Veronica Mars

[Sawyer]

You should've asked him if he keeps in touch with David Spade.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I just finished the series.

So let me first get this out of the way....... *tears* :heart: An amazing show.

Moving on, the first question I have after watching the finale:

Spoiler

Didn't the voice Wallace was hearing during his Castle ish sound exactly like Piz?

iim soooo sad, i just finished the series too i hate how it ended... at least finish the dang case with the sex vid!!!!

and yeah the voice sounded alot like Piz to me too... though if he was intended to be the one taping it, that would have pissed me off... im tired of all of roni's boys having a dark twisted side... Piz was awesome and perfect for her.... imo in terms of guys for V, in order of best to worst it would have been.... Piz, Leo, Duncan, and then Logan.... sorry but seriously, V gets pissed off at logan for shagging the girl she hates? yet sleeps with him after she knows he has hooked up alot? including with his best friends step mom? gross.... I hated logan and veronica together with a passion

 

[spideyboy_1111]

btw, has anyone ever listed the fun easter eggs in the show? such goodies like...

The Trinna Echolls/Willow vs Kendell Casablancas/Cordy scene?

or

Maya Gallo/Harmony Chase (possible buffy influenced name?) and Elliot DiMauro/Keith Mars love affair (both actors played lovers on VM and Just Shoot ME)

and of course the Joss and Kevin cameos...

can anyone list anything else like that?

we also have grueling cameos by Paris Hilton, the girl from laguna beach, and i do believe the lesbian from America's next top model


o and also both "Mac" and "Beaver" have been on the show "big love"

 

[Cmill216]

I loved Charisma Carpenter's character. Not only for the eye candy factor, but her interactions with Dick, Cassidy, and Logan were some of the highlights of Season 2.

 

[Bastila]

You know these even out on dvd yet in the UK not even season 1 !!

Not like I can download it as my laptop has like died so only online at work evil evil evil lol

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Spidey, you are no longer allowed to talk to me.

Logan/Veronica = PERFECTION.

Piz = The destroyer of all that is good.

 

[Cmill216]

I have to agree with JAB, here.

As much angst as there was between Logan and Veronica, it was the perfect roller coaster relationship.

Piz reeked of *****ebaggery.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Spidey, you are no longer allowed to talk to me.

Logan/Veronica = PERFECTION.

Piz = The destroyer of all that is good.

and your an idiot. logan doesnt deseve veronica, he may love her, but he's gross, the women he's slept with, the things that he's done. Piz is a sweetheart, and would never do half the crap logan has done. i despised logan and veronica when together,

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I have to agree with JAB, here.

As much angst as there was between Logan and Veronica, it was the perfect roller coaster relationship.

Piz reeked of *****ebaggery.

logan and v together is a dead end, its just as bad as spike and buffy together, it might be fun to watch, but it wont ever go anywhere.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

No no. I think you are wrong here...

See when comparing Buffy and Veronica and their relationship with their mens.

Piz is Spike and Logan is Angel, everyone knows this.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Oh and Logan and Veronica = EPIC.

Veronica and Piz = Not so much.

 

[Shifty]

i despised logan and veronica when together,

Which time the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th?

Logan didn't deserve Veronica and neither did Piz but he was the best out of the four guys she dated.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

No no. I think you are wrong here...

See when comparing Buffy and Veronica and their relationship with their mens.

Piz is Spike and Logan is Angel, everyone knows this.

how? he was a fun, loving, sweet guy? he has never done anything to V besides be very gentle and loving to her...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Which time the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th?

Logan didn't deserve Veronica and neither did Piz but he was the best out of the four guys she dated.

I felt Piz and V meshed better... Logan was an *******, and you'd have to sink pretty damn low to find him as a good bf...

-He had sex with your best friend
-his father killed your best friend
-he's a basket case due to his parents
-he screwed his best friends step mom
-pretty much did that right in front of you
-is a prick
-a *****e
-dated a girl just to get back at her father (initially)
-hurt you several times.

please logan was an abusive relationship, sure spike did it to buffy physically too, but both were mentally abused by these men.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

The thing you are totally missing here is....Logan LOVED Veronica very much. He ****ed up yes, but all in all, he always came back to her and she always came back to him. They started off very oddly, but they grew to love very much to the point that no one or nothing the other would do, could keep them apart.

PLENTY of people love like this in real life. Logan and Veronica's relationship is a very real very twisty turn epic relationship and they were despite their problems the perfect couple.

Piz was just a dent in the road. Hell, when the series was ending, they were already unraveling as a couple and they had just started!

 

[spideyboy_1111]

The thing you are totally missing here is....Logan LOVED Veronica very much. He ****ed up yes, but all in all, he always came back to her and she always came back to him. They started off very oddly, but they grew to love very much to the point that no one or nothing the other would do, could keep them apart.

PLENTY of people love like this in real life. Logan and Veronica's relationship is a very real very twisty turn epic relationship and they were despite their problems the perfect couple.

