Days of Future Past What you didn't like about X-Men:DOFP - Flaws/Critiques

[Mars123]

I just got back from a second viewing and I think the second act needed something else to break up the story, too much talking and not enough action, I think rogue sequences would have worked wonders, plus a bit more OT would have been nice and we know there are lines that were cut......

 

[neemer5]

- Why didn’t they take Quicksilver with them to stop Mystique?

It was never about just physically stopping Mystique. That is the main reason why they broke Magneto out of prison, is because he was the last person to have influence over her. If they stop her once, she can just make another attempt, just as she did later on at the White House. It was more about changing her mind than physically stopping her.

No. They needed to accomplish both. It wasn't just about stopping Mystique, but Mystique still needed to be stopped. Wolverine, knowing the stakes, would have at the very least recruited him to help stop her. Sure it wasn't all about stopping Mystique, but Quicksilver would have been a huge help.

Also, with people complaining about Mystique's DNA, just think of her as the missing link. Maybe her DNA didn't DIRECTLY make changes, but it led to Trask figuring out how to solve the puzzle, so-to-speak.
Funny thing is, they could have solved it really easily. Quicksilver could have just refused to help after the breakout. The way it sits, it's a plot hole.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

We didn't need to hear Bishop's story because everyone around him is living in this nightmare world too. Whatever happened to him before is irrelevant because he's still alive and all he is doing is trying to stay alive like everyone else. No one needs to be reminded of it.

Now look at Magneto. In every film he's been in he reminds us and the characters around him of his time in the concentration camps. He shows us his tattoo. That's because the war was over and they/we needed to be reminded of the horrors of the past and that history repeats itself. Magneto didn't need do that in this film.

That doesn't work for me. It would've been an emotionally powerful moment and I'm disappointed it wasn't in the movie. Being in a concentration camp is a part of Magneto's character, there would have been nothing wrong with him talking about it and empathizing with Bishop over it. That's like saying he shouldn't talk about mutant revolution or mutant superiority just because he's done it in all of these movies. It's the character.

 

[Spider-Fan]

If the future mutants were more important to the movie overall, I'd agree. But, they were a plot device in order to show the stakes that were in play for the FC cast. This movie wasn't about mutants surviving a dystopian future. It was about stopping events that create a dystopian future through time travel. The heart and soul of this film is Xavier's journey. Not the future mutants and their struggle. That could have been one way to approach the story, and it would have been valid. But, given that wasn't the creative approach, I don't think it was necessary.

 

[Hamill-Joker]

No. They needed to accomplish both. It wasn't just about stopping Mystique, but Mystique still needed to be stopped. Wolverine, knowing the stakes, would have at the very least recruited him to help stop her. Sure it wasn't all about stopping Mystique, but Quicksilver would have been a huge help.

They still knew the time and place, and they had Magneto with them. And while this isn't in the movie, my other thought on it was that Quicksilver is still just a kid in the movie and I don't think they wanted to drag him to Paris with them. The reason it was convenient for using him to get into the Pentagon was because he lived just outside of Washington.

I don't think it is that big of a problem, they needed him to get Magneto out and he fulfilled that duty and he was done.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

If the future mutants were more important to the movie overall, I'd agree. But, they were a plot device in order to show the stakes that were in play for the FC cast. This movie wasn't about mutants surviving a dystopian future. It was about stopping events that create a dystopian future through time travel. The heart and soul of this film is Xavier's journey. Not the future mutants and their struggle. That could have been one way to approach the story, and it would have been valid. But, given that wasn't the creative approach, I don't think it was necessary.

While we disagree on this, I understand what you're saying.

 

[X-Maniac]

No. They needed to accomplish both. It wasn't just about stopping Mystique, but Mystique still needed to be stopped. Wolverine, knowing the stakes, would have at the very least recruited him to help stop her. Sure it wasn't all about stopping Mystique, but Quicksilver would have been a huge help.

Also, with people complaining about Mystique's DNA, just think of her as the missing link. Maybe her DNA didn't DIRECTLY make changes, but it led to Trask figuring out how to solve the puzzle, so-to-speak.
Funny thing is, they could have solved it really easily. Quicksilver could have just refused to help after the breakout. The way it sits, it's a plot hole.

Quicksilver was a kid living at home with his mother and sister, he couldn't just disappear for days/weeks. He was already in enough trouble with the cops, from what his mother said, so they just borrowed him for a few hours. It makes sense within the story.

 

[Herolee10]

Well it's not that I "didn't" like this aspect, but found more weird that there was so much "advanced" technology in existence back in the 70's.lol

I mean I didn't realize that we already had scanners for our hand prints available, let alone the eye scanners that's used to enter Cerebro.

And don't get me started on the past Sentinels.

