WB/DC: It's All Part Of The Plan

[Fresh Prince]

Hey C Lee what list i'm on?....Proably on watchlist?...And lol Phantom Zone...WTH is this Superman now.

 

[Showtime]

Alot of people bash SV, but its really a good show.

Matter of opinion.

Your so awesome dude.

You're not.

 

[Showtime]

Once 'Smallville' is over, then maybe they'll seriously consider it. I personally see them doing a low-ish budget/low-risk theatrical sequel to 'Smallville', just to get over that legal loop hole of having a Superman movie ready by 2011. I mean, they know it'd make a profit, unlike a big budget/high-risk blockbuster.

Theatrical sequel to Smallville?

I wouldn't strap on the black leather cape and spray painted t-shirt just yet, or your costume will disintegrate on your body while you wait for the studio to green light that.

 

[solidsnake86]

^i could just be talking out of my *** right now but if I'm not mistaken wb already has to pay the family since they won those rights back. That would include whats being used in the comics and smallville right now. So why would they green light a movie or even a half ***'d smallville movie in which they would have to spend a heck of a lot more then they could actually be sued.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Matter of opinion.



You're not.

I do not think I was talking to you...Mind your own please.t:

 

[DavidTyler]

Its Byrne's telling of the origin right? I read its plot on Wikipedia. I generally like most of Byrne's ideas and changes to the character. Dont know how good the comic book was though.

Byrne's concepts are solid as rock. He doesn't write characters quite as well as some other writers but you can take the foundation he constructed and go almost anywhere with it.

What Byrne basically did was recapture the magic of the character by going back to basics, stripping away all the added paraphenalia, and re-introducing those elements back in a way that made sense.

If you read MOS with the thought in mind that you're getting to meet Superman and his world for the first time and not so much an Alan Moore type character study, you'll definitely get a lot out of it.

 

[DavidTyler]

A mod can't just arbitrarily put someone on the list. If they feel that someone deserves to be on it...they tell the rest of us, and we then check out his history and decide if they deserve to be on it or not.

Hey everyone... it's very simple to stay off lists.... Just treat each other with respect.

It's that easy


(hmmm... I'm getting bored with my avatar. Time to change up.)

 

[Fresh Prince]

Byrne's concepts are solid as rock. He doesn't write characters quite as well as some other writers but you can take the foundation he constructed and go almost anywhere with it.

What Byrne basically did was recapture the magic of the character by going back to basics, stripping away all the added paraphenalia, and re-introducing those elements back in a way that made sense.

If you read MOS with the thought in mind that you're getting to meet Superman and his world for the first time and not so much an Alan Moore type character study, you'll definitely get a lot out of it.

Maybe Bryne should direct the Superman films.

 

[Morg]

Superman Movies Officially On Hold

If you've been hoping that Warners would try and rush a Superman movie ahead of their 2012 deadline for the character rights, then you're out of luck. A new report suggests that Warners aims to keep the franchise on ice.

Anne Thompson writes that, despite the perceived need to get a new Superman movie in production before 2011 in order to avoid paying penalty to the heirs of the character's creators, Warners are planning to stay quiet on the Superman front for the simple reason that they don't know what else to do:

As the studio is waiting to resolve the legal dispute, there's no movement on the project. [Superman Returns] grossed $391 million worldwide off strong reviews for a genre sequel. But it cost more than $232 million. Warners felt it could have performed better with more action and a powerful villain-and no Superman kid. So Singer was taken off the franchise... [Warner Bros. execs] want to start over from scratch. While Kick-Ass writer Mark Millar did pitch himself (to scant interest), WB in-house faves the Wachowski brothers and their protege James McTeigue were never approached. (It's hard to imagine such hard-R types taking on what one blogger described as the "Big Blue Boy Scout.") The studio is still seeking the right direction. No writers are working on a Superman script. "We're working on a strategy for DC," says one Warners exec. "Superman is the trickiest one to figure out."

Considering Warners have three of DC's most popular comic writers consulting for the studio on DC-related projects (including Grant Morrison, who wrote the critically-acclaimed, award winning All Star Superman), the idea that the studio can't come up with a direction for the character is kind of mind-boggling, and perhaps points to a reason why Marvel Studios needn't worry about the competition just yet.

well so much for any movie for awhile

 

[Fresh Prince]

^ Duh!

 

[bunk]

well so much for any movie for awhile

Awesome. What is WB allergic to money or something? He's only one of the most well known fictional characters of all time.

 

[Jochimus]

Awesome. What is WB allergic to money or something? He's only one of the most well known fictional characters of all time.

