The Dark Knight Rises Who do you want for Robin?

[GL1]

I think this thread got derailed around the time that someone said 'Orlando Bloom' which says so much about what ppl know about Robin already. Of course, a male Daktoa Fanning would be ideal, however, such a person may not exist...

My humble findings:

Duane Carnahan: http://www.stuntkids.com/home.asp?page=resume&id=49
This kid is interesting... he's got actual circus acts in his background, he's far more athletic than what I've seen before... he's a little old (almost fourteen already...) but he seems like an interesting pick

Freddie Highmore: http://www.youngstarnews.com/news/041121-001-highmore.htm
Finding Neverland's little boy and the new Charlie (and the Choc Factory)... pretty good with the kid stuff, though perhaps his innocent exuberant roles don't get you, they do show an intense acting skill (critic's choice best actor), he's tweleve, I believe...

Cameron Blight: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1080974/
The little boy from "Birth," convincing as a thirty year old man... not bad indeed... also played young Tommy in "Butterfly Effect"... a bit darker filmography, a very grayson-esque look... my pick honestly... just get a good stuntman...

All of these kids have heavy acting chops and more than their fair share of darkness ability... I think any of them would make a kick-tail Rich Grayson boy wonder... though of course, they would have to cut the camp from Robin's character design just as they did for Batman, Scarecrow and any other costumed character in the Batman universe...

EDIT:
And something about Soren Fulton's http://www.risingstar.to/sfulton.html range and look and bale-ness gets me... I think he'd make a kick-tail Grayson as well... I've seen him overact just a bit, but he's young, perhaps he'll over come it in a couple years, but his range of expression is pretty great for a kid so young...

 

[spdrknight]

I think this thread got derailed around the time that someone said 'Orlando Bloom' which says so much about what ppl know about Robin already. Of course, a male Daktoa Fanning would be ideal, however, such a person may not exist...

My humble findings:

Duane Carnahan: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1553452/bio
This kid is interesting... he's got actual circus acts in his background, he's far more athletic than what I've seen before... he's a little old (almost fourteen already...) but he seems like an interesting pick

Freddie Highmore: http://www.youngstarnews.com/news/041121-001-highmore.htm
Finding Neverland's little boy and the new Charlie (and the Choc Factory)... pretty good with the kid stuff, though perhaps his innocent exuberant roles don't get you, they do show an intense acting skill (critic's choice best actor), he's tweleve, I believe...

Cameron Blight: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1080974/
The little boy from "Birth," convincing as a thirty year old man... not bad indeed... also played young Tommy in "Butterfly Effect"... a bit darker filmography, a very grayson-esque look... my pick honestly... just get a good stuntman...

All of these kids have heavy acting chops and more than their fair share of darkness ability... I think any of them would make a kick-tail Rich Grayson boy wonder... though of course, they would have to cut the camp from Robin's character design just as they did for Batman, Scarecrow and any other costumed character in the Batman universe...

EDIT:
And something about Soren Fulton's http://www.risingstar.to/sfulton.html range and look and bale-ness gets me... I think he'd make a kick-tail Grayson as well... I think he overacts just a bit, but he's young, perhaps he'll over come it in a couple years, but his range of expression is pretty great for a kid so young...

I think Duane Carnahan and Cameron Blight are good choices... Carnahan is a good actor and it only going to get better considering his young age right now and Blight is less but he has proven that for a young kid he can play a dark role. Good suggestions.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Why do you guys want Robin in the movie so bad?

 

[spdrknight]

^ I'm not totally in favor of Robin... I would rather not have Robin but if he is brought in, I want a good representation. The Dark Victory Robin, with a kid playing the role. But I would rather not see Robin though.

 

[GL1]

Why do you guys want Robin in the movie so bad?

I honestly just like teen heroes. But honestly, with the question like that it's really tempting to ask "why do you guys want X in the movie so bad?" replacing the X with Catwoman, Selina, Two-Face, Riddler on any other fan favorite character. I just like the character, don't you have a favorite?

