The Dark Knight Rises What Do You NOT want to see in Batman 3?

[TheBatman072]

Calendar Man is dumb.

Calendar Girl makes so much more sense.

 

[ALP]

Agreed, Calendar Man could be done really well. They'd just have to make sure it wasn't a silence of the lambs rip...

Agreed. But he's only like Lecter when he is n Arkham. If he's ever in a film I think he should be more threatening as well. He slays on holidays as opposed to petty crimes.

 

[Wesley Dodds]

I don't want them to keep TDK's Bat-voice... He sounded like a really angry,hungover Stevie from Malcolm In The Middle in certain scenes...

 

[Wesley Dodds]

Agreed. But he's only like Lecter when he is n Arkham. If he's ever in a film I think he should be more threatening as well. He slays on holidays as opposed to petty crimes.

I think if they're gonna do Calendar Man (which they won't), it sorta HAS to be incarcerated, Long Halloween Calendar Man... That's the only way he really works.

 

[goh78]

This.

And just because during the conversation between Ra's and Bruce in Wayne Manor, it made it sound like Ducard just became the successor. And, in a way, it can also deal with how there is always a living Ra's al Ghul leading the LoS without a usage of the Lazarus Pit plot device.

Sorry to go off topic here, but it seems you misunderstood what he was saying. Ducard was always Ra's; Ken Watanabe was a decoy to "conceal his true identity" as Bruce said. That's why Neeson says "you burned my house and left me for dead"..."me" being Ra's.

EDIT: Next time I'll read the rest of the topic before replying...just noticed the discussion on Ra's had pretty much ended. Either way, as many have said, I thought it was quite obvious what was going on.

 

[Two-Face]

That's true Ducard was the real Ra's Al Ghul along.

 

[ALP]

To play devil's advocate here...

If the Lazarus Pit is not in the cinema world...then how did Neeson/Ra's "sacked Rome and burn London to the ground" hundreds of years ago?

The only logical answer to that question is that he was refering to the League of Shadows and not to himself personally. And if the League was around hundreds of years ago, that means Ra's was not it's founder. And if the League did not begin with Ra's then there's a 99% chance it won't end with him.

So "Ra's Al Ghul" may not be a name or role of succession, but his position as Leader of the League certainly is.

That question leaves you in a pickle.

 

[Gianakin_]

The only logical answer to that question is that he was refering to the League of Shadows and not to himself personally. And if the League was around hundreds of years ago, that means Ra's was not it's founder. And if the League did not begin with Ra's then there's a 99% chance it won't end with him.

That question leaves you in a pickle.

That may be true, but there is no indication in BB to say that Ra's is the founder of the LoS. Luckily for everyone, BB leaves the whole Ra's and LoS deal VERY open.

 

[Mito88]

catwoman

 

[Lead Cenobite]

There's nothing in particular I want to see except I'd rather the next movie not feel like an episode of Law and Order. Way way too bland for a comic book movie.

 

[Wesley Dodds]

catwoman

She could work nicely, IMO. Just emphasise the whole "escalation" angle and focus on the fact that she's a catburglar.

 

[LightningFlash]

catwoman

She could work nicely, IMO. Just emphasise the whole "escalation" angle and focus on the fact that she's a catburglar.

Yes, because when I think of escalation, I think of a cat burglar.

 

[maenalus]

I don't want Batman to stick with the Batpod. I want him to get a new car.

 

[Golgo-13]

I do NOT want Jolie as Catwoman.

I do NOT want yet another person learning who Batman really is; really, this is turning out to be as bad as Spider-Man taking his frickin mask off every chance he gets!

I do NOT want Robin.

I do NOT want the techno Bat suit from TDK. Gives us an upgraded BB bat suit.

I don NOT want that raspy sound effect Nolan added to Batman's voice in the final TDK scene, added anywhere in B3. Cringe-worthy is an understatement.

 

[dulcetpine]

No Robin.

