WB/DC: It's All Part Of The Plan

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Lead Cenobite said:
The Jason storyline would pick up later on in the series.

You have to admit, it's better than making a sequel to Superman Returns and pretending parts of it didn't happen.
why not?
i think it's great to ignore the awful storyline introduced in SR.

it isn't the problem of donner's influence. it's singer's mindless and stupid ideas. and he totally missed the donner's superman spirit.

a superman returns after missing for a few years. almost anybody who knows superman can come up with an idea better than a hit and run old boyfriend returns storyline.
 
superbaby said:
this is the lamest excuse i'd ever heard & you are buying it. c'mon. get a brain. transitional shiit. STM was almost 30 years ago. everybody are ready to move on and celebrate a new superman movie. however this visionless singer gave us a poorly copy version of STM.

WAKE UP WB!!! singer is as awful as Mcg if not worse than him!

Oh, really?

Then why the **** is Brandon Routh (someone who actually knows SOMETHING about the film) confirming what Brian had been saying all along?



3) He says that Singer will make the 2009 film into HIS own and not be another Donner film.


So, its not a case of me 'Buying a lame excuse, hook line and sinker', rather its you being too foolish to actually look at the facts.

Good job of looking like another typical "OMG! THATS NOT SUPERMAN... SINGER HAS FAILED!" Blind Fanboy.
 
maybe jason will have hes own tv show. called metropolis. and it will be about him growing up.:cwink: :wow:
 
Wesyeed said:
You sound like a smallville fan. :dew:

*Burns with rage*


Funny thing... I actually managed to sit through a full episode of THE TOM WELLING VARIETY HOUR last night without throwing up in my lap :O

Probably because it had the awesome FoS in it most of the time :up:
 
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Why should they forget about SR if they want to make a good Superman movie? They should try to emulate it if you ask me.
 
The Question said:
Well, if they'd gone witha restart, I would have gone with Wizard Magazine's idea for a trilogy .I'm just giving the plots they gave, and adding my own detail. I'm also adding in another movie, making it a fouyr film franchise:


Man of Steel: It's basically Superman's origin story. We start with Clark Kent arriving in Metropolis and getting his job at the Daily Planet. This is followed by several mysterious reports of a flying "Superman" saving lives all over the city. We get a few scenes with Clark talking to his parents, with mention made to how he arrived on Earth. We then see Lex Luthor, billiobare CEO of Lexcorp and genius innventor, taking an interest in these Superman reports. He tries to contact Superman by faking a disaster to draw out his atention. He offers Superman a partnership, saying that they could reshape the world into a finer place. Superman says quite flatly that he is not interested, and it becomes quite evident that their philosophies are very different. As Superman, Clark starts up a rather unique relationship with his partner in the news room, Lois Lane. He comes to he, floating outside of he window at night, and talks to her, using her as his way of getting his voice out to the people (and avoiding any suspicions that may rise if Clark Kent served this role). Lois becomes infatuated with Superman, but their relationship in this is a bit more distant, him serving a sort of gaurdian angel role. Meanwhile, Lex starts setting up several tests for Superman, including faked terrorist atacks and the like, to judge the level of Superman's power. Superman overcomes these obstacles, but ends up bleeding a little bit from one of the encounters. Lex takes the blood sample and has his scientists grow a clone. They succeed, but the creature is imperfect. It is mentally under developed, and lacks any skin pigmentation. Still, Lex orders the creature to kill Superman and take his place. This leads to a massive fight between Superman and his clone, which ultimately results in the clone dying in an atempts to shut down a nuclear metldown, which he and Superman accidentally caused during their fight.

Last Son: Clark begins to try and realy dig into where he came from. He begins looking over his ship, but to no evail. So, as Superman, he taked his ship to Dr. Emil Hammilton, a scientist in Metropolis. Hamilton looks over the vessel, and is soon able to activate it. Clark hears the voice of his father, Kal-El, telling him that the computer program within the ship is modled after his (Jor-El's) consciousness, and is in essence him. Superman begins learning all sorts about Krypton's history and culture from "Jor-El," and begins to reflect on how this effects the humanity that he always felt he had until learning of his heratige. Soon, "Jor-El" begins talking about remaking Earth in Krypton's image. Superman objects to this. Not only would terraforming Earth to be like Krypton's environment and altering the humans genetically to be essentially Kryptonian in nature kill millions, but to reach Krypton's state of near utopian status, which happened after centuries of technological, social, and political developement would require enslaving the human race and forcebly bending them to Kryptonian ways, which would also result in countless deaths. Fearing what "Jor-El" might do, Superman shuts the ship down. However, the ship reactivates itself, and using the technology in Hammilton's lab builds itself a superhuman body. It is revealed that "Jor-El" is in fact The Eradicator, a Kryptonian military defense program. Jor-El coppied a variant of it into his son's ship that was designed to protect Kal-El and preserve Krypton's culture at all costs. Over time, the programing evolved, and is now willing to count mass genocide under "all costs."

