Thor story arc

[WildcatNC]

That scene (finding the hammer) shows up at the end of Iron Man 2 because it was an add on/ extra scene. We don't really know where in the timeline it actually occurred, though. It very well could have taken place shortly after Coulson leaves Stark, but before things with Whiplash wrapped up.

I'm positive thats the case. If it was important enough to drag him away from babysitting Stark then he would have got right out there to assess the situation. He was probably out there the next day.

 

[BigThor]

I think they kept the frost giants a little smaller so the destroyer would be that much more imposing.
But in the scene where Thor threw the hammer in the trailer, the giant he hit looks pretty damn big

Yeah that giant was big, I think people are over exaggerating the "smallness" of the Frost Giants. I wish they were bigger but 8ft-9ft is hardly "normal size".

Yeah I think they scaled the giants down because of The Destroyer, but I still hope their are a few "mega-sized" frost giants or I hope they can atleast grow

 

[BigThor]

Well, it could just be like the books, and each hero is just not available all the time. ie: When the FF faced Galactus the first time round Spider-Man, the Avengers etc, never showed up.

Same logic can apply here. Destroyer shows up, and Stark is simply busy elsewhere.

True, but I would love to have seen Iron Man fight The Destroyer at some point.

 

[Still A ThorFan]

Probably going to be Asgard, earth, Asgard. In the end he obviously battles Loki. So the battle with the Destroyer will be before that during the middle of the movie, or first part of the end.

Maybe the middle of the film when he is on earth will be all about him finding himself, meanwhile in Asgard Loki is having the time of his life. So they might even go back and forth. Damn I hope its over 2hrs.

 

[BigThor]

Probably going to be Asgard, earth, Asgard. In the end he obviously battles Loki. So the battle with the Destroyer will be before that during the middle of the movie, or first part of the end.

Maybe the middle of the film when he is on earth will be all about him finding himself, meanwhile in Asgard Loki is having the time of his life. So they might even go back and forth. Damn I hope its over 2hrs.

It has to be over 2 hrs

 

[WildcatNC]

It has to be over 2 hrs

I hope its as long as they thought it needed to be to tell the story well.

If they have to cut it down for a theater release i'm cool with it, just give me a directors cut version with all of it in there.

 

[BigThor]

I hope its as long as they thought it needed to be to tell the story well.

If they have to cut it down for a theater release i'm cool with it, just give me a directors cut version with all of it in there.

Yep, with extended fight scenes and all

 

[Kryptonian Warrior]

I have never really been into THOR, so my knowledge is very basic at best. I have a question about the Mjolnir....Does it have unlimited power or something? Apparently it can open up portals to other places as well? I'm just trying to get a grip on what kind of power it possesses.

 

[BigThor]

I have never really been into THOR, so my knowledge is very basic at best. I have a question about the Mjolnir....Does it have unlimited power or something? Apparently it can open up portals to other places as well? I'm just trying to get a grip on what kind of power it possesses.

The war-hammer Mjolnir: Thor wields Mjolnir, a hammer forged from uru metal. Mjolnir itself is already extremely durable like the Earth metal Adamantium or the Olympian metal Adamantine, and combined with the various enchantments placed upon it by Odin, is for all intents and purposes, indestructible. It has survived heat as extreme as the heart of the Sun, blasts powerful enough to destroy planets, and it has contained energy sufficient enough to destroy an entire Galaxy. Mjolnir also grants Thor countless mystical attributes and powers such as manipulation of the fundamental forces of the Universe such as the electromagnetic spectrum[44], gravity[45] etc. A few other examples of the countless abilities Thor has shown with Mjolnir are:

• Weather Control: Mjolnir grants Thor the ability to command the powers of the storm, causing rain, thunder and lightning although he cannot control artificial weather. He can create giant raging electrical storms complete with thunder, lightning, hurricane-force winds, tornadoes, blizzards, tidal waves, exploding volcanoes, earthquakes and torrential rains across entire planets at a moment's notice. He can also create any of these phenomena individually. Another aspect of this power allows him to stop any of these weather conditions instantly as well. Thor can create storms on a planetary wide scale or larger if needed, and is not limited to the normal limits of Mother Nature and can go beyond and defy what natural weather can do such as creating rain in space where there is no atmosphere. Thor's ability to control and create storms extends to any and all storms as he has been shown to control and create raging temporal storms in time, create Solar Flares, powerful stellar winds in space and so on. Thor's ability to control the elements and storm are so absolute that even a powerful weather manipulator such as Storm was easily overpowered by his ability to control the weather and easily defeated[46]. Thor can also channel the storm's fury, and magnify it into extremely powerful energy blasts capable of destroying objects of high durability, such as Adamantium etc. Considering that Thor's ability to control the weather is so great, he is not affected by certain limitations, restrictions, and environmental conditions.