 

[Hole Shot]

I don NOT want that raspy sound effect Nolan added to Batman's voice in the final TDK scene, added anywhere in B3. Cringe-worthy is an understatement.

Give the guy a break, he'd just been shot and fell like 5 stories, you'd have an extra raspy sound effect in your voice too.

I wouldn't mind his voice cleaning up overall. I liked it better in BB, even though it was a bit nasal-ee, I guess, he was more coherent in the scenes where he was talking to Rachel and the rasp only came out when he was trying to intimidate.


And you guys wanting and new suit and new vehicle should be able to sleep well at night. No matter how dedicated a filmmaker is to the artistry and craft, they go into this genre fully aware of the significant income that comes from merchandise.

 

[Wesley Dodds]

Yes, because when I think of escalation, I think of a cat burglar.

Don't be a dick.

 

[LightningFlash]

Don't be a dick.

Don't make a ridiculous comparison.

Escalation in Nolan's universe is regarding the rising freaks, not a normal chick who loves cats.

 

[Golgo-13]

Give the guy a break, he'd just been shot and fell like 5 stories, you'd have an extra raspy sound effect in your voice too.

I wouldn't mind his voice cleaning up overall. I liked it better in BB, even though it was a bit nasal-ee, I guess, he was more coherent in the scenes where he was talking to Rachel and the rasp only came out when he was trying to intimidate.

I'm referring to the scene when he's talking to the Joker, who's hanging upside down. He hadn't been shot or fallen at that point.

 

[Hole Shot]

I'm referring to the scene when he's talking to the Joker, who's hanging upside down. He hadn't been shot or fallen at that point.

Well then you have said the scene where he's talking to the Joker while hanging upside down, not the final scene.

 

[Brother Jack]

Don't make a ridiculous comparison.

Escalation in Nolan's universe is regarding the rising freaks, not a normal chick who loves cats.

Escalation refers to costumed criminals, which Catwoman is. Selina Kyle isn't a normal chick who loves cats any more than Bruce Wayne is a normal guy who loves bats.

 

[LightningFlash]

Escalation refers to costumed criminals, which Catwoman is. Selina Kyle isn't a normal chick who loves cats any more than Bruce Wayne is a normal guy who loves bats.

Catwoman is a cat burglar taken too far; that's pretty much her story in one phrase. And she would also be a waste of time and space in the third film. Or at least shown in Batman Returns and B:TAS. If you prefer the prostitute version, then...well, that gives no excuse either; that still would be stupid in a Nolan film.

And Wayne doesn't love bats, he fears them; hence when he says it's time for people to share his fear or something like that in Batman Begins.

 

[Brother Jack]

Catwoman is a cat burglar taken too far; that's pretty much her story in one phrase. And she would also be a waste of time and space in the third film.

How is that, in essence, any different than any other masked villain?

And Wayne doesn't love bats, he fears them; hence when he says it's time for people to share his fear or something like that in Batman Begins.

It's still a fixation, a motif.

 

[LightningFlash]

How is that, in essence, any different than any other masked villain?

We need strong finishers to end the trilogy. We need more "freaks" in this film to show how Batman is needed, when in reality a police officer could handle Catwoman. She's a lover of cats wearing leather and using a whip as with Batman, at least he's using military-rejected weapons and vehicles.

And the whole "cat" and "bat" thing just won't work out, imo. The third film shouldn't feel like a nursery rhyme.

It's still a fixation, a motif.

It's far different than Catwoman's perspective though.

 

[Brother Jack]

We need strong finishers to end the trilogy. We need more "freaks" in this film to show how Batman is needed, when in reality a police officer could handle Catwoman. She's a lover of cats wearing leather and using a whip as with Batman, at least he's using military-rejected weapons and vehicles.

We can have freaks along with Catwoman, in fact Catwoman would be seen as one of the freaks. Not as dangerous and psychotic, but still indicative of how much Gotham has changed. And I think the police will have enough on their hands with Batman being a public enemy and the criminal element going to a new level (which includes Catwoman).