Well again, i leave it up to you, but i think it could possibly help you understand my points on certain issues.
I dont see how any parent could properly school their child in love if their child has never felt it before.
YOu school your child on behavior, on what is right and wrong. And while it is not romantic love Clark certainly knows the love of his parents and knows his love for his parents. By what you're saying, no one knows how to act until they are in love. That is simply not true. People learn how to act as they grow up and develop, not only by trial and error.
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Again, i can understand him not revealing his identity to Lois, it would put her in mortal danger, and his secret in great danger.
ACtually she's in mortal danger as being Superman's girlfriend, and much safer as Clark Kent's girlfriend. That's why it never got serious in the comics between them pre-Crisis.
Again, I just think he made a mistake, doesnt make him right, but by god he pays for the mistake done you think?
More significantly, Lois, RIchard and Jason pay for it too. And that is the problem. It's not a mistake that only affects him, it's a mistake that hurts the people he cares about.
Well IMO it IS suggested by Superman's face when he first looks upon Jason as his son. There is happiness, then confusion (A look as if to say,'How could this have happened?') and then utter happiness (as if he is saying 'It doesnt matter how it happened, i have a son, i am not alone anymore!')
That's a lot to suggest. I still see that scene as scene of bittersweetness. Hence using JOr-El’s bittersweet speech from S:TM.
I also think it's incredibly shallow to have SUperman think that having a child is all about himself as opposed to being about the child. It just suggests again that Superman is thinking of himself first and NOT his loved ones, those that should come first.
Again it just a case of difference taste's IMO.
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I agree, but i still feel Lois is just as responsible as Superman.
But she didn’t leave for 5 years w/o saying goodbye. What I’m saying is that the definition of responsibility is not using contraception, but rather only entering into a sexual relationship if you are able to put the other person and the potential fruits of that relationship first. Just b/c you used contraception doesn’t mean you acted responsibly. Maybe you lowered the risk of pregnancy but you did not eliminate it nor did you eliminate your responsibility.
Again, I disagree, by taking the time out to apologise to Lois and to make sure he doesnt make the mistake again, he rectifies his mistakes, which is far more noble than ignoring them or turning back time IMO.
I think it is shortsighted to say that he rectified his previous mistakes. His mistakes in SR are unrectifiable. The most he can do is try to atone for them and demonstrate he’s learned that he was wrong and not do the same thing again. He can never recover those 5 years he was gone from Lois and Jason, he can never go back and make sure Jason knows from the beginning who his real father is.
Donner/ Lester provided a way to erase the consequences of his mistakes, b/c it was in character for Superman to be able to fix anything. He didn’t ignore his mistakes in either S:TM or SII. Turning back time might be a bad plot device, but it shows that Superman was willing to do anything to save Lois and reverse the effects of the Earthquake. It is far more noble to completely erase the pain and death that was casued in S:TM and SII than to have to see your mistakes hurt the woman you love and your son.
On the one hand i do also, but then again, if he had, i wouldnt have got the drama i enjoy so much in SR.
I felt little to no drama. I never expected Superman to end up w/ Lois and Jason and I was never excited by anything.
I do think had he done everything right and STILL he came back to a world and Lois that had moved on then THAT would have been interesting and dramatic.
When it’s portrayed as a series of mistakes he should have known better than to make, it just isn’t interesting.
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Superman WILL be there though, his powers have only just began to manifest, so Superman will be there to guide him.
Only luck has borne this out. There is no way Superman would know this ahead of time. Therefore he should have acted responsibly and acted in a way which showed he cared BEFORE leaving.
Jason will have a similar upbringing to Superman, expect he'll have someone there to explain his powers to him.
And he will always wonder why that person didn’t care enough about him to be there for him and his mother the whole time. And he may not even want Superman in his life at that point, why would he? Superman didn’t care enough to be around for his first 4 years of life, why should Jason want him around now?
The situation is too dysfunctional. Superman is not about dysfunctional families.