Th Eradicator flies to the North Polse, where it begins the terraforming process. Superman follows, and tries to stop the machine. It initially atempts to merely contain Superman, as his programing includes protecting him. However, as Superman proves very dificult to contain, The Eradicator reasons that beating him to within an inch of his life and allowing him to heal while it completes it's work wouldn't be against his programing. Anyway, massive fight insues. It goes up into the upper atmosphere, where Superman defeats The Eradicator by tearing out it's "brain" and throwing it into space. He then flies back to the north pole and ends the terraforming process, which leves a Kryptonian-like structure in it's wake.

Brainiac: A probe in deep space, having taken notice of the actvity on Earth in the previous film, comes to Earth. It locates Milton Fine, a low level telepath/telikinetic and stage preformer, and kills him, taking over his body and altering to better suit it's purposes. It then takes Fine's stage name, Brainiac, as it's own. The probe had been built on the planet Colu, a planet run entire by computers (ala the Borg), to spread the peaceful nature of Colu to other planets. Brainiac goes to Metropolis, wanting to use Lex Luthor's technology, in conjuncture with the Kryptonian technology in the North Pole, to create a means of "pacifying" the human race and then spreading it's influence to the rest of the universe. To help, it creates two superhumans, Metallo and The Parasite, to serve as his workers. It, of course, does not tell them the true nature of It's plan. When Lex becomes aware of what is going on, he contacts Superman, who has already fought Parasite and Metallo twice as they go about stealing technology for Brainiac. Lex and Superman go to the North Pole, where Brainiac is readying to pacify the planet. Lex easily defeats Metallo by shorting out his systems, and Superman finally beats The Parasite, who had constantly been bragging about how superior he was to Superman, by freezing him in the arctic snow. There is then a huge battle between Brainiac and Superman. Superman, however, is unable to defceat Brainiac, only stalemate him, as he soon realizes that the only way to defeat him is to kill him. Lex, however, is fully willing to do this, and shoots Brainiac in the head (it should be noted that Brainiac's powers are completely psychic/energy based, and as such his body isn;t too much more durable than that of a human). Lex then takes Brainiac's body back to Metropolis.

The Elite: Lex, using cell samples from Brainiac's body, creates a team of heroes that he thinks are better suited to save the world than Superman. They are The Elite, lead by street wise British hoodlum Manchester Black. The story follows pretty much follows Action Comics #775, with aspects of Lex Luthor: Man of Steel thrown in to expand the plot. This is very much a Lex Luthor film, and some elements of Lex's backstory, taken from Lex Luthor: The Unofficial Biography, will be mentioned to help flesh out his character. The story ends first with the ending of Action Comincs #775, with Superman defeating The Elite and giving his speech about how extreme methods used to save the world are unnecessairy, and then with the ending of Lex Luthor:Man of Steel, with Lex talking to Superman through his window.

I guess no one liked my idea for a film series. :csad:
 
Mentok said:
Oh, really?

Then why the **** is Brandon Routh (someone who actually knows SOMETHING about the film) confirming what Brian had been saying all along?



3) He says that Singer will make the 2009 film into HIS own and not be another Donner film.


So, its not a case of me 'Buying a lame excuse, hook line and sinker', rather its you being too foolish to actually look at the facts.

Good job of looking like another typical "OMG! THATS NOT SUPERMAN... SINGER HAS FAILED!" Blind Fanboy.

my point is why the hell do we need a transitional movie of a 30 years old movi? why didn't he make it his own first??? the reason is very simple. singer has ZERO idea to make the film. that's why he copied scene by scene, dialogue by dialogue from donner's and added his limited imagination on the sequel of the movie.

btw, what do you get from SR? what exactly singer wanna tell in SR that you understand???
 
superbaby said:
my point is why the hell do we need a transitional movie of a 30 years old movi?
A 30 year old movie that's been in constant TV and Video rotation for the oast 30 years, that's influenced almost every other comic movie adaptaion as well as how Superman has been veiwed since it came out. When the movie is still considered one of the top 100 movies of all time, you don't ignore it.
 
JamalYIgle said:
A 30 year old movie that's been in constant TV and Video rotation for the oast 30 years, that's influenced almost every other comic movie adaptaion as well as how Superman has been veiwed since it came out. When the movie is still considered one of the top 100 movies of all time, you don't ignore it.
don't ignore =/= copy directly.

anyway, as i've said, it isn't the problem of donner's influence. it's singer's mindless and stupid ideas. and he totally missed the donner's superman spirit.
 
superbaby said:
don't ignore =/= copy directly.

anyway, as i've said, it isn't the problem of donner's influence. it's singer's mindless and stupid ideas. and he totally missed the donner's superman spirit.
I Disagree and so apparently did Richard Donner since he gave Singer his blessing.
 
