TIH Sequel changes?

[Cracker Jack]

Sheesh!!! I am at a loss of words to just how...............I just don't know. Whatever

 

[El Payaso]

Sheesh!!! I am at a loss of words to just how...............I just don't know. Whatever

"I believe the word you're looking for is... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"

 

[Grommers]

Like really, I don't think Hulk could of been killed by Blonsky, and yes he did kick him breaking every bone in his body, but I don't think it was a "I wanna kill" it was more like "**** off im gonna hurt you real bad if you continue to annoy me)



And yes, I've stated in previous posts that I have NEVER read a hulk comic book, so all I know are from these movies...and honestly, he comes off as always just defending himself, and saving people that are innocent..while going big and green.


I don't see whats the big deal about going green

 

[Judson Caspian]

Like really, I don't think Hulk could of been killed by Blonsky, and yes he did kick him breaking every bone in his body, but I don't think it was a "I wanna kill" it was more like "**** off im gonna hurt you real bad if you continue to annoy me)

Exactly, a point I made some pages ago. If the Hulk kills anyone, it's not intentionally. Some people still don't get it.

 

[El Payaso]

Like really, I don't think Hulk could of been killed by Blonsky,

You probably know many guys wioth every bone of his body pulverized that have happy normal lives.

and yes he did kick him breaking every bone in his body, but I don't think it was a "I wanna kill" it was more like "**** off im gonna hurt you real bad if you continue to annoy me)

When you're Hulk and you know you can crush a tank with your hands, it is obnvious you know what a kick of yours can do to a puny human.

And yes, I've stated in previous posts that I have NEVER read a hulk comic book, so all I know are from these movies...and honestly, he comes off as always just defending himself, and saving people that are innocent..while going big and green.

Defending himself and savinbg people is okay. Killing humans is not.

I don't see whats the big deal about going green

Nothing.

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Exactly, a point I made some pages ago. If the Hulk kills anyone, it's not intentionally. Some people still don't get it.

That's not a point, merely a statement.

When the Hulk kills he's supposedly doing it unintentionally.

But when you're Hulk and you know how weak human beings are and you're aware how destructive your strenght can be and you kick a human being so hard that you pulverize his body your actions speak for your intentions. Kicking Blonsky like that cannot be just a "hey stop being so annoying" only.

 

[Cracker Jack]

That's not a point, merely a statement.

When the Hulk kills he's supposedly doing it unintentionally.

But when you're Hulk and you know how weak human beings are and you're aware how destructive your strenght can be and you kick a human being so hard that you pulverize his body your actions speak for your intentions. Kicking Blonsky like that cannot be just a "hey stop being so annoying" only.

No it's the point that you chose to ignore. You can't say that the Hulk knew this or the Hulk knows that. You do not know. You are assuming. Part of the Hulk you seem to be forgeting is that he doesn't know how strong he is. Banner does but the Hulk doesn't know he own strength. You know he ment to kill the guys in the helio? Whatever. I guess I missed that part of the movie where he said that. It looked to me like he was trying to make them stop shooting at him because they might kill BETTY!!!! I really think you need to take off the Ang glasses. They're bluring your vision.

 

[UnionJack]

When do we all think the next Hulk film we be?

After Avengers or will he be a cameo in a few of the film leading up to what we all seem to think with him been the bad guy in Avengers.

Norton did a great job and it would be nice to see him to one more stand alone Hulk film.

Marvel could try World War Hulk .. we don't really see Banner much so having Hulk as mostly if not all just CG could work and use Norton after!?!

 

[UnionJack]

When do we all think the next Hulk film we be?

After Avengers or will he be a cameo in a few of the film leading up to what we all seem to think with him been the bad guy in Avengers.

Norton did a great job and it would be nice to see him to one more stand alone Hulk film.

Marvel could try World War Hulk .. we don't really see Banner much so having Hulk as mostly if not all just CG could work and use Norton after!?!

 

[El Payaso]

No it's the point that you chose to ignore.

What point? That he did things which direct consequences weree humans' deaths?

You can't say that the Hulk knew this or the Hulk knows that. You do not know. You are assuming.

Nope. I know for sure that Hulk has destroyed things that no human could and that he knpows humans are far weaker than he is. That's why they need machines and he doesn't.

Top assume is to say that he had no intention to kill even when he kicked a human being that he knew couldn't bear such impact.

Part of the Hulk you seem to be forgeting is that he doesn't know how strong he is. Banner does but the Hulk doesn't know he own strength.

Weren't you the guy who said that Hulk claims he's "the strongest there is"?

That said, it's clear for him that humans are weak compared to him. Hence "puny humans." That's been a tradition for Hulk.. and quite evident in every fight he has had against humans. He can crush a helicopter with his own hands.

You know he ment to kill the guys in the helio?

Yes. At that point he knows that throwing a heavy object against other they're both destroyed (he did it in the first Hulk-out). He didnt do it just to scare the pilot; he aimed directly the body of the helicopter.