 

[Mrs Vimes]

Quicksilver was a kid living at home with his mother and sister, he couldn't just disappear for days/weeks.

I don't know if it makes sense that saving the future of the entire mutant race was less important than making sure Quicksilver's mum was not worried about her little boy.

 

[Malik]

Sure it does, what if something would have happened to qs. That could also possibly alter the future in a bad way. And logan was warned about not meddling to much in the past too.

 

[Megaton Sun]

Well it's illegal to transport minors through state lines let alone to another country. "Peter" served his purpose and hopefully he'll join magneto's cause in the next movie.

 

[Alice02]

At the end of the movie (when you stay fter the credits), I was desapointed by the last scene where they show that it's actually the mutants that created the pyramids.
It doesn't make much sense to me.
And did Magneto knew his old himself would betrayed Charles ?

 

[Megaton Sun]

At the end of the movie (when you stay fter the credits), I was desapointed by the last scene where they show that it's actually the mutants that created the pyramids.
It doesn't make much sense to me.

It will in the next movie.

 

[Havok83]

And did Magneto knew his old himself would betrayed Charles ?

No. How would he? That never happened in his original past. He can speculate what he would have done in that situation, but he didn't know

 

[Malik]

Um no, do you know what your future self's actions will be?

 

[SkyIsBlue]

I just got back from a second viewing and I think the second act needed something else to break up the story, too much talking and not enough action, I think rogue sequences would have worked wonders, plus a bit more OT would have been nice and we know there are lines that were cut......

And this is why I've been wanting to see Rogue's scene from the very start.

 

[SoldierofWinter]

Um no, do you know what your future self's actions will be?

That isn't his future self. It's his past self. I'd probably be able to tell what my past self would do, maybe. I like to think that Magneto wanted his young self to totally take control of the Sentinels and use them against the humans.

 

[TeeKay]

Kitty Pride's never before seen powers of sending people's consiousness back in time. Underutilization of the future mutants. The Future sentinels abilities were very questionable. The movie dragged quite a bit in the middle. That's about it, can't think of anymore.

 

[Spider-Ock]

The movie is almost perfect to me. The only criticism I have of it is that James McAvoy seemed kinda wasted. His role wasn't big enough for me. Hopefully he'll play a big part of AOA.

 

[Rike]

^Huh?

 

[speno94]

The movie is almost perfect to me. The only criticism I have of it is that James McAvoy seemed kinda wasted. His role wasn't big enough for me. Hopefully he'll play a big part of AOA.

How can you say that McAvoy was wasted! I don't see that at all. He stole the show along with Quicksilver and was one of McAvoy's best performances in my opinion. One character I thought needed to be worked on was Nicholas Hoult. I don't think he was 'wasted' in the film, but he was just sort of 'there' for most scenes and he Beasts out when the action needs him to.

He didn't get any emotional arc of his own and he shared a few glances with Raven at some points, but it didn't go anywhere. He's the same character at the end of the film as he was at the start, they didn't go anywhere with his arc. Sure he used the serum at the end so the Sentinal couldn't kill him, but you don't know if Hank learnt anything from the events of the film from Charles etc, even if he learnt anything from the whole 'Mutant and Proud' theme in First Class. That's when you know a character didn't get a satisfying character arc.

I hope he gets more of an arc in Apocalypse and I think Dark Beast is the way to go.

 

[GuestStar2004]

DOFP was young xaviers story in many ways so james mcavoy wasn't at all underused

 

[psylockolussus]

The movie is almost perfect to me. The only criticism I have of it is that James McAvoy seemed kinda wasted. His role wasn't big enough for me. Hopefully he'll play a big part of AOA.

Umm what? His role was pretty big in the movie.

 

[Keeria Logan]

Haha. I doubt you'd want some 45 year old dude exposing his butt to your kids at the playground.

Same deal. Not a big problem though, but an unnecessary thing they could have avoided.

My almost 10 year old daughter and her best friend (a boy) giggled at Wolvie showing off his butt. She doesn't watch the Wolverine movies yet because they a bit too brutal. She's used to super hero fighting but I wouldn't let her watch something like "Blade" yet either. Why on earth anyone thought Wolvie's butt should be shown in this movie baffles me. In the Wolverine ones yeah, sure. However I doubt my daughter or her friend really care about afterwards. It wasn't something they talked about after the movie.

 

[Weather Witch]

Needed more Quicksilver. I would have liked to have seen a bit more Future Scenes and maybe Storm could've had meaningful dialogue. Other than that I don't have much to complain about. The movie was great. I am really glad that we are getting some proper female X-Men again in Apocalypse though. In the past the only female character was Mystique (but she is not an X-Men) and in the future there were only Kitty and Storm - and Blink but she isn't an X-Men per se.