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A movie with Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman bombing? What nonsense is this?
The following is what happened:
Critics, especially in this world of extremes: love/hate, no middle ground.
Word of Mouth, being like/dislike, again in this world of extremes: no middle ground.
I'll disagree with your first two points; both the critics and the word of mouth did have middle ground. In fact, that's pretty much all they had.
The overwhelming response was "It's OK; not good, not bad, just OK".
That's just not enough to get people to shell out $20.
Two weeks after Thor, should've been released probably in December; specially the 1st, away from Thor, slightly away from Coco, but more importantly, two weeks before Star Wars. More breathing room. IT COULDN'T RELEASED IN 2018. THAT WAS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.
I know its all DC, and its all under one umbrella, but when you talk about Justice League, you are talking about Zack Snyder.
People were willing post BvS to see Suicide Squad, cause it was something different and maybe had likable stars the general audience wanted to see.
People were more than willing to go see Wonder Woman over and over again, that movie was a record breaking smash. A lot of that had to do with positive word of mouth, great visuals, a story that people felt like they wanted to be part of opening weekend.
Justice League was the third film of a trilogy, a Zack Snyder trilogy.
On Man of Steel he divided a lot of people. On Batman v Superman, that division just grew larger, plus the fact he systematically got so many things wrong about characters people knew. Its not like Snyder made a Martian Manhunter movie and ****ed up his character, nobody would really care for the most part, cause not enough people know about MM like that.
Justice League was the effects of two previous movies and a general audience that was like, "I dont need to see this right away." Also doesnt help that DC been plagued with the 'directors cut' bug of telling audiences the movie you pay nearly 20+ bucks to see, half the time isn't the full movie, youll get that on home media.
JL could of been just okay and made 140+ mill in a time, where it wasnt' the third film from Snyders trilogy.
I'll disagree with your first two points; both the critics and the word of mouth did have middle ground. In fact, that's pretty much all they had.
The overwhelming response was "It's OK; not good, not bad, just OK".
That's just not enough to get people to shell out $20.
The following is what happened:
Critics, especially in this world of extremes: love/hate, no middle ground.
Word of Mouth, being like/dislike, again in this world of extremes: no middle ground.
*BIG IMPORTANCE: Marketing, with no plot being revealed, but more importantly, no Superman meant people thought he wasn't in this AT ALL.
*BIG IMPORTANCE: Poor decisions made by WB: two hour running time, unnecessary cuts of scenes promoted in trailers, as well as those that cause some continuity errors. Humor at the wrong times, Whedon over-tweaking instead of connecting the dots that he was hired to do. The knowledge and high call for extended cut during opening weekend.
Two weeks after Thor, should've been released probably in December; specially the 1st, away from Thor, slightly away from Coco, but more importantly, two weeks before Star Wars. More breathing room. IT COULDN'T RELEASED IN 2018. THAT WAS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN.
Visual appealing: regardless of what people say, if it looks good, they'll see the movie. People have said, visually, JL didn't look good. Cheap/meh were the reactions.
Sequel to BvS: because of what happened with BvS, JL had high stakes to make up for it. But the studio interferences and the demand for an extended cut shows that WB didn't learn any lesson.
I know its all DC, and its all under one umbrella, but when you talk about Justice League, you are talking about Zack Snyder.
People were willing post BvS to see Suicide Squad, cause it was something different and maybe had likable stars the general audience wanted to see.
People were more than willing to go see Wonder Woman over and over again, that movie was a record breaking smash. A lot of that had to do with positive word of mouth, great visuals, a story that people felt like they wanted to be part of opening weekend.
Justice League was the third film of a trilogy, a Zack Snyder trilogy.
On Man of Steel he divided a lot of people. On Batman v Superman, that division just grew larger, plus the fact he systematically got so many things wrong about characters people knew. Its not like Snyder made a Martian Manhunter movie and ****ed up his character, nobody would really care for the most part, cause not enough people know about MM like that.
Justice League was the effects of two previous movies and a general audience that was like, "I dont need to see this right away." Also doesnt help that DC been plagued with the 'directors cut' bug of telling audiences the movie you pay nearly 20+ bucks to see, half the time isn't the full movie, youll get that on home media.
JL could of been just okay and made 140+ mill in a time, where it wasnt' the third film from Snyders trilogy.