What the black suit SHOULD look like!!

[jusblaze21]

It should look like what Raimi wants it to look like.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

It should look like what Raimi wants it to look like.

why leave it up to raimi on what it should look like, i mean this is a history in the comics ot het suit already, why should he just dismiss that work and do what every he wants with it.

 

[Spydey_27]

well, Sam Raimi has made his position known on his love for the Spider-Man franchise. I'm sure that his Venom will be a combination of what looks good in reality and what's believeable for the storyline.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Do you realize how badly you contradict yourself here, and how hurtful you are to your own argument. You aren't listing examples of the movies staying faithful to the comics even though they dont have the right reason. You're listing examples of differences from the comics, like a character wearing a different suit. You defend a change of costume on Green Goblin but not on Venom?

I think the symbiote is going to kind of merge with his red and blue costume, turning it into a black version of itself (perhaps with a white spider). It wouldn't make sense for it to take on this new design out of nowhere.

But honestly, I think we really need to wait until we get a good, clear shot of this new suit before we make any judgments. I mean, we saw a hazy Daily Bugle photo, some shots of Tobey with the suit underneath his clothes, and the shot in the rain, which you can't see the logo on. Let's wait for the teaser or maybe comic-con footage to really judge.

I wasn't defending the goblin costume or any of the other changes I was stating, they were merely examples. I was making the point that, obviously, the producers do NOT need reasons from the comics to change something. I personaly didn't like the changes I listed, I was just showing that they can have changes without them being linked to the comics.

Others were saying you couldn't have the black suit because the comic reason couldn't fit in the movie, and I was saying you DON'T have to have the comic reason in the movie to have something be there.

 

[turbotwotone]

well, Sam Raimi has made his position known on his love for the Spider-Man franchise. I'm sure that his Venom will be a combination of what looks good in reality and what's believeable for the storyline.

I agree.

 

[Chris Barnes 01]

well, Sam Raimi has made his position known on his love for the Spider-Man franchise. I'm sure that his Venom will be a combination of what looks good in reality and what's believeable for the storyline.

Well said, Spydey_27, and welcome to the boards.

Stick a fork in me, I'm done!

Animated Spider-Man of the 90s

 

[Matt Murdock]

well, Sam Raimi has made his position known on his love for the Spider-Man franchise. I'm sure that his Venom will be a combination of what looks good in reality and what's believeable for the storyline.

he loves the franchise not the character or the story. thats evident by his 1st movie where he didnt kill gwen stacey or introduce her or her father.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

well, Sam Raimi has made his position known on his love for the Spider-Man franchise. I'm sure that his Venom will be a combination of what looks good in reality and what's believeable for the storyline.

I don't get why they feel a need to "make it realistic" I mean it a comic book movie about a guy who gets bit by a radioactive spider, why should it have to be believable, as long as the set it up good and introduce it right people will get it, what so hard to understand about an alien symbiote suit

 

[Spydey_27]

he loves the franchise not the character or the story. thats evident by his 1st movie where he didnt kill gwen stacey or introduce her or her father.

I understand your point superfan. But keep in mind, Sam Raimi is trying to compress 44 years of storylines into an hour and a half movie. He's gonna pick and choose pieces that fit in with the "flow" of the story that he is trying to tell. And of course (as we see evidence of on these boards) there's going to be things that any of us, SM fans or not, aren't going to like. I didn't like the GG's mask. I didn't like the fact that he didn't make the spider that bit him radioactive. I didn't like the fact that he didn't give spidey web shooters. But it all worked out in the end in my opinion. And to say that he doesn't care about the character or the story is just false. He wanted to direct this film because of his love for spider-man...but we're all entitled to our opinions

 

[Spydey_27]

I don't get why they feel a need to "make it realistic" I mean it a comic book movie about a guy who gets bit by a radioactive spider, why should it have to be believable, as long as the set it up good and introduce it right people will get it, what so hard to understand about an alien symbiote suit

I agree with you 100% fan83. That's like the movie Van Helsing. My wife thought that it was completely "over the top". But I said "it's a movie about vampires, werewolves, and frankenstein. What do you want it to be?" But I think that most marvel fans will agree, based on the "Hulk" fiasco, that you still want your characters to look like they could be real. Know what I mean?

 

[Spydey_27]

Well said, Spydey_27, and welcome to the boards.


