Guardians of the Galaxy To Infinity and Beyond: The Thanos Thread - Part 1

[Joeyjojo72]

They can do a Thanos-centric prologue a la TA or LOTR that covers some of that stuff. But no narration.

 

[misjuevos]

One big change from the infinity gauntlet is the collector knowing about the stones. When Thanos went to the collector and traded him for the gem the collector had. The collector had no idea what he had. He thought it was a worthless piece of glass. The scene with the collector in the movie was great though. So even though now the collector knows of the stones I'm sure Thanos is still the only one who knows their full potential. That is what Thanos quest is. Thanos gathers these gems from their owners, who have no idea what these things can do fully. I can't wait to see Thanos' story unfold on the big screen.

 

[BatsDC]

I saw this again today, and honestly Thanos' scene is still one of my favourites - I know a few will disagree, but he oozes authority and fear and you can tell Ronan wants no part of Thanos' bad side. Brolin's voice is great too. The dialogue is superb also.

 

[PunyGod]

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[KINGTHANOS]

I saw this again today, and honestly Thanos' scene is still one of my favourites - I know a few will disagree, but he oozes authority and fear and you can tell Ronan wants no part of Thanos' bad side. Brolin's voice is great too. The dialogue is superb also.

I actually find it odd to see so many people disliking his look and voice. Personally, I'm a huge fan and have read almost every story involving Thanos, and I love the look. They could have easily butchered him and made him too small, skinny, or weird using makeup and prosthetics, but instead they used CGI and made him massive, with his unique armour and trademark helmet, wrinkled chin and purple skin.

Yeah the eyes could be glowing pits but so what, this is much more expressive and they will probably still glow any time he uses his powers and especially when he has the gauntlet. Also, after seeing the movie three times now, I can definitely say that the only reason his skin seems light bluish purple, is because of the lighting in space. There are close-ups that show his skin being quite purple.

As for the voice, well Brolin killed it and anyone disliking the sophistication in his tone has never read Thanos. He's not a bute in any shape or form unless he needs to be, and is at his base a scientist. The actor in the Silver Surfer cartoon that voiced Thanos was higher pitched but he nailed it, and Brolin is much deeper than him, yet has a similar articulation, so people should be grateful. Thanos is someone who talks a lot, and rarely used super baritone voice like Keith David makes no sense for him. Brolin commands presence with that voice and that's all you can ask for.

 

[cherokeesam]

I'm thinking The Collector is being set up as a rival for Thanos. He is keen on getting all the stones himself.

Why?
Tivan's little history lesson outlined exactly why gathering all six Stones together into one place is a very, very bad idea. Bigger gods than himself got vaporized when they attempted it in eons past.

The Infinity Gauntlet saga in the MCU only makes sense if Tivan is working for Thanos.

 

[metaphysician]

Why?
Tivan's little history lesson outlined exactly why gathering all six Stones together into one place is a very, very bad idea. Bigger gods than himself got vaporized when they attempted it in eons past.

The Infinity Gauntlet saga in the MCU only makes sense if Tivan is working for Thanos.

. . .so the fact of it being dangerous to have them all together, means he must be trying to get them all together, just for someone else?

 

[cherokeesam]

. . .so the fact of it being dangerous to have them all together, means he must be trying to get them all together, just for someone else?

Did I say he was *willingly* working for Thanos....? I don't believe I did.

Tivan being coerced, blackmailed, forced to collect Thanos' precious stones makes more sense than him *independently* thinking it's a good idea to gather them for his own collection.

 

[Dark Raven]

Tivan is willingly working for Thanos, because he is Thanos.

 

[PunyGod]

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[bubbadoom]

I actually find it odd to see so many people disliking his look and voice. Personally, I'm a huge fan and have read almost every story involving Thanos, and I love the look. They could have easily butchered him and made him too small, skinny, or weird using makeup and prosthetics, but instead they used CGI and made him massive, with his unique armour and trademark helmet, wrinkled chin and purple skin.

Just like they did in the Avengers with prosthetics...

 

[KINGTHANOS]

Just like they did in the Avengers with prosthetics...

All you saw in that little scene after Avengers was the side of his face with a shadow covering it, part of his helmet, the shoulder armour, and a much smaller body frame.

Personally I think the Guardians version looked MUCH better and closer to the comics version and it isn't even close. Any complaints are very minor and just nitpicking at this point. Even with prosthetics on Brolin's face, you'd still need a lot of CGI to increase the head size to match his robust frame.

 

[The Endless]

Tivan isn't working for Thanos... Good lawd.

Thanos just needs different eyes. They should be like black holes with pupils that glint like stars when he's happy or angry.