If you're asking why my favorite character is so different from everyone else's, then, well, I'm afraid we're just not that close, GG

 

[JLBats]

I like the character because he represents the more caring side of Batman's quest: He wants to insure that no child ever has to go through what he went through. Through Robin we get a glimpse at the child Bruce could have been had someone been there in his life to teach him how to use his anger and hatred in a better, more useful manner. Robin is Bruce's way of trying ti make things right for himself.

 

[Captain_Obvious]

I like the character because he represents the more caring side of Batman's quest: He wants to insure that no child ever has to go through what he went through. Through Robin we get a glimpse at the child Bruce could have been had someone been there in his life to teach him how to use his anger and hatred in a better, more useful manner. Robin is Bruce's way of trying ti make things right for himself.

but many hate Batman's caring side

 

[JLBats]

I don't mean caring as in Care Bear. I mean rationale, sensible and not insane. He has reasons for what he's doing beyond vengeance, and Robin symbolises those reasons.

 

[DOO BEE]

all my creations resemble my age i love teen heroes, teen vigilantes but robin just seems camp to me, if nolan brings robin i would want a dark and serious story and i only want robin for a one movie deal, he should have a story like a kid who admires batman so much he tries to go out and avenge his parents death but is told by batman not to he does anyway almost saves the day but die and batman is all kick ass hard and heavey, i like that story.

 

[GL1]

all my creations resemble my age i love teen heroes, teen vigilantes but robin just seems camp to me, if nolan brings robin i would want a dark and serious story and i only want robin for a one movie deal, he should have a story like a kid who admires batman so much he tries to go out and avenge his parents death but is told by batman not to he does anyway almost saves the day but die and batman is all kick ass hard and heavey, i like that story.

Hmmm... it kinda goes without saying that any Nolan Robin will be dark and reserved (and un-camp)

I don't like your story though... but I understand your thinking it needs to be changed in order to be uncamped...

Circus... easily darkedned/uncamped...
Parents death scene... easily darkened/uncamped
Adoption... eh... you can't avoid a slight hint of compassion or mercy there, but it can be as dreary as you like
Training... automatically darkened, easily uncamped
Swearing In... you can't get anymore somber or serious
Costume... Easiliy Darkened... see Superscar's stuff in the "Future characters" thread
Dialogue... You can be funny without being light... creepy kids rock, btw...
Action... Who says he needs to fight? Robin is basically Batman's gopher/runner... no camp necessary...

You could have the Robin-dies storyline, but I don't see any need... just like you don't need to give Batman powers to make him more realistically able to kick 30+ goons behinds...

 

[raybia]

Hmmm... it kinda goes without saying that any Nolan Robin will be dark and reserved (and un-camp)

I don't like your story though... but I understand your thinking it needs to be changed in order to be uncamped...

Circus... easily darkedned/uncamped...
Parents death scene... easily darkened/uncamped
Adoption... eh... you can't avoid a slight hint of compassion or mercy there, but it can be as dreary as you like
Training... automatically darkened, easily uncamped
Swearing In... you can't get anymore somber or serious
Costume... Easiliy Darkened... see Superscar's stuff in the "Future characters" thread
Dialogue... You can be funny without being light... creepy kids rock, btw...
Action... Who says he needs to fight? Robin is basically Batman's gopher/runner... no camp necessary...

You could have the Robin-dies storyline, but I don't see any need... just like you don't need to give Batman powers to make him more realistically able to kick 30+ goons behinds...

Great points. Like I said earlier, the template for the Wayne/Grayson, Batman/Robin relationship should be a combination of both Road to Perdition and Indian Jones and the Temple of Doom. There can be some lightheartedness between Bruce and Dick from time to time but keep it dark and keep it realistic. Don't have Robin engage with alot of fighting and when he does make him a somewhat formidable opponent (against common thugs) but not so great that he is essentially just a miniature Batman that is unrealisticly untouchable. He should be used manly for recon work and stays in the shadows, and have more of a Oracle role.