Animated Spider-Man of the 90s

TY Chris

 

[Logan Howlett]

I heard that there has already been a pic released of Venom, that it has been baned. If anyone poses said pic, could you send it to me through PM or e-mail [email protected]

 

[javi1024]

I don't get why they feel a need to "make it realistic" I mean it a comic book movie about a guy who gets bit by a radioactive spider, why should it have to be believable, as long as the set it up good and introduce it right people will get it, what so hard to understand about an alien symbiote suit

because these arent necessarily just movies about a superhero fighting monsters, its more about a young man whose given special abilities and how he uses them when the city is in danger and how they have changed his life. they need to make the story/characters relatable, especially to those who never read a comic, and theyre dealing with real actors and filming new york city. aside from spiderman and the villains, the movie is very grounded to "reality". so some things about character clothes, origins, appearance, etc. have to be altered to work on film. do u really think it would be a good idea to have spiderman fighting aliens and inter-dimensional demons in the movies just because he does stuff like that in the comics?

and as for the Van Helsing above, in that case the movie is solely about a man who fights monsters, so they can break a lot more rules.

 

[Amm-arD]

Balck costume like the original comics...no webs

 

[Weapon M]

I think that's stupid. That is the venom costume, sony did NOT say tobey is going to be venom, and spiderman ISNT venom anyways, so puttin tobeys head on that costume is like putting tobeys head on a goblin suit, doesnt make sense

That WAS the original black costume. then it became Venoms.

 

[Weapon M]

because these arent necessarily just movies about a superhero fighting monsters, its more about a young man whose given special abilities and how he uses them when the city is in danger and how they have changed his life. they need to make the story/characters relatable, especially to those who never read a comic, and theyre dealing with real actors and filming new york city. aside from spiderman and the villains, the movie is very grounded to "reality". so some things about character clothes, origins, appearance, etc. have to be altered to work on film. do u really think it would be a good idea to have spiderman fighting aliens and inter-dimensional demons in the movies just because he does stuff like that in the comics?

and as for the Van Helsing above, in that case the movie is solely about a man who fights monsters, so they can break a lot more rules.

if you dont like the Spiderman Comic book stories, then dont watch the movie. Cause the movie is SPIDERMAN movies. So, they are going to and should be loyal to the material that made it big enough to become a movie in the first place.

They wont make the same mistake. We all know a guy crawlin walls is fantasy anyways.

The material is vital. Changing it to make it more ''appropriate'' for the movies is just like it's selling the itself out.

 

[chaseter]

It should look like my manip...enjoy!

 

[trustyside-kick]

That is an awesome manip.

 

[chaseter]

I changed a few things...this is still what I want the black suit to look like.

 

[trustyside-kick]

What differences were made? I can sort of tell the suit looks lighter...more gray than black I guess is what I mean.

 

[chaseter]

What differences were made? I can sort of tell the suit looks lighter...more gray than black I guess is what I mean.

I changed his eyes and cleaned up the Spider emblem.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Balck costume like the original comics...no webs

why leave it up to raimi on what it should look like, i mean this is a history in the comics ot het suit already, why should he just dismiss that work and do what every he wants with it.

Both of you look at what I am about to quote...this is why:

The only reason the suit looks like it does in the comics is because when Spidey was fighting in the Secret Wars, he loved the new costume of Spider-Woman. She wore a new black costume. Not a symbiote, she just wore a regular black costume that Spidey loved. When he found the symbiote, it read his mind and made the costume look like Spider-Woman's. That's the reason it's black. The symbiote can look like anything, it happened to be black because simply because Spidy loved the costume Spider-Woman was wearing.

Guess what, there is no secret wars and no Spider-Woman in the movie. There is no reason for the movie black costume to look like it does in the comics. Since there is no back story like the comics, Sam Raimi had to come up with something else. On could theorize that there is no reson at all for the costume to be black, it could look just like his normal costume. But everyone would go ape if it was just his normal costume. Sam made it black and look like the regular costume. A good compromise.

So for everyone who wants it like the comics. Do some reasearch first before you complain.

Unless Spider-Man somehow sees Spider-Woman in the movie you cannot say because he had the suit in the comics he must have it in the movie because without seeing her there would be no design for the black suit in the comics.

 

[Amm-arD]

fair point

 

[trustyside-kick]

It is cool, I'm a pretty big Spidey fan but never read a crapload of the comics like I have with Batman and I did not know about the Secret Wars thing either.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

Both of you look at what I am about to quote...this is why:



Unless Spider-Man somehow sees Spider-Woman in the movie you cannot say because he had the suit in the comics he must have it in the movie because without seeing her there would be no design for the black suit in the comics.

I guess, I should reply, scents to quoted me, ya, I get that venoms suit is suppose to mimic spidey’s suit, and seeing on how spidey’s suit, it just a black version of his old one, it makes scents the it would look more like it. as for the spider-woman thing, well, umm, in later version of the black suit origin or like the animated show version, it still looked like that without having seen spider-woman. though, I get it, I still think if all we get as venom is Topher in the black spider suit, that would be pretty weak, and I am still not to sure about the whole black suit (looking the same) in the first place, it depends on how its introduced and plays out in the movie.