 

[cherokeesam]

Tivan seemed pretty excited when he saw the stone. I don't think he would be reacting that way if he was simply being forced to collect them by someone else.

And besides the plot wouldn't really make sense if Tivan is working for Thanos. Why would Thanos have two people working against each other to find the same object.

Who's working against each other? Certainly not Thanos against Tivan, if that's what you're suggesting. Thanos sent Ronan after the Orb; but Tivan has come by two (or more....) Stones by pure happenstance. Loki *literally* gave Tivan one of them, and Gamora gave him the other. Thanos didn't foresee Gamora betraying him, but if Tivan works for him, then she played right into his hands. (Another argument for Thanos looking like the smartest guy in the galaxy.) Also, keep in mind that the explosion that destroyed The Collection had *nothing* to do with Ronan or Thanos' will: it was entirely an unexpected turn of events caused by Carina trying to escape her slavery to Tivan.

There is nothing at all to suggest that Tivan is at odds with Thanos, or trying to stop him from gathering the Stones. The "one down, five to go" quote indicates a deliberate attempt by Tivan to catch 'em all; the question becomes, do you seriously believe he would come up with such a plan on his own --- knowing full well the deadly consequences of such an action --- or does it seem more likely that Thanos would have set him on that course by force or collusion?

 

[The Endless]

There is nothing at all to suggest that Tivan is in collaboration with Thanos, intentionally or otherwise.

Tivan's reaction to seeing the Gem says it all "beautiful". He's The Collector... he collects. He was even eyeing up Groot to add to his collection. He may know it's incredibly dangerous to keep them all together. But he's an obsessive compulsive hoarder.

It's possible, maybe even probable, that Thanos is the only one who understands the Gems and their true nature. Just like the comics.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

If The Collector had Adam Warlock like we all think he did, he could have potentially had the Soul Gem unintentionally in his possession too

 

[The Caped Knight]

 

[cherokeesam]

There is nothing at all to suggest that Tivan is in collaboration with Thanos, intentionally or otherwise.

Tivan's reaction to seeing the Gem says it all "beautiful". He's The Collector... he collects. He was even eyeing up Groot to add to his collection. He may know it's incredibly dangerous to keep them all together. But he's an obsessive compulsive hoarder.

It's possible, maybe even probable, that Thanos is the only one who understands the Gems and their true nature. Just like the comics.

Look at it this way.
Tivan apparently has a reputation of being the "go-to guy" when it comes to giving Infinity Stones to anyone not named Thanos. He was Loki's first choice, and he was Gamora's first choice. So, if he has a reputation like that, do you *really* believe that Thanos wouldn't know about it? Do you *really* believe that Thanos would allow some pawn broker in Intergalactic Vegas to steal *his* gems?

Thanos knows where ALL the Stones are. That much is obvious. He knew that the Tesseract was being kept in a top secret SHIELD lab on Earth; that the Power Stone was hidden in a ruined temple on the volcano world Morag. He knew that Gamora had taken that Stone to Tivan. He *probably* knew that Tivan had the Aether as well.

So the only logical explanation for all that is that he's *letting* Tivan live, and gather the Stones. If Tivan was seriously competing with Thanos for the Stones, he would've been dead a LOOOOONG time ago.

 

[JLMHodge]

The whole thing of Loki sending the Aether to Tivan suggests to me that they are working for Thanos. The only thing about that theory is that if he sent him the Aether for Thanos, why not also send the Tesseract? As far as I know Loki still has it. The only other reason I could think of Loki sending Tivan the Aether is that it was some sort of peace offering for his failure on Earth.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

No, the reason Tivan has the Aether is because, quite rightly, having both on Asgard is insane

 

[JLMHodge]

No, the reason Tivan has the Aether is because, quite rightly, having both on Asgard is insane

I see your point, but having the Orb as well as the Aether is pretty damn stupid as well.

 

[kaijunexus]

As interesting as this is to see, I'd have to imagine that the Gauntlet will look quite a bit different once we see it in action.

The gauntlet glimpsed in Thor was probably nothing more than an easter egg thrown in for fun. I'm sure that a lot has changed behind the scenes regarding the Infinity Stones since then.

 

[marcvader]

I see your point, but having the Orb as well as the Aether is pretty damn stupid as well.

Aether in Knowhere, Orb in Xandar.

 

[JLMHodge]

Aether in Knowhere, Orb in Xandar.

I know, but they brought it there intially. It ended up on Xandar after.

 

[ctsketch]

I know, but they brought it there intially. It ended up on Xandar after.

Aasgard is the one who said it was not wise to have them close.... the collector has his own agenda