The Dark Knight Rises What the RISES might imply...

[Gianakin_]

Thank you. I would say the ending of "the Dark Knight" remains as a disadvantage for me. It feels incomplete and thus requires a resolution of some sort. It's as if I'm waiting for the third film to be released as it is the missing piece for me.

Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about ESB and RotJ?

I also think a more triumphant tone or mood for the third film would provide good symmetry for me in terms of my overall viewing experience of the trilogy.

Definitely. I'm expecting this to happen.

However having said so. I think the events of the second film have at least given us a fantastic proposition: how does the protagonist become the 'hero' after all with which he's lumbered? If Commissioner Gordon publicly admits the factual circumstances surrounding the death of Dent and his actions; what will be the repercussions for him?

Yes, the events of TDK set up many possibilities, as opposed to other films that have resolved pretty much everything and their sequel (and trilogy ending) feels completely done just to be done. That's not the case with TDKR.

One of Gordon's final lines interests me: "He's the hero Gotham deserves but not the one it needs right now, so we'll hunt him." So in essence, we're going to have the hunted 'beast' become the saviour of Gotham and turn from villain to hero. This will be very difficult to write in a convincing and entertaining manner but nonetheless achievable.

Yup.

I think this is cliché but not trite: I'd like to see Batman be cheered by the public; I'd like to see him be applauded and accepted by the G.P.D and I want to see the bat-signal become a monumental symbol for hope and justice. Surely this is the pay-off the character and audience deserves after viewing the entire trilogy and experiencing all the suffering and loss of Batman?

Agreed, except for the part of the cheering (unless I took it the wrong way. Did you mean Spiderman kind of cheering?)

 

[gdw]

I think what the OP is talking about is well beyond reaching at this point.

However, on a similar note, there are some interesting parallels between Batman Begins and Sodom and Gomorrah.
Of course, especially if it was intentional, it is, in the end, a big FU to the actions of "god" in the biblical S&G story.

http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2008/09/batman-begins-gotham-and-gomorrah-shows.html

 

[Colonel Kurtz]

Rises implies that Batman needs to ask himself "when the moment is right, will you be ready?"

 

[Sith Scotti]

It might imply Batman's first encounter with Catwoman

 

[Lungrocket]

On a literal level, RISES could also imply that Batman gets his back broken (ala Bruce Lee in Dragon) by say Bane and has to learn to stand (aka rise) back up. Both mentally and physically.

Here's a thought, not saying this is likely...but what if Nolan doesn't kill Batman but UNMASKS him to the public, everyone learning Batman is really Bruce Wayne?

 

[Avengers-Report]

It means Catwomen touched him.

 

[JokerLedger]

It might imply Batman's first encounter with Catwoman

 

[Lungrocket]

I think what the OP is talking about is well beyond reaching at this point.

Why is it reaching? I'm not talking literally. I was talking metaphorically speaking. Its a perfectly logical idea of where it could go as a story, with its themes following the actions of TDK. Hope, spirituality, are definite things that could be explored, especially with the connotation the title has... That is not reaching.

No one knows what the story is yet, just what the story has to wrap up from the loose ends of TDK.

But TDKR will explore new themes and a new story, and no one knows what that is yet.

 

[antsman41]

Between Alfred's (Begins) quote and some of the tag lines in the Fan-Art thread, this title is an epic win for the trilogy...

 

[truth]

Why is it reaching? I'm not talking literally. I was talking metaphorically speaking. Its a perfectly logical idea of where it could go as a story, with its themes following the actions of TDK. Hope, spirituality, are definite things that could be explored, especially with the connotation the title has... That is not reaching.

No one knows what the story is yet, just what the story has to wrap up from the loose ends of TDK.

But TDKR will explore new themes and a new story, and no one knows what that is yet.

Biblical?

So Batman will be rising up in the sky...raising his hands to the air.

Nolan's good...but not THAT good.

 

[truth]

It's as simple as pie.

The title means that Batman triumphs at the end of the day to become liked and accepted by Gotham. It's really as simple as that.

 

[baleheadbrasil]

It might imply Batman's first encounter with Catwoman

Hummm...not necessarily with her. t:

 

[Lungrocket]

It's as simple as pie.

The title means that Batman triumphs at the end of the day to become liked and accepted by Gotham. It's really as simple as that.

Nolan doesn't do things that simply. TDK is also alagorical and timely for the war on terror. The Joker is essentially the extremist who cannot be bargained with -- Batman's views were America's idealistic views pre 9/11 that were more black & white.

If you think Nolan doesn't disguise strong themes into his works, then you are mistaken.

 

[Lungrocket]

Biblical?

So Batman will be rising up in the sky...raising his hands to the air.

Nolan's good...but not THAT good.

Not how I meant it at all. Biblical only in alagory. Both Batman Begins & TDK were alagorical. Both dealt with terrorism.

And what is the war about? Clash of faith. Ideals. This isn't something thats so far off the cuff. Not saying it would be aparent. Just something Nolan could potentially smuggle underneath the surface.