His main purpose in the movie though should be for greater characterization. of Bruce Wayne. Total screen time should be limited to no more than half the movie as Dick Grayson and no more than 1/4 of the movie as Robin.

 

[Riven]

The ONLY downside to having no Robin in Begins and most likely not one in the sequel either is that you guys are gonna keep suggesting names until at least 2009, hopefully til kingdom come...

 

[raybia]

Let me just again mention that I don't have a hard on to have Robin in this series. I think there are PLENTY of stories that can be told without needing Robin included. My suggestions are if and only if WB decides to include the character.

I think doing so would highly jepordize the series.

 

[ironmaidenrules]

Who do you want for Robin?


dick grayson
jason todd(i so need to see him die on screen)
tim drake


you only gotta cast dick grayson and tim

jason can be any little **** since he'll die at the end of beginning of the film and ur supposed to be annoyed by him....shame we are getting too close to the jokers

for that reason i say no robin

batman went find for many years without a sidekick

 

[vibeke_T]

if ya need an actor to stand up to Bale and Michael Cain on screen its got to be Jamie Bell, then again it all depends on the script , for those of you worried about his age sure he can play a younger version of Robin just like Bale did with Batman,.

PLUS I'M SURE BALE WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH HIM SINCE THEY SHARE SOMETHING IN COMMON

He's the only second actor ever to be awarded Outstanding Performance by a Young Actor from the National Board of Review, USA. The first was fellow Brit Christian Bale in 1987 (titled Outstanding Juvenile Performance then).

yeah, it should be jamie bell

 

[chosen1]

If there were going to be a robin in this franchise of batman I would pick for the role Joshua jackson. Now as for robins role in the movie sequel. He would be in costume for a very brief moment. Bruce training him. them fighting crime for a time and at the end of the movie have robin not like the way bruce is fighting crime and end the end of the movie leave batman and quit as robin. To then become nightwing. Its kind of hard to understand but to illustrate this perfectly Look up the Batman superman episode Old wounds. They should have the story go as close to that as they possibly can. please read the story of that episode. and then tell me if you think modifications should be applied or if its a good idea or not.






" The king stay the king." -- D'angelo
THE WIRE SEASON ONE

 

[Motown Marvel]

Evan Peters (just straighten his hair out):

 

[chirs00]

I really think that the character could be added into the series a ways down the line and still maintain an air of realism. He could represent how Bruce might have wound up if he didn't have the safety net of money and support. What if he were to be a little more angry than just spunky? What if he were on the verge of becoming a villain or a threat to Batman?

 

[raybia]

Best reason not to have Robin:

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[BatJeff7786]

Robin should be played by this really good actor that I've found. He's an unknown, and his name is Thin Air. He's such a good actor that he doesn't even need to speak, or be seen on camera. Trust me this guy is gonna be good.

 

[aquiles]

i really think batman is a lot better without robin
i really think that robin should NOT be included

 

[damiandc]

Best reason not to have Robin:

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BWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[deDIKnight]

NO ROBIN NO WAY - NIGHTWING? HMMMMM

Robin's been done and badly - it killed the franchise first time round
Barbara or cassandra cain for batgirl sex appeal sure and have someone cookie but cool - Alyson hannigan for babs or Kristin Kreuk for cassandra

I think it would fit in well with the dark tone of the series if they skipped over Robin's Era and told it in flash back with an embittered NIGHTWING

Now that would be a good story and you have a foil and "equal" for batman

Skeet Ulrich (scream) could've don justice to Nightwing once upon a time

Yeah if your gonna have Dick Grayson AT ALL I'd like to see NIGHTWING
Maybe after a Knightfallesque storyline where Nightwing has to come back to help bruce - hmmmmmm

 

[GL1]

Honestly... if you're going to do ANYTHING with a young Batman, it'd have to be a young Robin (Dick), or a young Batgirl (Barbara) remember... this is Batman BEGINS, not "Batman's been around for years"

 

[Boss]

I like this li'l fella;