Venom could never have been a main villain... think about it.

[not_a_victim]

true, but Brock wouldn't get a great amount of screentime in spidey2 due to the fact that there was Ock's origin and peter losing his power's. so I think it was better that he was introduced in SM3 because there is a great deal of screen time available for him because this film is mostly about the symbiote and how it take's over. in fact there are plenty of way's that Venom could have been the main villian, but I think one of the reason's sandman was the main villian was because he has a big connection with the death of uncle ben. not to mention that the death of uncle ben is a huge thing not only in the film's but all through the spidey comic's. your observation was good but I just don't think that would happen in a such a good manor. too many thing's would be going on in spidey2 making it so that Brock's screentime might indeed be lowered down just to a cameo appearance. Quite frankly, Eddie Brock's story should stay the way it is and tell eddie brock's story all through this film and toward's the end he get's the symbiote. that's just the way I see it though, if they did it in SM1 then Brock's appearance would be just cameo due to the simple fact that there was more than one origin to tell.

You're quite right about Brock and screentime in SMII. It would have to be limited in order to not get a "crammed" feeling for the movie, like SMIII has the potential to. Even if we just get an intoduction to the character and a few minutes of screentime, it would be more fluid than just dropping Brock into SMIII, and trying get us to care about him or who he is, and suddenly make him the biggest threat in SPidey's carreer.
The way it is now, Brock is just gonna seem like a jerk, who possibly gets what he deserves. If we were to see the rise and fall of Brock, we might care a little more.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

You're quite right about Brock and screentime in SMII. It would have to be limited in order to not get a "crammed" feeling for the movie, like SMIII has the potential to. Even if we just get an intoduction to the character and a few minutes of screentime, it would be more fluid than just dropping Brock into SMIII, and trying get us to care about him or who he is, and suddenly make him the biggest threat in SPidey's carreer.
The way it is now, Brock is just gonna seem like a jerk, who possibly gets what he deserves. If we were to see the rise and fall of Brock, we might care a little more.

well Brock's introduction into this film is going to be realistic. and his rise and fall is him getting more money than peter, but peter provw'd him wrong with the picture's and prove's that they are fake, making it so that Brock get's fired. so then he turn's to his ex-girlfreind (Gwen Stacy) but she and her parent's kick him out leaving him alone and dark. his story is going to unfold more in more as the film progresses. in 2:20 or so, we will witness Brock trying to reach the top and get ahead of peter but then fail's and goe's to being a nobody. to be honest, Brock doesn't just have a random drop in and a random conflict with peter. what start's it is how Brock treat's peter and start's teasing him and just say's thing's to let peter know who the better man is. so Brock is turning it into a competition to see who is the better photographer. and when JJJ set's that up, Brock take's it very serious, like it's life or death. so Brock preety much think's of peter as a wimp and a nerd. which is why Brock's introduction in spidey3 was a good idea, his whole story can be told without having to wait until another sequal to see his character as one of the main character's instead of a cameo.

 

[not_a_victim]

^^Excellent points. I didn't realize they were going for the "bully" Brock, Since Grace isn't as physically imposing as the original comic Brock. I think we all would like to see more Venom than we are going to see, mostly because Venom has been the best Spider-man villian in a long time, possibly ever.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^Excellent points. I didn't realize they were going for the "bully" Brock, Since Grace isn't as physically imposing as the original comic Brock. I think we all would like to see more Venom than we are going to see, mostly because Venom has been the best Spider-man villian in a long time, possibly ever.

I for one defenitley agree with you. but trust me, I think Venom won't return in the film's. but in spidey3, his appearance is going to be so badass and so will the fight!..

 

[shigsy2003]

Even though I am huge Venom fan I kind of agree. He worked in TAS as he was only in his origin ep for the full 20 mins. However having him in a two hour film taunting Pete would get rather old.

I know he was another two TAS eps (Venom Returns and Carnage) but IMO they weren't as good as The Alien Symbiote Part 3.

 

[Hyperbole]

All of this is very true.

 

[Spade]

The moment this starts...

...people are going to forget all about him not being the main villain.

 

[Arcturus]

lol, I love that pic.

Venom: Spidey meet wall. Wall, meet spidey!

 

[Hyperbole]

Lol

 

[Cmill216]

^ That's pretty much the ideal sized Venom.

 

[Arcturus]

^ That's pretty much the ideal sized Venom.

Although i'm happy with the current Venom, this is how I would've had it done.

