Days of Future Past What you didn't like about X-Men:DOFP - Flaws/Critiques

[Smilodon]

I'm sure they were gonna have Rogue being experimented on to explain the power absorption but once they cut Rogue's rescue they made it fully into Mystique. Of course Mystique's ability was meant to represent the overlapping the metal plates of the future Sentinels. The first time I watched it felt a bit jarring because you could tell how Kinberg and co. wanted to integrate Rogue into the storyline but once I got over my displeasure at Rogue being cut the explanation was passable.

 

[Mad Ones]

Well you don't have to watch these movies. I like them for their tone.

 

[Havok83]

No explanation whatsoever as to why Kitty has this new power or why Prof. X is alive

The time-lines make no sense, so the dystopian future is the same timeline as the original trilogy but it's a result of Mystique being captured and experimented on even though she's free in the original trilogy?

Kitty was a teenager with underdeveloped powers in the original trilogy. In the 15 years since becoming an adult, they have since evolved. No real further explanation is needed. They've progressed to the point where she is able to phase a person through time. Its not completely unrelated to her powers, but an alternate use of them.

There's a near 30 year gap between this film and the original trilogy. Mystique escaped at some point and its likely the experimentation that made her so jaded, ruthless and sociopathic

 

[Eddie]

No explanation whatsoever as to why Kitty has this new power or why Prof. X is alive

The time-lines make no sense, so the dystopian future is the same timeline as the original trilogy but it's a result of Mystique being captured and experimented on even though she's free in the original trilogy?

That's actually explained reasonably well in The Last Stand (there's a classroom scene where Xavier talks about transferring consciousness from a dying person to a comatose person, and if you look closely you can tell Patrick Stewart is playing the comatose guy), and the special features expanded on that. Everyone always forgets that for some reason. Don't feel bad, I've seen at least three major reviews bring the same thing up. The filmmakers probably should have refreshed the audience's memory on that one. TLS was some time ago.

 

[DrDoom]

Kitty was a teenager with underdeveloped powers in the original trilogy. In the 15 years since becoming an adult, they have since evolved. No real further explanation is needed. They've progressed to the point where she is able to phase a person through time. Its not completely unrelated to her powers, but an alternate use of them.

There's a near 30 year gap between this film and the original trilogy. Mystique escaped at some point and its likely the experimentation that made her so jaded, ruthless and sociopathic

"I can walk through walls, oh and I can also send people's consciousness through time" That is NOT a natural progression of her power lol

 

[DrDoom]

That's actually explained reasonably well in The Last Stand (there's a classroom scene where Xavier talks about transferring consciousness from a dying person to a comatose person, and if you look closely you can tell Patrick Stewart is playing the comatose guy), and the special features expanded on that. Everyone always forgets that for some reason. Don't feel bad, I've seen at least three major reviews bring the same thing up. The filmmakers probably should have refreshed the audience's memory on that one. TLS was some time ago.

I remember the scene but it makes no sense, mutation has to do with someones genes. Even if Prof X COULD transfer his mind into that body he wouldnt have his powers at all AND he would look different.

 

[Winter Soldier]

A butt shot isn't going to harm any children, plus you can tell when it is about to happen so very easy to avoid. Cover their eyes or take them to the bathroom real quick.

Haha. I doubt you'd want some 45 year old dude exposing his butt to your kids at the playground.

Same deal. Not a big problem though, but an unnecessary thing they could have avoided.

 

[Shpati]

Too much writer's conveniency. I don't mind that, but when a series runs for almost 20 years, I would like them to tie the loose ends. It's just hard for me to look past.

Also, I thought they would finally fix Wolverine. I guess not. Never thought I would see him giving Professor X corny pep talks.

Last edit.. if they were going to use all this conveniency, they should have just booted X3 or some crap, or pretend it never happened.

 

[Havok83]

"I can walk through walls, oh and I can also send people's consciousness through time" That is NOT a natural progression of her power lol

it isn't within the movieverse. What we've had her do before was phase through space. Her powers have evolved to allow her to phase through time as well.

And if you don't want to go with that then its just as easy to believe she developed a secondary mutation.

 

[warhorse78]

Just as i feared, most of the mutants in the future sequences were just card board cut outs with different super powers.

Quicksilver was beyond awesome. But it was contrived and convenient that he wasn't involved with the rest of the story. He's clearly the most powerful mutant in any of these films thus far, yet he's not involved in the battle that will decide the future of the mutant and human race?

Is he? I would still say Phoenix could kick his ass, and who knows what Rogue could do if she touched him during down time. Hell, Magneto could get smart and just summon any kind of metal the kid's got on him, and stop him in his tracks, no?

 

[Eddie]

I remember the scene but it makes no sense, mutation has to do with someones genes. Even if Prof X COULD transfer his mind into that body he wouldnt have his powers at all AND he would look different.

It's supposed to be his identical twin. As for the shared power, the idea that mutants that share genetics can have the same power is established even in the comics. Daken has very similar powers to Wolverine and Polaris shares some of Magneto's magnetic powers. Heck, in the comics clones often have the same powers as the person they're cloned from. Identical twins are basically nature's clones.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Haha. I doubt you'd want some 45 year old dude exposing his butt to your kids at the playground.

Same deal. Not a big problem though, but an unnecessary thing they could have avoided.

