Thor: Ragnarok The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 1

[Gamma Goliath]

A little late on that one bud

 

[bubbadoom]

Don't see how we'd any odin action, seeing how he's missing and all. Lol

I wonder how they'll handle the budget/vfx on this. With hulk included i cant help but to think they'll get ilm to do tht portion of the film.

I assume the Odin MIA story line will be resolved in this film in time for Odin to lend a hand in saving Asgard...

 

[First Avenger]

A little late on that one bud

When was it posted?

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I hope Marvel doesn't lose sight of this being a Thor movie about Ragnarok, which is "the end of all things". I worry slightly Hulk will take away from this.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

When was it posted?

Its the same interview that was posted a few days back.

 

[Mjölnir]

I hope Marvel doesn't lose sight of this being a Thor movie about Ragnarok, which is "the end of all things". I worry slightly Hulk will take away from this.

Given how clear they've been on that Civil War is a Captain America story I'm not worried since that movie has far more characters that could overshadow the main protagonist. Of course if CW comes out and it doesn't feel like a Cap movie, then I will start to worry a bit, but not until that comes to pass.

 

[First Avenger]

Its the same interview that was posted a few days back.

But USA today posted it a few hours before I posted it here. I don't remember reading about Ruffalo talking to Waititi.

 

[Thors Day]

Yeah some people confuse a character with the actor. My dislike of the character of Jane has nothing to do with Portman, I love Natalie Portman as an actress.

My dislike stems more from the writing, and while Portman and Hemsworth have good chemistry, I feel like the love story between them was too rushed...Thor and Jane go from attraction to love too quickly. I mean Thor get's banished, spends a few days on earth... and this guy whose been around for hundreds of years, was worshiped in mythology as a God, and has probably romanced hundreds of women...suddenly get's his head turned by some human woman to the extent that he becomes a big sofie?

All over the course of a few days?

I don't buy it...I mean I enjoyed the film (both films) for the most part, but Thor and Jane just moved too quickly for me. I would have preferred it if they'd kept the attraction between them as just attraction with the potential for something more, and slowly morphed it into love over the course of a few films.

I mean Thor could have gotten humbled by just making friends with Jane and company, it didn't have to be some epic 'love story' that turned him humble.

And Jane is just not given enough to do, she's a rather one dimensional scientist in a whole universe full of scientists. What about her makes her stand out other then being Thor's love interest? We really don't know much about her. I hate comparisons but in my mind I can't help but think about Tony and Pepper whose love story felt much more real and believable then Thor and Jane's. And as a whole Pepper just felt like much more of a real (and likable) character then Jane.

Again this is all just my opinion, I enjoy the Thor films for the most part, but I'm sort of 'meh' with Jane, but not to the extent that she ruins the films. I just wish she could have been handled better as Portman is a great actress who can bring so much more to a character if given great material to work with.

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I completely agree, and that's my biggest problem with it all as well.
And when it comes to the focus of their relationship itself, it's all very boring to me.
I've heard other people go on about how Thor fell for her because he saw her passion and dedication, and that's all very sweet and all...but still a yawn. ¯\_(&#12484_/¯
We'll see what happens next movie.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I assume the Odin MIA story line will be resolved in this film in time for Odin to lend a hand in saving Asgard...

Unless he really is dead. Perhaps Loki's big plan involves releasing a force (Surter) to "kill Odin" and then have Loki come in to save the day and become king. He whisks Thor and Hulk away so they can't interfere. Things of course get out of hand, and the heroes make it back from their alien world seemingly in time to save Asgard, but it's ultimatly too late. While Surter is defeated, Asgard is in shambles, forcing Thor to stay as King, keeping him away from the Avengers until Infinity War Part 2.

 

[bubbadoom]

Unless he really is dead. Perhaps Loki's big plan involves releasing a force (Surter) to "kill Odin" and then have Loki come in to save the day and become king. He whisks Thor and Hulk away so they can't interfere. Things of course get out of hand, and the heroes make it back from their alien world seemingly in time to save Asgard, but it's ultimatly too late. While Surter is defeated, Asgard is in shambles, forcing Thor to stay as King, keeping him away from the Avengers until Infinity War Part 2.

I can not imagine any film maker would kill off such a major character [and actor] off camera - some good story ideas - guess we will know in two short years...

 

[Mjölnir]

I can not imagine any film maker would kill off such a major character [and actor] off camera - some good story ideas - guess we will know in two short years...

That, and the fact that killing Odin goes completely against Loki's character in the MCU this far.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

Is Vision going to be in this movie? Kind of has to doesn't he?

 

[Mjölnir]

Why does he have to be a part of Ragnarok?

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

Why does he have to be a part of Ragnarok?

Well I guess he doesn't have to... If Ragnarok ties into Infinity Gauntlet he should be with the mind stone. Also, maybe he goes with Hulk... I just can't imagine he'll stay Earthbound after Civil War. Seems likely that he ends up involved with Ragnarok.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Visions role with the stone likely won't play a part till the infinity war imo.

 

[CaptainWagner]

That, and the fact that killing Odin goes completely against Loki's character in the MCU this far.

I don't know, the vibe I got in TDW was that he only showed respect for Odin and spared him during the original film because of Frigga. With her dead, I don't see anything stopping him from finally disposing of his hated stepfather.

 

[terry78]

He doesn't hate Odin, he subconsciously always craved his approval. I doubt he's dead, but just tucked away. Like most despots its always a "daddy didn't love me" deal.

 

[BoredGuy]

Yeah if anything Loki has shown a lot more hatred towards Thor thus far than he has Odin

 

[Zoom]

Visions role with the stone likely won't play a part till the infinity war imo.

Yeah, I think so. Maybe he'll get a mention on Ragnarok.

 

[Mjölnir]

Well I guess he doesn't have to... If Ragnarok ties into Infinity Gauntlet he should be with the mind stone. Also, maybe he goes with Hulk... I just can't imagine he'll stay Earthbound after Civil War. Seems likely that he ends up involved with Ragnarok.

I don't think Ragnarok will be about the Infinity Gauntlet. At most I think another stone might appear, and Thanos might get the tesseract. I think Vision's relevance will come in Infinity War when it comes to his stone.

 

[Mjölnir]

I don't know, the vibe I got in TDW was that he only showed respect for Odin and spared him during the original film because of Frigga. With her dead, I don't see anything stopping him from finally disposing of his hated stepfather.

Pretty much all that Loki has done has been to get Odin's approval, other than seeking revenge for Frigga. Any hate he has towards Odin is rooted in that he loves him even more and craves his attention, which he feels is all towards Thor (whom he also loves deep down).

 

[CaptainWagner]

You all made good points. They've written themselves into a corner where Odin doesn't really have a place, but he's not dead, and to bring him back and immediatly kill him off would be awkward. So maybe a co-conspirator with Loki (such as Enchantress) kills Odin because he's a liability. Loki doesn't take this well and that's when the Ragnarok hits the fan.

 

[terry78]

Frigga's death hit him hard because he feels she was the only one in Asgard to ever really like him for what he was and never had any ill will.

 

[TheVision]

I really hope Ragnarok is the Thor film we want/deserve and not another mess like TDW. I want it to be like TWS but for Thor.

 

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