True.

Then again, there's a limit to how many toys you can sell around a character who doesn't use them himself and whose Rogues Gallery includes just one villain that anyone outside of the fanbase is familiar with. Even Harry Potter and Star Wars haven't had those problems.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

So we have official confirmation that the Superman film movement is now dead...


So should this forum close down? There's no Superman movie planned to be discussed.

 

[bunk]

Maybe it's just WB testing our faith. Like that thing god does.

 

[NeoRanger]

So we have official confirmation that the Superman film movement is now dead...

Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but it's not really dead, just stuck. Eventually they'll get around to it. They don't seem to know what they want to do, but -assuming they keep handling the license- I'd say they certainly recognise how much money can be made out of him. All that steamy green paper must have some appeal.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Its comforting to know that DC's major writers are involved in the movies. These guys know their stuff.
As for Millar, isnt he the guy that wrote the acclaimed Red Son? But its one thing to write a comic book, and another to direct a movie. So if anything, he should stick to writing.

 

[green]

Obviously no one does know how they work. Wb's best strategy if they want to settle right now is to make the franchise seem worthless in order to get a settlement then say they are developing a movie which is going to make millions. They could have a few scripts unofficially completed and off the books and when a settlement happens go full steam ahead (best case scenario). Worst case they know they're doing a reboot and they have a plot. I just find it hard to believe that they hired 3 comic book writers all of whom have written, in the process of, or pitched an origin story at some point in there careers and not one has touhed the superman property.

Exactly...
Which is why some of the doom and gloom comments in this thread are ridiculous.

 

[The Batman]

Its Byrne's telling of the origin right? I read its plot on Wikipedia. I generally like most of Byrne's ideas and changes to the character. Dont know how good the comic book was though.

Best thing about it is the art. The story...decent. Superman? Didnt like his "Screw krypton" attitude, or his overlyforced sense of patriotism. they tried too hard on that one.

If i had to choose a version of superman to base a film on, that would not be it.

 

[Webhead2006]

YEa sucks we are still in the same place we have been for awhile now. I wish superman wasnt so troublesome for the studio and dc comics. I wish the legal stuff wasnt a major holdback for them. Then it blows they can figure out what is the right way to go with the character. There is plently of stories, characters with superman that could make a good movie out of.

Also realistically what is more likely option to happen with the legal stuff. the families making a deal with wb/dc with a licensing fee on wb/dc to use all elements. Or for the families to just take what they legally own and wb/dc have what they own and each use those separate elements.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Mark Millar's Superman sounds interesting....Telling his whoel life in a string of films.

 

[Webhead2006]

i agree his idea was interesting dont know if i would be down with it totally myself, but i dont think it probably would have gone over well with the fans.

 

[Spirited Away]

Theatrical sequel to Smallville? I wouldn't strap on the black leather cape and spray painted t-shirt just yet, or your costume will disintegrate on your body while you wait for the studio to green light that.

The upcoming big-budget TV movie -- featuring Hawkman, Doctor Fate, Stargirl, Sandman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Doctor Hamilton, Amanda Waller, a yet-unknown supervillain, the regular cast (Clark/Blur, Chloe/Watchtower, Oliver/Green Arrow, Lois(/Stiletto? - jk!), Tess and Zod), amongst other JLA members, dozens of action sequences, hundreds of special and visual effects, and not to mention fully-realised costumes for the entire cast, including the possible debut of the new Superman proto-suit -- seems to indicate otherwise.

I mean, there is quite clearly an audience for new-SV - Amazon.com and Best Buy completely sold out of Season 8 DVDs on Friday, and both stores have since had to buy stock from rival competitors, because WB can't physically re-issue more copies out of Mexico until mid-December.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

It's not even a TV movie. Literally just two episodes spliced together. That's all well and good for Smallville fans and I'm sure they'll enjoy it. But you're out of your head if you think WB is going to do a Smallville theatrical movie. That ship sailed a long time ago.

And if your going to point to Smallville DVD sales, you can do the same for shows like Dexter, The Sopranos or Law & Order. That doesn't mean studios are going to rush out and greenlight movie versions. Hell Superman Returns sold well on home video. So did The Incredible Hulk. That meant absolutely nothing.

Apples and oranges.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I wish i didnt have to resort to Smallville to see the JSA in a movie/show.

 

[The Overlord]

i agree his idea was interesting dont know if i would be down with it totally myself, but i dont think it probably would have gone over well with the fans.

There is a difference between something that is "interesting" and something that is good. Why would I want to see a movie set a thousand years in the past on Krypton?