What are your complaints? What would you do differently? *SPOILERS*

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No end credits scene in a superhero movie should be punishable by death.
Marvel has us too well trained now, virtually the entire cinema waited through a SEA of credits and got noting. I would have taken anything, ANYTHING!
You could have had a scene (shot from behind the character) of a bald man watching tv reports of Superman. Tease Lex, tease Brainiac, heck have Superman eating Shawarma.
 
This film was trying to help us get out that marvel end-credit dependency we now have. This was a public service.

Let us be free from having to actually read endless names in between scenes!
 
This film was trying to help us get out that marvel end-credit dependency we now have. This was a public service.

Let us be free from having to actually read endless names in between scenes!
Well said. :D

One can only pray the DVD/BluRay will help wean us off of 'extended cuts', too.
 
How would Clark save his dad without being seen? That would raise more questions than anything.

Well, Clark can run faster than a speeding bullet, after all, so there is that. Or, the alternative (and this is what that youtube suggests and I forgot about) Clark is the one to save the dog instead of his dad and that's how he gets sucked up into the tornado.
 
Well, Clark can run faster than a speeding bullet, after all, so there is that. Or, the alternative (and this is what that youtube suggests and I forgot about) Clark is the one to save the dog instead of his dad and that's how he gets sucked up into the tornado.

Superman is essentially a lump of metal, moving at super sonic speeds (faster then the human eye to follow therefore no one sees him) to grab someone at those speeds would kill them.

When Superman saves Lois from the helicopter fall (Superman 1) you can see that he slows to catch her or he probably would have killed her.
Saving Pa Kent at super speed wasn't an option.

I get the film was trying to say but **** the secret identity, if my dad is about to be killed and I had the power to save him, nothing would stop me, nothing even my dad's wishes.
 
Superman is essentially a lump of metal, moving at super sonic speeds (faster then the human eye to follow therefore no one sees him) to grab someone at those speeds would kill them.

When Superman saves Lois from the helicopter fall (Superman 1) you can see that he slows to catch her or he probably would have killed her.
Saving Pa Kent at super speed wasn't an option.

I get the film was trying to say but **** the secret identity, if my dad is about to be killed and I had the power to save him, nothing would stop me, nothing even my dad's wishes.

So if your dad had cancer and he signed a do not resuscitate waver. If you could force the Doctors to resuscitate him you would?
 
WOAH, Johnathan kent was there one second, now he's gone? And does anyone know where clark disappeared too?

A week later, oh hey guys, where'd you disappear off too last week?


The film implies that this would result in Clarks exposure plain and simple. For people to undermine the idea that Jon does know that his son has speed(yet) or that clark doesn't know that Jon knows....it's what happens when people have too many preconceptions due the likes of smallville. This would like asking why didn't clark just fly into the tornado and pluck his dad out. I mean he flew at this supposed age in the previous movie right?

Judge a movie for the world it presents, not the world from some other incarnation.

This would
 
Different argument. Inexperienced does not mean dumb or careless. Superman is 33, he's not a teen like Spider-man. He's highly intelligent and has super reflexes.

He's a superhero. There was no "hero", only "super".

You can still do some (seemingly) dumb things when you are 33 such as kill a man. That happens all the time. They clearly illusrated that without practice or experience even a man with super reflexes like Superman can be pretty much embarassed by a military trained equally super Kryptoninan (and an a woman at that). It was more realistic to believe a person who has lived in America (and in Kansas for that matter), a place which believes that one can use deadly force to defend himself and others, would do something regretful such as kill if put in a situation where both his life and that of others were in such eminent danger. I don't even know why people are even questioning that. The all mighty Christopher Nolan actually signed off on that scene in the story.
 
No end credits scene in a superhero movie should be punishable by death.
Marvel has us too well trained now, virtually the entire cinema waited through a SEA of credits and got noting. I would have taken anything, ANYTHING!

