Warner Bros. Reimagining Sherlock Holmes

[terry78]

This movie is more accurate to the novels than any of the other tv series/films/cartoons.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

This movie is more accurate to the novels than any of the other tv series/films/cartoons.

I couldn't give to s**ts about rather it was accurate or not. My main concern is about the actual movie I am watching.

I thought that movie was decent entertainment whocares if it was or wasn't accurate?

Sherlock Holmes is a 100 year old character, even if the movie did change things up, it needed too.

 

[Octoberist]

why are you being kinda aggressive towards Terry when he was answering another person's question?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

why are you being kinda aggressive towards Terry when he was answering another person's question?

I really wasn't trying to be...sorry it came off that way to you.

 

[terry78]

You sassy black women always trying to put down us brothas.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You sassy black women always trying to put down us brothas.

lol, that post didn't come off the way I wanted it too.

I'm not even in love with the movie so I'm not trying to angrliy defend it or anything.

I was just pointing out that once I get in the theater I want to see a good movie that ofcourse retains the spirit of the source material.

If the movie is completely faithful and is uninteresting then I not going to love it because it was just like the book or theme park ride or comicbook. It has to be a good movie first and foremost.

 

[Octoberist]

it's all good. i'm seeing it tonight.

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

what's the folk song that was being played during Holmes barista ring fight scene against that bigger guy where he first sees Rachel McAdams wink at him?

I've been trying to find it on youtube

I told you guys already : The Rocky Road To Dublin by The Dubliners

 

[echostation]

thanks for replying, cheers!!

 

[Doctor Jones]

I seriously don't get what's so wrong with a more adventurous side of Holmes. It was alluded to in the books but never shown. So what's wrong with it being shown? It wasn't like it was a Michael Bay film or anything. It had action, actually only about three main action scenes. The rest were stylistic and edgy. Ritchie's touch gave it that extra kick.

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

I seriously don't get what's so wrong with a more adventurous side of Holmes. It was alluded to in the books but never shown. So what's wrong with it being shown? It wasn't like it was a Michael Bay film or anything. It had action, actually only about three main action scenes. The rest were stylistic and edgy. Ritchie's touch gave it that extra kick.

oh god..the thought of bay and sherlock...

 

[AlteredEgo]

found this link over on IMDB, has to do with validity of a tougher Sherlock: http://mcmurdoscamp.wordpress.com/2009/07/23/sherlock-holmes-tough-guy/

 

[Boom]

There was a song that played at the beginning of the end credits that had a violin. Does anyone know what it was called?

 

[Lighthouse]

can someone who has actually read the novels answer this question: did they totally butcher the original SH character as the trailers and clips suggest?

This movie is more accurate to the novels than any of the other tv series/films/cartoons.

I think thats a bit much. The movie is quite faithful to the books, but I think the Granada series is the definitive Holmes adaptations. In fact, because those adaptations are so definitive, I think some reinvention was really needed.

The thing you have to know about the Holmes stories is that Conan Doyle didn't take them all that seriously and didn't really give a crap about continuity. Doyle wrote these stories because they made a lot of money, and felt his medical profession was much more important. When you read Sherlock, you'll notice lots of inconsistencies(I'm pretty sure Watson's war injury moves to different body parts on more then one occasion.) Point being that a lot of the changes in the movie are things that can be left open to interpretation from the books(namely his feelings for Adler).

Downey's performance is a real delight, and although to me Sherlock is much more of a stiff, captious and fastidious than Downey shows him, it's still very much Holmes.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I love the eccentric weirdo Holmes. To me it's more interesting.

And I got a kick out of Holmes yelling some random **** when he leaped out of the window. It sounded like some Bruce Lee yell. I was like WTF?

 

[Lighthouse]

My favorite line was "The only mystery is why you bothered blindfolding me in the first place." It's a very Sherlock line.

I love the eccentric weirdo Holmes. To me it's more interesting.

And I got a kick out of Holmes yelling some random **** when he leaped out of the window. It sounded like some Bruce Lee yell. I was like WTF?

I know I continuously talk about Jeremy Brett, but to me, the Granada TV series was so nearly perfect and definitive towards the original Sherlock Holmes stories, that to do a straight adaption of Doyle's work would be redundant and pale in comparison the Brett's performance. For Sherlock Holmes to reemerge, it needed a new angle that was faithful in spirit but with a new focus, and I think the movie does that perfectly.

 

[Doctor Jones]

God, I loved that part too.

And I can't get that scene where

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Holmes follows Adler, and ended up being the old man at the carriage out of my head. It was done so damn well. And it was clever.

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I really enjoyed Holmes disguises. I didn't even expect them to be there. Did he do it in the books?

 

[The Navigator]

Yes, and often, sometimes surprising even Watson.

 

[Doctor Jones]

My favorite line was "The only mystery is why you bothered blindfolding me in the first place." It's a very Sherlock line.



I know I continuously talk about Jeremy Brett, but to me, the Granada TV series was so nearly perfect and definitive towards the original Sherlock Holmes stories, that to do a straight adaption of Doyle's work would be redundant and pale in comparison the Brett's performance. For Sherlock Holmes to reemerge, it needed a new angle that was faithful in spirit but with a new focus, and I think the movie does that perfectly.

I haven't read any of the stories but you sound like you're right. I should start reading them. Any ones that are really great and need to be read?

 

[Lighthouse]

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I really enjoyed Holmes disguises. I didn't even expect them to be there. Did he do it in the books?

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Yes, most particularly in Scandal In Bohemia, where he disguises himself twice so he can learn more about Irene Adler's plans.

Still from the movie.

Sydney Paget's illustration of Holmes from the original publication

 

[Doctor Jones]

Gah, I can't believe I forgot about that. I was scanning back through the old pages yesterday. Thanks though.

 

[Infinity9999x]

To answer your question Doctor J, yes, Holmes did frequently use disguises in the books.

 

[The Navigator]

I haven't read any of the stories but you sound like you're right. I should start reading them. Any ones that are really great and need to be read?

I would recommend the Sign of the Four, Adventure of the Speckled Band, Hound of the Baskervilles, Adventure of the Engineer's Thumb (a personal favorite, probably not as good as I remember it), Scandal in Bohemia (introduction of Irene Adler), Adventure of the Final Problem (Moriarty). There are others.

 

[Lighthouse]

I would recommend the Sign of the Four, Adventure of the Speckled Band, Hound of the Baskervilles, Adventure of the Engineer's Thumb (a personal favorite, probably not as good as I remember it), Scandal in Bohemia (introduction of Irene Adler), Adventure of the Final Problem (Moriarty). There are others.

All good recommendations. As a beginner, I'd start with The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes. Even though Study in Scarlett is the first where Watson meet Holmes and they solve their first case, it's not the best story and half of the book doesn't even involve Sherlock. "Adventures" is a really good starting place, with many of the best stories.

And if you don't feel like reading any of them, the Granada TV series is almost word for word faithful to the stories, featuring excellent performances by Jeremy Brett and David Burke. You can probably see a few of the clips on YouTube.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I'm reading a sample on amazon right now from a collection of them. Thanks for the reccomendations!