....so did WB as they greenlit Singer's story, the script, and the cut of the movie...

I dont think he missed the spirit of Superman, Donner's or otherwise.

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An arrogant, morose Superman who mopes around ...not because of the thousands of people who died in his absence....or that the world doesn't want his help anymore........but because his girlfriend who he abandoned for 5 years without warning is going out with someone else. What to do? Reveal the truth....nah!!!....just spy on Lois and mock her "you shouldn't smoke"..."the recorder is in your back pocket"...."he can't let you fly like this". Yeah, that's the spirit of Superman. :up:
 
JamalYIgle said:
See, that where you guys have it wrong. Lex luthor's plan isn't about real estate. it's about controlling kryptonian technology. Building new Krypton was going to be his first step.
Lex wanted to build a base from which he would concour the world.

It was not a real estate plan?
So, why did Lex say he'd sell ppl land on New Kripton?
by the way, with all the banks underwater cause of the creation of NK, how would Lex's customers pay for some radioactive NK land?
with seashells?
 
SentinelMind said:
An arrogant, morose Superman who mopes around ...not because of the thousands of people who died in his absence....or that the world doesn't want his help anymore........but because his girlfriend who he abandoned for 5 years without warning is going out with someone else. What to do? Reveal the truth....nah!!!....just spy on Lois and mock her "you shouldn't smoke"..."the recorder is in your back pocket"...."he can't let you fly like this". Yeah, that's the spirit of Superman. :up:

Agreed.
 
Kabuki_Jo said:
It was not a real estate plan?
So, why did Lex say he'd sell ppl land on New Kripton?
by the way, with all the banks underwater cause of the creation of NK, how would Lex's customers pay for some radioactive NK land?
with seashells?
Do you know the story of Prometheus, of course you don't. Prometheous was a god who stole the power of fire from the other gods and gave it to man, in other words he gave us technology.
Imagine, Vehicles, weapons enitre continents all grown. I will have advanced alien techology, thousands of years ahead of anything they could throw at me. BRING IT ON!
 
SentinelMind said:
An arrogant, morose Superman who mopes around ...not because of the thousands of people who died in his absence....or that the world doesn't want his help anymore........but because his girlfriend who he abandoned for 5 years without warning is going out with someone else. What to do? Reveal the truth....nah!!!....just spy on Lois and mock her "you shouldn't smoke"..."the recorder is in your back pocket"...."he can't let you fly like this". Yeah, that's the spirit of Superman. :up:

lol. exactly. :up:

may i ask further, what is the theme of the movie? what is the point singer wanna bring across?

where is the truth, justice & hope?

i see the movie offer nothing. no lessons learned. no points wanna make. all the characters stay stagnant & have no progress from the begining to the end. it's pretending to be something but is nothing.

if there was one thing, it would be 'the son becomes the father, the father the son.' ???
 
superbaby said:
lol. exactly. :up:

may i ask further, what is the theme of the movie? what is the point singer wanna bring across?

where is the truth, justice & hope?

i see the movie offer nothing. no lessons learned. no points wanna make. all the characters stay stagnant & have no progress from the begining to the end. it's pretending to be something but is nothing.

if there was one thing, it would be 'the son becomes the father, the father the son.' ???
The lesson was life goes on, things change and you have to make the best of what you have. he went back to krypton to find a connection to his people, and discovered he had one right here on earth.
 
JamalYIgle said:
Do you know the story of Prometheus, of course you don't. Prometheous was a god who stole the power of fire from the other gods and gave it to man, in other words he gave us technology.
Imagine, Vehicles, weapons enitre continents all grown. I will have advanced alien techology, thousands of years ahead of anything they could throw at me. BRING IT ON!

LOL!:D
 
JamalYIgle said:
The lesson was life goes on, things change and you have to make the best of what you have. he went back to krypton to find a connection to his people, and discovered he had one right here on earth.

I wonder what you thought of the novel, Jamal.
 
Wesyeed said:
I wonder what you thought of the novel, Jamal.
Didn't read it,mostly because i kew it wasn't from the shooting script and Marv was allowed to take certain liberties.
 
JamalYIgle said:
Didn't read it,mostly because i kew it wasn't from the shooting script and Marv was allowed to take certain liberties.

And it's probably better than returns because of it. I didn't read it either though.

So what was it you guys were saying about the message in returns? Dogs are delicious?
 
Wesyeed said:
And it's probably better than returns because of it. I didn't read it either though.

So what was it you guys were saying about the message in returns? Dogs are delicious?
So if you didn't read it you shouldn't complain about it.
 
JamalYIgle said:
The lesson was life goes on, things change and you have to make the best of what you have. he went back to krypton to find a connection to his people, and discovered he had one right here on earth.
wonderful. just perfect for the teenage soap opera tv series like Smallville & One Tree Hill.
 
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