I guess I missed that part of the movie where he said that.

You certainly miss the point where not everything is verbally explained in a movie.

It looked to me like he was trying to make them stop shooting at him because they might kill BETTY!!!!

What he did about it was to protect Betty with his own body. That didn't kill anyone.

Once again, if anything Hulk put Betty in a bigger danger by having a helicopter exploding all around Betty.

I really think you need to take off the Ang glasses. They're bluring your vision.

I've seen what the Leterrier glasses make to you. I haven't denied anything that Hulk did in Ang Lee's movie.

 

[dcHulk]

I've seen what the Leterrier glasses make to you. I haven't denied anything that Hulk did in Ang Lee's movie.

I believe you have, in regards to the Hulk "frisbee throw" at Gamma Base. I don't think he was playing catch with the general.

 

[El Payaso]

I believe you have, in regards to the Hulk "frisbee throw" at Gamma Base. I don't think he was playing catch with the general.

I'm sure he threw it to the upper portion of the room. I don't remember anyone died.

 

[[A]]

Haha it never ends!!! I find it entertaining, though

 

[El Payaso]

Haha it never ends!!! I find it entertaining, though

t:

*throws a piece of metal at you just to celebrate (not killing)*

 

[[A]]

good thing for you my stunt double is pretty fast

 

[El Payaso]

good thing for you my stunt double is pretty fast

I thought you were going to use the blurry ejector seat card.

 

[[A]]

Or the CGI me

Maybe there was no one in there -- like the bus that explodes in the first Transformers [/offtopic]

 

[dcHulk]

I'm sure he threw it to the upper portion of the room. I don't remember anyone died.

Sorry you misunderstood me. This is about "intent" to kill. Not that anyone died. But you seem to be bent on the Hulk's intent to kill in TIH. So the point here is that, although no one died, someone one could have. And given that he did throw it, according to your logic, he intended to kill.

This of course sounds just as ridiculous as the claim that the hulk intended to kill the helicopter pilots simply because he through that chunk of metal at them.

 

[El Payaso]

Sorry you misunderstood me. This is about "intent" to kill. Not that anyone died. But you seem to be bent on the Hulk's intent to kill in TIH. So the point here is that, although no one died, someone one could have. And given that he did throw it, according to your logic, he intended to kill.

This of course sounds just as ridiculous as the claim that the hulk intended to kill the helicopter pilots simply because he through that chunk of metal at them.

Of course you didn't take into account that I said the upper portion of the room (as opposite to the body of the helicopter where - if hit - no one can survive).

That said, if there's any danger of death the director might take the effort to establish that no one actually died as a direct consequence of Hulk's actions.

 

[dcHulk]

Of course you didn't take into account that I said the upper portion of the room (as opposite to the body of the helicopter where - if hit - no one can survive).

That said, if there's any danger of death the director might take the effort to establish that no one actually died as a direct consequence of Hulk's actions.

Okay, this is getting beyond ridiculous now. NOW the trajectories matter. As if the Hulk, with the mind of a 2 year old, cares anything about trajectories.

 

[El Payaso]

Okay, this is getting beyond ridiculous now. NOW the trajectories matter. As if the Hulk, with the mind of a 2 year old, cares anything about trajectories.

According to me, trajectories have mattered all the way through this discussion.

If he wants to punch Abomination to stop him he better cares for the trajectory of his fist, don't you think?

That said, I'm sure that trajectories matter. If a bullet is coming right to you, its trajectory certainly matters. It can set the difference between scaring your enemy and killing him. In Ang Lee's movie, Hulk throws a missile against some helicopters but he doesn't aim to the body so no one died.

 

[Sarg92]

In Ang Lee's movie, Hulk throws a missile against some helicopters but he doesn't aim to the body so no one died.

In TIH, Hulk threw the sheet of metal at the helicopter and it hit the rotor blades which made the helicopter lose control, crash to the ground, the pilot ejected his seat and no one died.

 

[[A]]

^ it didn't went right into the middle of the 'copter..? Just asking -- not trying to get into the fighting

 

[cryptic name]

You probably know many guys wioth every bone of his body pulverized that have happy normal lives.



When you're Hulk and you know you can crush a tank with your hands, it is obnvious you know what a kick of yours can do to a puny human.



Defending himself and savinbg people is okay. Killing humans is not.



Nothing.

*********



That's not a point, merely a statement.

When the Hulk kills he's supposedly doing it unintentionally.

But when you're Hulk and you know how weak human beings are and you're aware how destructive your strenght can be and you kick a human being so hard that you pulverize his body your actions speak for your intentions. Kicking Blonsky like that cannot be just a "hey stop being so annoying" only.

i think you're assigning the hulk way too much self awareness, especially as his rage grows

 

[[A]]

Hmm I wonder what Doc Samson thinks of this..

 

[dcHulk]

I'm going to do my best to refrain from any further comments about this "intentionally killing Hulk." This is going nowhere.