To Believe or Not To Believe? (SHOW RESPECT, OR RISK A BAN) - Part 2

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I grew up secular/liberal household. Religion or going to church wasn't all that important for my house growing up. My two best friends didn't have to go to church either though they did sometimes. 2 of my other best friends were Jewish. My other best friend was Hindu. All we cared about was cartoons, sports, girls and video games. I never asked my parents what they believed and they never asked me. They never even mentioned God or Jesus. Unless when they got mad, they'd curse their names or during thanksgiving when they said the prayers only because the grandparents were there. Eventually they started to go to church much later on, mostly for social reasons and because my sisters always asked them to go with her. So eventually I found Christ on my own due to my own interest. Then I did my own research and asked my own questions. The library, my friends and the internet helped a lot. As for signs that I have experienced. Well I won't dive into that. :oldrazz:

That's awesome that you found Christ on your own.
 
A lot of Christians (especially young earth creationist) think earth is some special little snowflake in the universe
 
Do any theists/Christians in here first have a fascination with astronomy, dinosaurs and evolution prior to their deep and unshakable belief in God?

Yea I did and still do. But like you said it doesn't negate my belief in God.
 
Well, I grew up in a Christian home. I guess I truly became Born Again in my early teens. Like most kids do around that age,I pretty much wanted to know why my family believed as we did and set out to prove it was trustworthy.I had started reading the Bible and had thousands of questions,so I did lots of research into theology/archaeology/history. And this was in the 90's before the internet-well at least before my family had it. So I did it the old fashioned way by reading books and so forth.

It's funny,because I feared researching my beliefs would cause me to have doubts,but the opposite happened and I began to feel my faith grow. Christianity isn't a blind faith by any means. There are well reasoned answers for every question. The trouble is people don't want to take the time to understand the context of the question.It's much simpler to rattle off things like "Well, the Bible says it's a sin to get tattoos!" or "Women had to marry their rapists in the Bible!" without taking the time to understand what was actually being said for that time and historical context.

Most people will only give the Bible a look at face value. They never learn to actually read the Bible for all it's worth. Now,I'm not saying I have all the answers (only One does) but there IS a valid answer to every question. "Whoever has ears, let them hear.” Matt 13:9

Yea I was the same way. I grew up in a Christian home but I really didn't know Christ or really lived my life for him until I was in my late teens/ early 20's. When I was yonger I had experiences in which I feel like God was real but I just had somewhat of a relationship with him. I still allowed myself to fall into the trap of believing that societies way of doing things and understanding things was better, and there was a period where I was unsure of my faith. But honestly, I just felt empty and the stuff people/ society loved like partying and getting drunk, and having sex with any body every weekend didn't appeal to me. Then when I was in college I was there has to be more to life than this. When I looked at the world, people, cultures, wildlife, land formations, seasons, space, planets, how the human body works, it all seemed like intelligent design to me, not just something that happened randomly. Then I re dedicated my life to Christ and my live has been awesome ever since.
 
Wow.. I will be praying for the family in this situation.

Thinks yeah just sad to hear and micheal has a like 7-8 month old kid so that means there kid will never get to know his grandpa now that he is gone. I just told his fehonca that if he needs some one to talk or a shoulder to cry on or any thing he can give me a call.
 
Do any theists/Christians in here first have a fascination with astronomy, dinosaurs and evolution prior to their deep and unshakable belief in God?

I've been fascinated with that stuff for as long as I can remember. Belief in a higher power hasn't changed that and my fascination in that stuff doesn't change my belief in a higher power.
 
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Come to think of it daredevil in the superhero I am aware of that is influenced by his religion.
 
Yeah,I was pleased how they handled DD's religion in that series.[BLACKOUT] I was a little concerned with the priest's explanation of why he believed in the devil[/BLACKOUT],but at any rate,I thought they handled it well.
 
Interesting article, thanks for the link.
Miller & Mazzucchelli’s DareDevil "Born Again" really did make great use of it. Visually(symbolically) and thematically for character, and as an overall narrative tool.

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As a Catholic I'd happily take Daredevil as the poster boy of my religion.


Others not shy about it are:

Helena Bertinelli - The Huntress
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And this guy....
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On the flip-side, there is...
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I thought that was Specter but it's apparently Ragman, I know Ben Grimm & Kitty Pryde are also Jewish.
Mr. Terrific as far as I know is one of the only openly Atheist heroes.
 
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This idea that every Christian is narrow minded or a hateful bigot just because there beliefs don't line up with what society says is really annoying. I am wondering if there will ever be a middle ground between people that believe and people that don't. I am hoping we can at least get to a point where both sides can understand and respect each other enough without labeling each other as something they are not just because they disagree with their opinion.


Sorry if this seems to come out of nowhere, there is article shared by CNN Facebook page talking about a Christian business owner and the comments section is insane and kinda irked me.
 
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I don't really believe in a middle ground. Calling beliefs out for what they are isn't necessarily wrong. Not every belief is on equal footing with other beliefs.

Of course I don't believe that every Christian is a bigot but you would only hear that from people who are quite bigoted themselves.
 
Just a question for those who might me more theologically knowledgable than I, how did the process for choosing the books of the Bible work? What methods and reasoning were used, etc? I've been wondering a lot about it lately.
 
Sorry if this seems to come out of nowhere, there is article shared by CNN Facebook page talking about a Christian business owner and the comments section is insane and kinda irked me.

If it's the story about the guy refusing to serve gays, then he IS a bigot and so is anyone that thinks like him.
 
just because life in the universe is very possible doesn't make earth any less special imo.

True.

And get back to me in the supposed billions of years it'll take for that star to create life before proclaiming it the "Nail in the coffin.":oldrazz:
 
If it's the story about the guy refusing to serve gays, then he IS a bigot and so is anyone that thinks like him.

I would go farther and say that there is no justification whatsoever to refuse service. If Jesus owned a burger joint, even He wouldn't refuse service to a gay person.
 
just because life in the universe is very possible doesn't make earth any less special imo.

There are many factors that make Earth unique but it's nothing special in terms of the universe

True.

And get back to me in the supposed billions of years it'll take for that star to create life before proclaiming it the "Nail in the coffin.":oldrazz:


I love the arrogance and ignorance in these statements. Modern man has only walked this earth for the last 200k years. The universe is over 14 billion years old. There are an estimated 30 billion exoplanets in the goldielocks zones scattered throughout the universe. The 4 things needed for life are water, oxygen, atmosphere and a magnetosphere. Not only are exoplanets quite common but super-earths are the new thing that show not only are Earth-like planets common but super-earths next to red dwarf stars (which are the most common type of star in the universe) are even more common and show much more promise than regular exoplanets as well as being able to sustain life much more easily than what Earth-like planets are able to harbor. Why would God create a near infinite universe and only make man? That is extremely stupid
 
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