You could have had a scene (shot from behind the character) of a bald man watching tv reports of Superman. Tease Lex, tease Brainiac, heck have Superman eating Shawarma.
This is just what Disney/Marvel has indoctrinated people with thinking with their films, but I think it speaks of the serialization and just plugging of the next thing. Films should speak as a finite piece. Never before has it been accepted. Therefore I think no post credit scene is fine. Always.
 
This is just what Disney/Marvel has indoctrinated people with thinking with their films, but I think it speaks of the serialization and just plugging of the next thing. Films should speak as a finite piece. Never before has it been accepted. Therefore I think no post credit scene is fine. Always.
i agree!
 
1. If krypton was dying and they had knowlege of planets they could be gods on, why didnt more kryptonians go to earth 20,000 years ago?

2. If our solar system makes kryptonians gods, why are they dead on the scout ship? They should have become invulnerable once they entered the solar system. The whole scout ship thing is ******ed period.

3.Why doesn't Jor El and his wife go to earth? There should be a legit reason why they should stay behind... There wasn't any real reason. They could have solved this problem by Jor-el Having a last ditch effort to save the planet that was failed by zod.

4.Why Are Zod and Jor El fighting? The world is about to explode, there is no point to it unless they were fighting over some kind of escape plan for their people.

5.The codex? What is the purpose of this? It makes sense that zod wants it so if he did escape, he could recreate krypton in his own vison. And Jor El steals it and puts it into Kal's blood for what purpose?

One might say the end game is for Kal El to find the secret in his blood and rebuild Krypton on Earth... Well isnt that EXACTLY what Zod Wants?
What is the purpose in the end for thier fight? Is this about who gets to lead? WEAK!

6. I get that Zod is Programmed to save his people, but once he is on earth he is a GOD. Why would he want to populate the world with other people just as powerful as him?

Zod or Faiora says Kryptonians have no morality? Is this true?
If it is, Zod should have no moral obligation to his people.BULLSHI!T!

7. How does everybody not know that clark is superman? There was too much evidence in play here and no effort to make it the least bit ambiguous or subjective.

8.How many millions of PPL died in Metropolis while Superman went to destroy that thing in the ocean? Supes was marginally heroic compared to how he is in the comics, tv or movies. This is unexcusable.

9. Superman was the reason all this destruction happend, how is he not Americas most wanted?


10. Pa Kents death, could have been avoided, not too keen on it. I can live with it though.

11.Killing Zod? Had to be done, the fight would have been endless... I don't have a problem with that. But I cans see that after ALLL of the HUGE PLOT HOLES- and I've only listed a few, Killing Zod is the straw that broke the camel's back.


I think there are alot of poorly explained or poorly concieved ideas in this movie, especially with the realistic approach they took. In a fantasy based movie you could take bigger leaps, but when you are trying to ground a movie with more realism and sci fi- you have to do a better job to make it make sense.

I give this movie a 7 out of 10 mostly for the spectacle.

If I were to grade the script it would be a D+... Almost sastisfactory
 
I couldn't stand how heavy handed the Jesus metaphors were. Had all the subtlety of a freaking chainsaw, as one review perfectly put it.
 
This is just what Disney/Marvel has indoctrinated people with thinking with their films, but I think it speaks of the serialization and just plugging of the next thing. Films should speak as a finite piece. Never before has it been accepted. Therefore I think no post credit scene is fine. Always.


Well, I'm one of the sheep who still wants to see an after credit scene.
Baaaaaa!!
*chews grass*
 
No. It's about time they learn how to tell a story properly. They want to hint the next villain? Do it IN the movie.

The only time I stayed for a end credit scene was in Iron Man Three, because I was forced to. Funny thing, that scene was about Dr. Banner listening to Tony Stark story and falling asleep, which was kind of what happened to me.
 
No. It's about time they learn how to tell a story properly. They want to hint the next villain? Do it IN the movie.

