The Dark Knight Rises Two-Face in the Third Film?

[Darlton]

Hmm, people, I'm no mod but I think there are at least two Joker casting threads. Let's use this one for Two-Face talk, please.

 

[GregComicFan]

Although I do believe Dent/Two-Face is dead and gone, and Eckhart, unless used in flashbacks, will NOT be in Batman 3.... I still think revealing that Two-Face is alive like mid-way through Batman 3 would be one hell of a "holy s**t" moment and cool twist, if it served the story well.

 

[BatmanForNever]

No he's dead, leave him alone.

 

[BestGirl]

No he's dead, leave him alone.

I agree. I thought Dent's arc in TDK was perfect in its tragedy and bringing him back would be ruining a good thing. If the story needs him to come back then so be it but I'd rather leave him and Joker behind. Let's just get some new villains for the movie.

 

[Anubis]

Like who? Since there will be no fantastic characters in this "Realistic" universe. They've used them all up.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I was very disappointed that Nolan "killed" Harvey off, since there was so much more he could have done with him. However, it would be extremely hard to bring him back without it seeming incredibly contrived. You could do it, but it would take some stellar writing.

 

[Dog Logan]

Like who? Since there will be no fantastic characters in this "Realistic" universe. They've used them all up.

The Riddler, Catwoman, Bane, Talia al Ghul.....there are tons of characters to be used, but I feel like there's a lot more that can be done with Two-Face.

 

[BestGirl]

Like who? Since there will be no fantastic characters in this "Realistic" universe. They've used them all up.

I would like Black Mask, the Riddler, and Catwoman, or some combination of those three for the sequel. All three are more than realistic enough.

 

[Adrian89]

No, Two-Face is done and that's it. Get over it guys!

 

[Two-Face]

You don't know that.

 

[Dog Logan]

All I know is that if Two-Face returned I wouldn't be complaining, he's a great character.

 

[RichardMoore]

I wouldn't be complaining if Two-Face came back. Who would? Half the people who saw "The Dark Knight" in theaters have doubts about Two-Face's death. Everybody asks me "Did Two-Face really die?" If they brought him back midway through the movie in some sort of awesome twist that fit in well with the story, the general audience would eat it up.

 

[jesterjay]

If Two-Face returned I'd hate the movie For starters, he's dead - I've watched the movie a lot, and he's dead. But more importantly if he's brought back, then the Joker won. He proved he changed Harvey with one bad day. It would ruin the whole reason for Batman to be on the run. The city can't have him come back - it would collapse on itself, and then we're back to square one. No progress made. That's just ridiculous.

 

[Dog Logan]

That was the whole point of TDK....to have the Joker win. Whether or not Harvey is dead, the Joker won. Period.

 

[Mrs.J]

All I know is that if Two-Face returned I wouldn't be complaining, he's a great character.

agreed!!

I wouldn't be complaining if Two-Face came back. Who would? Half the people who saw "The Dark Knight" in theaters have doubts about Two-Face's death. Everybody asks me "Did Two-Face really die?" If they brought him back midway through the movie in some sort of awesome twist that fit in well with the story, the general audience would eat it up.

I believe this as well. If nolan wanted to bring him back I know that he could do the script justice. TDK, BB, are proof that he is good at what he does

That was the whole point of TDK....to have the Joker win. Whether or not Harvey is dead, the Joker won. Period.

Exactly right---even though only gordon and batman know---the joker did succeed. Thats why batman took the blame---because if the public knew that the joker succeed--they would loose all that hope they had gained

 

[redhawk23]

Like who? Since there will be no fantastic characters in this "Realistic" universe. They've used them all up.

not necesarrily true i mean look at Ras, if nolan can adapt the imortal into realism why not other things.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Everyone talking about batman breaking his "one rule" are totally missing the point of that rule to show humanity. If he had let that child die just so he would not be directly involved in the un meditated death of Harvey he would have done the opposite purpose of that rule, he would have shown no humanity.

Letting a child die just so one does not break a personal rule is the opposite of showing humanity.

 

[RichardMoore]

That was the whole point of TDK....to have the Joker win. Whether or not Harvey is dead, the Joker won. Period.

And I think the third film should end with Gotham's citizens knowing the truth. The challenge is that, with the knowledge of Two-Face and the Joker's victory, will Gotham stand up and show that it can still survive? If Batman vindicates himself, the truth HAS to come out. Batman has to have a complete victory by the end of the third film to counteract the evil that the Joker has wrought.

 

[BestGirl]

^I can't imagine what will happen to Gordon when Gotham learns he covered up a crime.

 

[Closerframe]

If Gotham is made aware of the events that occurred at the end of The Dark Knight than Batman's sacrifice would have been worthless and the entire ending monologue would have been pointless. Two-Face is dead and won't be coming back, technically the Joker didn't win because Gotham is unaware of Harvey Dent's actions. By the end of Batman 3, Batman has to be feared not praised, he's not Spider-Man or Superman. In the comics he's viewed as a monster by some, a urban legend by others, and a hero in the eyes of children. Something Nolan has slightly been establishing in each of his Batman films. There will be no redemption to the city, Batman will never make up for what has happened he will always hate himself for not being able to save both Rachel and Harvey.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I wouldn't be complaining if Two-Face came back. Who would? Half the people who saw "The Dark Knight" in theaters have doubts about Two-Face's death. Everybody asks me "Did Two-Face really die?" If they brought him back midway through the movie in some sort of awesome twist that fit in well with the story, the general audience would eat it up.

I would. Why? Because it would be ****ing ridiculous to explain how a guy with a broken neck some how got up and walked off when the entire area was surrounded by cops and sniffer dogs.

That was the whole point of TDK....to have the Joker win. Whether or not Harvey is dead, the Joker won. Period.

Exactly right---even though only gordon and batman know---the joker did succeed. Thats why batman took the blame---because if the public knew that the joker succeed--they would loose all that hope they had gained

Sorry, you are both wrong. To an extent. Joker didn't win. Period.

The only way Joker would of got a full win is if Batman killed him and the ships blew each other up.

 

[Bathead]

I would. Why? Because it would be ****ing ridiculous to explain how a guy with a broken neck some how got up and walked off when the entire area was surrounded by cops and sniffer dogs.





Sorry, you are both wrong. To an extent. Joker didn't win. Period.

The only way Joker would of got a full win is if Batman killed him and the ships blew each other up.

And where did it say in the movie Dent had a broken neck?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

You see the way his neck was turned? And it also said in the novelization that his neck was broke.

But regardless of all that, it would be absolutely ridiculous if he some how survived AND didn't get picked up by the police. I mean what, he just get's up and walks away, even though the entire area is surrounded by cops and sniffer dogs?

 

[Two-Face]

The script?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Ahhh was it the script? Thought it was the novel.