• Resurrection: While channeling his power through Mjolnir, Thor was able to resurrect a man he had wrongly killed.[11]

• Alpha Particles: Thor's hammer can harness Alpha Particles from the atmosphere and could use it to atomize any weaponry.[47]

• Negation of Mystic Energy: He used this ability on the Juggernaut himself to negate the mystical energies that grant him his mystical invulnerability, allowing him to defeat the Juggernaut in combat.[48]. Mjolnir can also detect and destroy illusions casted from even the most powerful Gods, Demons, Omega-level mutant psionics, and very powerful sorcerers and mystics.

• Cosmic Energy: Mjolnir allows Thor to access, generate, manipulate, and control Cosmic Energy to an unknown limit for a variety of purposes.[49]

• Matter Manipulation: This ability allows Thor to manipulate matter from a molecular level to a vast scale, which allows him to create other configurations and even allows him to transmute the elements themselves. This ability was evident when he transmuted the Absorbing Man's wood and iron body to the gas helium.[50]

• Thermo-blast: Thor has the ability to produce a Universe shaking thermo-blast capable of decimating even entire planets and beings as powerful as Ego the living planet.[51]

• Electromagnetic Spectrum Manipulation: Mjolnir allows Thor to generate, manipulate, and control the entire electromagnetic spectrum for a variety of purposes and effects such as heat, light, gravity, electrical, magnetic, kinetic, acoustic/ultrasonic and various radiation & energies such as UV, infrared, X-Ray, Gamma, and Cosmic energy.

• Invisibility and Intangibility: Thor can turn himself or others, using Mjolnir, completely intangible and/or invisible[52]. An offshoot of this ability is that Thor can use Mjolnir to completely disrupt the phasing abilities of super humans such as the Vision, Shadowcat etc.[53]

• Barriers: With Mjolnir, Thor is capable of creating powerful barriers, force fields and vortexes that are impenetrable. These vortexes and barriers are so immensely durable that Thor was able to completely contain the explosion generated by a life bomb, which is so powerful it would have completely destroyed a fifth of the Marvel Universe, without the vortex even faltering, meaning that Thor literally contained a blast that is capable of annihilating millions upon millions of Galaxies[54].

• Energy Absorption: Thor is able to use Mjolnir to absorb any energy blasts directed towards him as means of attack. Once the energy is absorbed, Thor can redirect it back towards the source and/or use it as a weapon of his own. Thor has been able to reflect the vast and hazardous amounts of energy being emitted by the biological weapon implanted within the Wasp's body by the Skrulls back at her while all of Earth's other super humans were helpless. Thor's ability to absorb energy is so powerful he managed to absorb, contain and redirect the entire energy of the Null Bomb, which was powerful enough to destroy the entire Galaxy[55].

• God Blast: Thor is capable of channeling different amounts of his godly energies through Mjolnir for a single massive blast known as the God Blast. His godly energy is so vast and powerful, that even when reinforced with the Belt of Strength, which should double Mjolnir's fortification and durability, when Thor channeled his godly energies into Mjolnir to destroy the Brain Dome of the mighty Celestial Exitar, the hammer shattered from the amount of power Thor channeled[20] The God Blast is so immensely powerful and destructive that it has proven capable of destroying beings as large and as powerful as the Midgard Serpent and even causing such a great degree of damage to a being such as Galactus that he was forced to flee for his life. Thor has used this ability only a few times.

• Anti-Force: Thor is capable of producing an indescribably powerful blast known as the Anti-Force which is capable of annihilating entire planets. This blast is so powerful that with just a single emission, Thor was capable of putting down and seemingly killing the powerful entity known as Mangog himself.

• Transmigration of Souls: Thor's hammer has the ability to assist/escort souls through transmigration to the afterlife[56].