The only time I stayed for a end credit scene was in Iron Man Three, because I was forced to. Funny thing, that scene was about Dr. Banner listening to Tony Stark story and falling asleep, which was kind of what happened to me.

It's not 'improper' story telling. They're just fun, inconsequential easter eggs for the fans who care to sit through the credits and want a little hint at what's next. And they're successful, considering how most people know to stick around in superhero films now.
 
No. It's about time they learn how to tell a story properly. They want to hint the next villain? Do it IN the movie.

The only time I stayed for a end credit scene was in Iron Man Three, because I was forced to. Funny thing, that scene was about Dr. Banner listening to Tony Stark story and falling asleep, which was kind of what happened to me.

Each to their own but I like after credit scenes and also after credits scenes are the best thing to ever have to a special effects grunt in that there is a teeny tiny chance their name will be read as people patiently sit through the credits.
 
It's not 'improper' story telling, get your nose out of the air. They're just fun, inconsequential easter eggs for the fans who care to sit through the credits and want a little hint at what's next. And they're successful, considering how most people know to stick around in superhero films now.

If they "just fun" and "inconsequential" then they might as well be improper story-telling. You care about the success of them? That's a different story.



Each to their own but I like after credit scenes and also after credits scenes are the best thing to ever have to a special effects grunt in that there is a teeny tiny chance their name will be read as people patiently sit through the credits.

That's what DVD's are for.

The only time a end credits scene worked and was actually funny was in "Airplane."
 
Oh please..trying to spin Marvel's end credits scenes into something negative is laughable. They started it in IM1 as a little nod to their die hard fans and it just happened to work so well, it seeped over into the general audience and became a staple of their movies. It has nothing to do with 'storytelling' or 'indoctrination/serialization' or whatever the hell else you choose to call it. Its just lil something extra for a hardcore fanbase who seem to love the idea.
 
T"Challa;26157799 said:
Oh please..trying to spin Marvel's end credits scenes into something negative is laughable. They started it in IM1 as a little nod to their die hard fans and it just happened to work so well, it seeped over into the general audience and became a staple of their movies. It has nothing to do with 'storytelling' or 'indoctrination/serialization' or whatever the hell else you choose to call it. Its just lil something extra for a hardcore fanbase who seem to love the idea.

It's not just the hardcore fans that like it. As I said, the vast majority sat through the credits of MoS, how many of those people were Superman/Marvel/Superhero fans? 50%? 60%? The general audience now expect an end credits sequences not just the fans.
 
I want less ending credit scenes. I want the continuity trend to stop completely. But that's just me!
 
T"Challa;26157799 said:
Oh please..trying to spin Marvel's end credits scenes into something negative is laughable. They started it in IM1 as a little nod to their die hard fans and it just happened to work so well, it seeped over into the general audience and became a staple of their movies. It has nothing to do with 'storytelling' or 'indoctrination/serialization' or whatever the hell else you choose to call it. Its just lil something extra for a hardcore fanbase who seem to love the idea.

Trying to spin Marvel's end credit scene into something necessary is laughable.
 
T"Challa;26157799 said:
Oh please..trying to spin Marvel's end credits scenes into something negative is laughable. They started it in IM1 as a little nod to their die hard fans and it just happened to work so well, it seeped over into the general audience and became a staple of their movies. It has nothing to do with 'storytelling' or 'indoctrination/serialization' or whatever the hell else you choose to call it. Its just lil something extra for a hardcore fanbase who seem to love the idea.

Hopefully, that's where it stays. :O
 
Trying to spin Marvel's end credit scene into something necessary is laughable.

Point me to where i said it was necessary. I said it's just something for Marvel fans. Those scenes don't add anything to the movie that just ended. Its just an extra funny scene or something that teases their next movie,pretty much like a teaser trailer. Yeah, god forbid a movie studio tries to give a little something extra back to its core fanbase thats pretty much responsible for its success. :whatever:
 
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