Well see that's just creepy in real life situation. In a movie, it is kind of different. But either way they wouldn't be scarred. But like I said, it is very easy to avoid if you bring your kids. It is literately a 10 second scene.

 

[DrDoom]

I thought someone who saw an early screening said that QS was shown in the future and was played by a big star? Also didnt see Nate Grey anywhere.

Did like the nod to the Kitty/Peter relationship

 

[DrDoom]

It's supposed to be his identical twin. As for the shared power, the idea that mutants that share genetics can have the same power is established even in the comics. Daken has very similar powers to Wolverine and Polaris shares some of Magneto's magnetic powers. Heck, in the comics clones often have the same powers as the person they're cloned from. Identical twins are basically nature's clones.

NOWHERE is it said that it's his identical twin lol

 

[Rike]

"I can walk through walls, oh and I can also send people's consciousness through time" That is NOT a natural progression of her power lol

Yes, it is.

X-Men: Days of Future Past shows Kitty — who has the power of intangibility, allowing her to phase through solid objects — suddenly manifesting the ability to project a person’s consciousness back through time. For Kinberg, the answer to the quandary of how to get Wolverine’s consciousness to 1973 lay in Grant Morrison’s seminal run on New X-Men, in which several mutants suddenly gained secondary mutations. “There’s sort of secondary powers that a lot of mutants have, so that gave us a little bit of a feeling of license to expand a character’s powers,” he said. “Given that we saw her phasing with other characters before, we felt like there was a hopefully natural leap that we would make, that in the same way that we’d seen her phase people through space, she could phase someone through time.”

 

[Eddie]

NOWHERE is it said that it's his identical twin lol

It was confirmed to be his twin in the special features for TLS, and he was played by Patrick Stewart. That would make him an identical twin.

The shared paralysis is a load of crap, though.

 

[Havok83]

It's supposed to be his identical twin. As for the shared power, the idea that mutants that share genetics can have the same power is established even in the comics. Daken has very similar powers to Wolverine and Polaris shares some of Magneto's magnetic powers. Heck, in the comics clones often have the same powers as the person they're cloned from. Identical twins are basically nature's clones.

Nowhere in this nor the previous films was it shown that he transferred his mind into that of some non-existant identical twin

 

[DrDoom]

It was confirmed to be his twin in the special features for TLS, and he was played by Patrick Stewart. That would make him an identical twin.

The shared paralysis is a load of crap, though.

Ratner!

 

[warhorse78]

She was cured. So she didn't have mutant DNA. In her case, the cure may have 'stuck', whereas it clearly didn't with Magneto.

That's not true, at the end of X3, it was already showing that the drug was temporary, not permanent. Magneto was already getting his powers back by the end of the movie. By the time this one came out, he had them completely back, there is no reason not to assume that Rogue was the same way.

 

[Snikt]

No explanation whatsoever as to why Kitty has this new power or why Prof. X is alive

The time-lines make no sense, so the dystopian future is the same timeline as the original trilogy but it's a result of Mystique being captured and experimented on even though she's free in the original trilogy?

The Original Trilogy takes place rougly over the course of a year maybe two.

Obviously Mystique escaped at some point between 1973 and the course of the Original trilogy. It's not that hard to understand.

And as far as Kitty's powers advancing...happens all the time in the comics. It's a secondary mutation.

 

[Eddie]

Nowhere in this nor the previous films was it shown that he transferred his mind into that of some non-existant identical twin

It's a post credits scene (with a subtle setup that's super easy to miss) from The Last Stand. You probably didn't see it or forgot about it after the years since that release. I rewatched the movies recently. Look for the classroom scene where Xavier brings Moira and a patient up on a monitor during a lesson. The patient is played by Patrick Stewart.

 

[warhorse78]

The violence wasn't that bad. It was all CGI and bloodless.


But was the ass shot really necessary? Now I won't be able to take kids to the film.

I wish there was an ass shot and a shower scene of Magentor after he was broken out of the Pentagon. X-Men First Class had all of the women walking around in their undies and scantily dressed, I was hoping DOFP would balance that out more by showing the guys some.

Want these movies to do big, show more hot guys baring their chests, that will drive up the BO! Girls love that stuff, and they will come back for repeat business, just look at the Twilight movies, or Magic Mike.

 

[Havok83]

I woulnt say it happens all the time. Aside from Polaris in the late 80s, secondary mutation is a concept that was only introduced about 13 years ago and theres only been a few cases of it

 

[Havok83]

It's a post credits scene (with a subtle setup that's super easy to miss) from The Last Stand. You probably didn't see it or forgot about it after the years since that release. I rewatched the movies recently. Look for the classroom scene where Xavier brings Moira and a patient up on a monitor during a lesson. The patient is played by Patrick Stewart.

Its been 8 years. Of course I saw it. I just watched the post credit scene today. The patient's face was never seen. There was no indication in that film that Xavier had a twin

 

[warhorse78]

It was confirmed to be his twin in the special features for TLS, and he was played by Patrick Stewart. That would make him an identical twin.

The shared paralysis is a load of crap, though.

No where, in any of the movies does it say anything about his twin brother, someone that should have shown up then in First Class. Like it or not, but this is a glaring question for the GA. It would be better if Xavier was just projecting his image into people's thoughts, that would be more believable.