Piz was just a dent in the road. Hell, when the series was ending, they were already unraveling as a couple and they had just started!

He F*d up quite alot. there relationship always felt forced, and V is way to smart to get with a guy like that, they only seemed to care when they were both desperate for love. and i felt it was pretty clear logan loved more then V really loved logan. umm how exactly were they unraveling? they seemed to be getting even closer during the sex video scandal. Logan is a wild card, and i think Veronica finally realized that Logan was a dead end. Just because the guy went emo and lost the only good thing to ever come into his life, doesn't make him a good fit. I lost respect for V everytime she went back to that scum bag... hell even duncan was better then logan

 

[Jennifer Walters]

He F*d up quite alot. there relationship always felt forced, and V is way to smart to get with a guy like that, they only seemed to care when they were both desperate for love. and i felt it was pretty clear logan loved more then V really loved logan. umm how exactly were they unraveling? they seemed to be getting even closer during the sex video scandal. Logan is a wild card, and i think Veronica finally realized that Logan was a dead end. Just because the guy went emo and lost the only good thing to ever come into his life, doesn't make him a good fit. I lost respect for V everytime she went back to that scum bag... hell even duncan was better then logan

You can't even hold half the actions you are holding against him! He didn't kill Lily! Aaron did. He didn't tell his father to kill his OWN girlfriend. Plus, he dated her best friend, sure, but it was in the past and that shouldn't be held against him either.

In fact, I could spend time unraveling everything you've said against Logan, but you go have your Piz/Veronica, which I can guarantee was going nowhere.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

You can't even hold half the actions you are holding against him! He didn't kill Lily! Aaron did. He didn't tell his father to kill his OWN girlfriend. Plus, he dated her best friend, sure, but it was in the past and that shouldn't be held against him either.

In fact, I could spend time unraveling everything you've said against Logan, but you go have your Piz/Veronica, which I can guarantee was going nowhere.

no, but id still find it hard to be attracted to him, his family, and that fact that he was bangin my best friend. .

Logan has done nothing but her V... Piz has done nothing but give her faith that a good guy can actually come into her life

 

[Abaddon]

In the long term, V shouldn't be with either of them. Piz is lame, and Logan is more damaged than she is. And Leo was a good guy who came into 'ronni's life way before Piz, and she played him.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

In the long term, V shouldn't be with either of them. Piz is lame, and Logan is more damaged than she is. And Leo was a good guy who came into 'ronni's life way before Piz, and she played him.

well i think personally leo made her realize what a conniving bi+(h she can be in order to get what she wants... and like she learned from getting close to logan, i feel she learned how to treat piz and take a chance on him. They may or may not of worked out, but i felt Piz was just about ready to show her a safe and trusting bf. I sadly could see him being a "gwen stacey" and getting killed off though

 

[04nbod]

I felt Piz and V meshed better... Logan was an *******, and you'd have to sink pretty damn low to find him as a good bf...

-He had sex with your best friend
-his father killed your best friend
-he's a basket case due to his parents
-he screwed his best friends step mom
-pretty much did that right in front of you
-is a prick
-a *****e
-dated a girl just to get back at her father (initially)
-hurt you several times.

please logan was an abusive relationship, sure spike did it to buffy physically too, but both were mentally abused by these men.

firstly he was with lily before veronica, his father's actions shouldn't reflect on him, he has issues but don't we all and he was broken up with veronica when he was with kendell and parker. Logan is secretive which makes the perfect opposite for a detective. What isn't in doubt though is that he loves V and doesn't want to hurt her. He just seems to do it without realising.

 

[04nbod]

You know these even out on dvd yet in the UK not even season 1 !!

Not like I can download it as my laptop has like died so only online at work evil evil evil lol

I imported all three seasons, and unlocked my DVD player just for VM. It was so worth it. The special features were awful though

 

[Abaddon]

well i think personally leo made her realize what a conniving bi+(h she can be in order to get what she wants... and like she learned from getting close to logan, i feel she learned how to treat piz and take a chance on him. They may or may not of worked out, but i felt Piz was just about ready to show her a safe and trusting bf. I sadly could see him being a "gwen stacey" and getting killed off though

You give Piz way too much credit. He was not that special.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

You give Piz way too much credit. He was not that special.

He was far more special to the train wreck Logan was.... I honestly don't see how anyone liked him, other then the episodes that showed he had a heart... but he has way toooo much baggage, and personally V deserves alot better than Logan... Duncan will though, always be her true love... but i felt Piz was a very refreshing step away from logan.

 

[04nbod]

He was far more special to the train wreck Logan was.... I honestly don't see how anyone liked him, other then the episodes that showed he had a heart... but he has way toooo much baggage, and personally V deserves alot better than Logan... Duncan will though, always be her true love... but i felt Piz was a very refreshing step away from logan.

Logan was a good guy who was raised wrong. I don't see why his 'baggage' or issues meant he was undeserving of love.