• Flight: Thor is capable of hurling Mjolnir with great force and, by holding onto the leather thong, is capable of flying through the air at tremendous speeds. While in an Earth-like atmosphere, Thor generally flies at roughly the Speed of Sound, roughly 770 miles per hour. However, he is capable of achieving speeds far faster than light. He can use the winds to hover and has shown the ability to fly without the aid of Mjolnir.

• Teleportation: By grasping Mjolnir by the leather thong and rapidly swirling it, Thor can channel energies for the purpose of opening gateways which he and others can pass through. He can open gateways which allow him to travel across locations no matter how great the distance within moments or even across entire dimensions, as he does when he travels from Asgard to Earth and vice-versa. He formerly possessed the ability to travel through time, but the temporal energies of the hammer were drained when Immortus asked Thor to use his hammer to save the planet Phantus and bring it back out of limbo and into the space-time continuum[29].

• Mystical Link: Mjolnir obeys Thor’s commands as though it were alive, and if Thor’s will is strong enough, the hammer can pass through nearly any barrier to reach him should he so desire; Mjolnir will even carve its way through the very center of entire planets to get back to Thor[57]. Mjolnir can also transform Thor into his civilian guises. When Thor is a civilian, the hammer most often becomes an old wooden cane. While employing a mortal guise, Thor would transform back into his mortal form if he was separated from Mjolnir for more than 60 seconds. The 60 second enchantment no longer applies.

• Worthiness Enchantment: This enchantment surrounding Mjolnir prevents it from being wielded by anyone save those who have been found worthy. Thus far, this includes Thor, the Awesome Android, Odin, Tiwaz, Red Norvell, Beta Ray Bill, Bor and Captain America. To anyone else, Mjolnir cannot be lifted from the ground nor wrested from Thor’s grip.

 

[Kryptonian Warrior]

WOW!! Thanks for that! So yeah, it's powers are pretty much unlimited. So would it be a fair assumption to say that THOR is THE most powerful being in the MARVEL Universe? I would think so. What sucks is that they won't even touch the unlimited amount of power that it possesses in the movie, but I am assuming of course. Could you imagine seeing some of the things that it can do on the big screen? My goodness, that would be so amazingly EPIC!!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Keep in mind that some of that stuff hasn't been seen for a while. Hell, some of it hasn't been seen since the '60s. Lately, creators have been limiting Mjolnir to just energy/lightning blasts, deflecting (rather than absorbing) energy, flight, returning when thrown, and portals. I might be forgetting one or two exceptions, but those are what you're likeliest to see if you pick up any Thor comic from the '07 relaunch on.

Also, minor note on the worthiness blurb: The Awesome Android and Red Norvell aren't worthy. The Awesome Android is an automaton, which the hammer's magic doesn't work on--they can lift it because they're not subject to the worthiness enchantment, but they similarly can't actually use any of its powers. They're basically exempt from all of Mjolnir's magic. Red Norvell, on the other hand, is a human whom Odin set up to die in Thor's place during what Odin believed was a looming Ragnarok. He was given the mystical gauntlets Thor occasionally wears to aid him in controlling Mjolnir when he's using some of its most powerful attacks (they'd pretty much shred his hands otherwise because they're so powerful). Those allowed him to lift Mjolnir, not his being worthy of it. If anyone qualified as totally not worthy of Mjolnir, it was Red Norvell when he actually wielded it. He became a decent guy later on, though.

 

[BigThor]

WOW!! Thanks for that! So yeah, it's powers are pretty much unlimited. So would it be a fair assumption to say that THOR is THE most powerful being in the MARVEL Universe? I would think so. What sucks is that they won't even touch the unlimited amount of power that it possesses in the movie, but I am assuming of course. Could you imagine seeing some of the things that it can do on the big screen? My goodness, that would be so amazingly EPIC!!

He's ONE of the most powerful "heroes" in the Marvel Universe. Idk about most powerful "being"

 

[Vartha]

A tiny little add about URU metal Mjolnir's made of. ALL Asgardian weapons made of Uru return to their owner. Sif has a set of Arrows for example that return to her after use.

 

[BigThor]

A tiny little add about URU metal Mjolnir's made of. ALL Asgardian weapons made of Uru return to their owner. Sif has a set of Arrows for example that return to her after use.

