman]

good luck! t:

hope you can snag an X pre-order. even better if you can get the Scorpio edition.

I don't know when it's going to be available but I'll wait a few days to see if any news on it.

I'm going to sell my 2 original X1s too and just keep my S.

 

[X Knight]

Your ISP should be able to guarantee a healthy connection to a device as widespread as a Playstation or Xbox. That should be part of their basic service standards, Many gamers are Xbox gamers. What are they supposed to do if they have a connection like yours on their Xbox? Sort it out lol. It can definitely be done if you pressure your ISP. There are loads of different things they can try. If there was any underlying major problem with XBL or PSN the service wouldn't be viable and it would cost those companies a fortune. Like I said earlier, before I pressured them I just had to go without any Live connection at all for the first 2 years. They don't voluntarily fix things of their own accord.

Yeah he's passionate about Xbox and knows it can succeed and what it takes for it to succeed. Will be interesting to know how exactly this move will work.

true. that's a good point.

even though I've read about other users having similar wifi problems with their Xbox ( especially the S ), if the problem was truly widespread with Live itself, there would be widespread reporting of that problem on IGN, other game sites, etc. There would also be mass failure/return rates like they had with RROD on the early 360 models.

and none of that has happened, as far as I know.

that still doesn't excuse the noisy, rattling fan on my last S, but in terms of the networking issues, I still feel it has to be something on my own home network, which I am still having issues with.

 

[Iceman]

true. that's a good point.

even though I've read about other users having similar wifi problems with their Xbox ( especially the S ), if the problem was truly widespread with Live itself, there would be widespread reporting of that problem on IGN, other game sites, etc. There would also be mass failure/return rates like they had with RROD on the early 360 models.

and none of that has happened, as far as I know.

that still doesn't excuse the noisy, rattling fan on my last S, but in terms of the networking issues, I still feel it has to be something on my own home network, which I am still having issues with.

I don't know if the fans happen to make a lot of noise as default on these machines. I know my iMac makes a noise like a jet engine and as that one is in my bedroom and I sometimes use it at night, it DOES bother me. Aside from that it's always been a non issue to me on all other devices due to the volume I listen to films and games at (and otherwise I'm using the headset). They went a bit over the top on cooling on the original X1 to make 100% sure there would be no RROD repeat but I thought they would have found a nice balance by the time of the S. Will let you know how much noise my X makes anyway when I set it up. Only about 50 days to go!!

 

[X Knight]

I don't know if the fans happen to make a lot of noise as default on these machines. I know my iMac makes a noise like a jet engine and as that one is in my bedroom and I sometimes use it at night, it DOES bother me. Aside from that it's always been a non issue to me on all other devices due to the volume I listen to films and games at (and otherwise I'm using the headset). They went a bit over the top on cooling on the original X1 to make 100% sure there would be no RROD repeat but I thought they would have found a nice balance by the time of the S. Will let you know how much noise my X makes anyway when I set it up. Only about 50 days to go!!

thanks. I'm looking forward to your hands-on impressions of the X.

I hope the X with its liquid/vapor cooling setup and premium parts is whisper quiet.

I can tolerate "jet engine" fan noise as long as it's not constant and permanent. My Pro sometimes kicks into jet engine mode during certain games or certain parts of games. But then it goes back to being whisper quiet.

My 360, if I recall, had a more constant jet engine noise.

 

[X Knight]

I don't know when it's going to be available but I'll wait a few days to see if any news on it.

I'm going to sell my 2 original X1s too and just keep my S.

sounds like a good plan.

selling your 2 original X1s can help finance the X.

and I'm sure you don't need 4 X1s.