 

[Hyperbole]

Very cool.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The moment this starts...

...people are going to forget all about him not being the main villain.

no doubt about that. Venom is beating the living crap out of spidey in that picture, his costume is torn. so I'm expecting something or exactly like that in spidey3 and quite frankly I think that's what we are going to get judging by the novel and the trailer's.

 

[Hyperbole]

Mmmhmmm

 

[spiders_venomm]

He cant be the main villain.

 

[Mr Jide]

Sandman is not a good main villian too .

...And you say this because you've actually seen the movie

 

[Mr Jide]

I couldn't care less who the main villain is. I'm just glad we've got 3 villains to deal with who will hopefully each, provide enough entertainment to keep me happy and more importantly awake

 

[Dragon]

The moment this starts...

...people are going to forget all about him not being the main villain.

But then, that's only going to happen because Sandman- the actual main villain- is there.

 

[venom628]

But then, that's only going to happen because Sandman- the actual main villain- is there.

Venom is the main villain!

 

[The Joker]

Venom is the main villain!

No, he's not. He doesn't show up until the final act of the movie. Sandman is the main villain.

He's there from start to finish, and is the focal point of Peter's anger.

 

[Visionary]

Even though I am huge Venom fan I kind of agree. He worked in TAS as he was only in his origin ep for the full 20 mins. However having him in a two hour film taunting Pete would get rather old.

I know he was another two TAS eps (Venom Returns and Carnage) but IMO they weren't as good as The Alien Symbiote Part 3.

Excellent point.

Even though there were 3 episodes, Venom was basically only in one. If you don't count the nano-second of his transformation and few words in part 2 at the end. Yet, the 3-parter was one of the best of the entire series.

What's really sad about most Venom fans is, they don't include Brock's life and interactions with Peter, JJJ, etc. as being apart of Venom. Even the cartoon realized that in order to make Venom interesting they would need to show a lot more of Eddie Brock. Most just want to see Venom beat the living crap out of Spider-Man.

 

[The Joker]

Excellent point.

Even though there were 3 episodes, Venom was basically only in one. If you don't count the nano-second of his transformation and few words in part 2 at the end. Yet, the 3-parter was one of the best of the entire series.

Not to mention there was four other villains holding those episodes up, too. Kingpin, Shocker, Rhino, and Smythe. They were in the bulk of those episodes.

 

[Visionary]

Yeah, that's true.

 

[shigsy2003]

Excellent point.

Even though there were 3 episodes, Venom was basically only in one. If you don't count the nano-second of his transformation and few words in part 2 at the end. Yet, the 3-parter was one of the best of the entire series.

Agreed, in The Alien Symbiote Part 3 he is Venom all the way through. In Venom Returns and Carnage he is fighting to stay as Brock as he wants to be with Ashely.

What's really sad about most Venom fans is, they don't include Brock's life and interactions with Peter, JJJ, etc. as being apart of Venom. Even the cartoon realized that in order to make Venom interesting they would need to show a lot more of Eddie Brock. Most just want to see Venom beat the living crap out of Spider-Man.

While I do want to see Venom kick the living crap out of Spidey I do agree with your analysis of what makes Venom interesting. He needs fuel for his fire and his hatred of Spider-Man/Parker is that fuel. When he finds out they are one in the same it may as well be November 5th.

Unlike the cartoon though it does seem as though he will lay more blame on Peter as opposed to Spider-Man. So far the only thing he can hate Spider-Man for is breaking his camera.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Excellent point.

Even though there were 3 episodes, Venom was basically only in one. If you don't count the nano-second of his transformation and few words in part 2 at the end. Yet, the 3-parter was one of the best of the entire series.

What's really sad about most Venom fans is, they don't include Brock's life and interactions with Peter, JJJ, etc. as being apart of Venom. Even the cartoon realized that in order to make Venom interesting they would need to show a lot more of Eddie Brock. Most just want to see Venom beat the living crap out of Spider-Man.

I myself want to see Venom beat the living crap out of spider-man. but I do agree about showing more Brock would make Venom intertesting, which is why I'm excited to see his character on film. I mean without Eddie Brock's story and Eddie Brock himself, there would be no Venom. quite frankly it's the hatred inside the symbiote and inside Brock that created Venom, so now we are going to see how raged Venom is at peter. which result's in a butt kicking fight that Spidey has to survive through without dieing. so yeah Eddie Brock's story is the one of the most important part because all the stuff that happen's to Eddie Brock is what cause's the hatred inside him.