True, I wonder how they managed to leave that off the list

 

[Vartha]

Marvel does that every now and then. Some of the people there deny alot of the stories like for example, many say Blood Oath didn't happen because within it Thor uses weather WITHOUT Mjolnir and it's also mentioned by the Warriors Three that as a child Thor had nightmares causing storms.

 

[BigThor]

Marvel does that every now and then. Some of the people there deny alot of the stories like for example, many say Blood Oath didn't happen because within it Thor uses weather WITHOUT Mjolnir and it's also mentioned by the Warriors Three that as a child Thor had nightmares causing storms.

I always wondered if Thor could manipulate the weather without Mjolnir

 

[Vartha]

That's the big argument. Even in Tales of Asgard it really wasn't clear if Thor was BORN with the weather control or not.
I'm one that say he was born with them. Mjolnir is a tool to Focus those powers.

 

[BigThor]

That's the big argument. Even in Tales of Asgard it really wasn't clear if Thor was BORN with the weather control or not.
I'm one that say he was born with them. Mjolnir is a tool to Focus those powers.

Tales of Asgard? Are you talking about the animated movie?

Yeah, I'm also leaning towards Thor using Mjolnir to focus those powers

 

[TikkiEXX]

He's ONE of the most powerful "heroes" in the Marvel Universe. Idk about most powerful "being"

yeah there are some INSANELY powerful beings in the Marvel U. mostly the Cosmic guys. but The Pheonix is also a beast as far as power goes.

 

[Vartha]

Tales of Asgard? Are you talking about the animated movie?

Yeah, I'm also leaning towards Thor using Mjolnir to focus those powers

There were stories by Stan and Kirby in the back of the early Thor books called Tales of Asgard of a younger Thor. They were also reprinted recently and now in Trade paper back. The animated movie is based on both Tales of Asgard and Son of Asgard stories of Thor's childhood.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's a pretty confusing subject. Thor certainly has controlled the weather without Mjolnir over the years, but he didn't seem to have any mastery of weather as a child. Still, it could've just been that his weather control hadn't developed yet--the Asgardian equivalent of a prepubescent mutant, basically--or maybe Odin magically granted him that power as some kind of gift or birthright. Balder, the god of light, only learned to generate light and heat, seemingly out of nowhere, well into adulthood. Thor's weather powers could've similarly developed later. The main problem is that Thor doesn't really rely on his weather control for much, so people don't really get into specifics with it. He's got far more effective and straightforward powers to use instead. Why bother summoning a massive thunderstorm when you can split mountains with a single punch? His weather control is generally treated as a secondary power set, or just a natural byproduct of his being the god of thunder--sometimes artists depict storms just happening when Thor uses any of his powers or gets angry or whatever.

I'm definitely of the camp that believes he can control the weather all on his own, though.

 

[BigThor]

It's a pretty confusing subject. Thor certainly has controlled the weather without Mjolnir over the years, but he didn't seem to have any mastery of weather as a child. Still, it could've just been that his weather control hadn't developed yet--the Asgardian equivalent of a prepubescent mutant, basically--or maybe Odin magically granted him that power as some kind of gift or birthright. Balder, the god of light, only learned to generate light and heat, seemingly out of nowhere, well into adulthood. Thor's weather powers could've similarly developed later. The main problem is that Thor doesn't really rely on his weather control for much, so people don't really get into specifics with it. He's got far more effective and straightforward powers to use instead. Why bother summoning a massive thunderstorm when you can split mountains with a single punch? His weather control is generally treated as a secondary power set, or just a natural byproduct of his being the god of thunder--sometimes artists depict storms just happening when Thor uses any of his powers or gets angry or whatever.

I'm definitely of the camp that believes he can control the weather all on his own, though.

People do loooove being vague about Thor's weather manipulation abilities

 

[Vartha]

People do loooove being vague about Thor's weather manipulation abilities

In Blood oath it's blatantly obvious tho. Thor's under oath NOT to use Mjolnir for anything but to go from dimension to dimension, he kicked Herc's BUTT with Lightning bolts. The story takes place in the Classic Thor time period too.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He shot lightning bolts right out of his hands in a Journey into Mystery issue, too.

 

[Vartha]

I think I have that example somewhere