The Flash Who is the Man in the Iron Mask?

[Gaultheria]

If it's Hunter's father, then why would he tell Barry that he wouldn't believe him if he told him?

I doubt Barry would believe Hunter about anything now --- which, ironically, makes Hunter's claim true.

 

[hopeless]

Just a thought but what if Jay and Hunter's mother's maiden surname was Garrick?

So whilst Hunter retained his father's surname, Jay took his mother's after all maybe where Hunter was unstable when Jay gained his powers he chose to do good instead?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

If it's Hunter's father, then why would he tell Barry that he wouldn't believe him if he told him?

Zolomon sr is nothing to Barry. He doesn't even know him. I doubt he even knows what he looks like.

I don't know, the show runners made some weird choices before.

Just a thought but what if Jay and Hunter's mother's maiden surname was Garrick?

So whilst Hunter retained his father's surname, Jay took his mother's after all maybe where Hunter was unstable when Jay gained his powers he chose to do good instead?

This could be possible too.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Hoping that it's Jay, and that he's played by a different actor. I like Sears and all but ever since we found out who Zoom is my disappointment was tempered in the hope that we'll eventually see the real Jay at some point, leading them to finally doing the character some justice. With this in mind, I don't want him to have any connection to Zoloman other than the fact that he was his prisoner, ergo I certainly don't want him to have the same face.

 

[Dark Raven]

I doubt Barry would believe Hunter about anything now --- which, ironically, makes Hunter's claim true.

I don't know, the show runners made some weird choices before.

But having Zolomon's father would have no impact at all on Barry or Team Flash, or even the audience.

Next we'll find out it's Zolomon's uncle or his teacher at school.

Zolomon: "You wouldn't believe me if I told you."

Barry: "Try me."

Zolomon: "Ok, it's my second grade teacher."

Barry: "No ****! I can't believe it's him!"

 

[flashpo1nt]

well prior to saying to barry that he wouldn't believe him if he told him, he made a comment about keeping family close.

some fans say they think its wally west, but i can never really tell the skin color but in many clips he looks to be white, not black, so unless there fooling us with a ligher shade of person then to reveal it was a darker wall west in the mask i'm not sure?

it could be good jay garrick from the past, from another earth that zoom found him, when they reveal him i'm sure it will be as a cliff hange for the end of season 2.

on a side note hope they don't start bring in the wally west as the flash story line because tahts way too early....wally didn't become the flash until barry allen died, if they give wally his speed now it takes away from the story line about the barry allen version of the flash, which imo is the most iconic flash version, they need to focus on making barry getting faster and not introducing only speedsters.

 

[Golgo-13]

well prior to saying to barry that he wouldn't believe him if he told him, he made a comment about keeping family close.

some fans say they think its wally west, but i can never really tell the skin color but in many clips he looks to be white, not black, so unless there fooling us with a ligher shade of person then to reveal it was a darker wall west in the mask i'm not sure?

They showed his blonde hair a few eps back. Other that that, the show runners are doing a good job with the lighting indeed, because you really can't tell what his skin color is.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

A forum member posted this on the episode description page. Makes sense when Zoom tells Barry it would blow his mind who it was....

Remember in the first season when Gideon shows the hologram of the newspaper headline from the future saying that the Flash has disappeared? He was captured by Zoom who somehow sapped his powers and put him in the iron mask. The man in the iron mask is future Barry. That's why he was using the arcane skip code to communicate, he knew that past him would figure it out. It's also why he tapped out "Jay Garrick", to warn the team of the traitor in their midst.

 

[Brian Braddock]

A forum member posted this on the episode description page. Makes sense when Zoom tells Barry it would blow his mind who it was....

Hmmm. Certainly puts a whole new slant on this image:-

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=f...hXPzRoKHflfDaYQ_AUIBygC#imgrc=0uJWsIDwtOKxQM:

 

[Dark Raven]

I suppose it could be Barry. But what if it's not Barry from some time in the future but end of season 2 Barry? What if he tries to rescue the man in the iron mask in a couple of episodes time and instead of escaping, Barry is caught by Zoom and put in the iron mask and that's the end of season cliffhanger?

So it would be some kind of time loop. Barry becomes the prisoner by trying to rescue a version of himself. But what started the process originally?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

A forum member posted this on the episode description page. Makes sense when Zoom tells Barry it would blow his mind who it was....

Interesting, that's certainly a possibility, I suppose they could say Zoom sucking out older Barry's power turned his hair white.

For a moment it passed through my mind it could be Black Canary, who is now a meta, as why else would Zoom put the iron mask on them if not to block her powers? But it's obviously a man in the mask.

 

[Dark Raven]

What if it's James Olsen? Then he would be very difficult for Barry to believe because he's from a different earth, looks much bigger and doesn't even have hair.

 

[flashpo1nt]

I doubt its barry in the mask, simply because hunter was obsessed with going faster after taking the velocity 6 which ultimately was killing him, he was dying because of taking so much of it. Only absorbing true speedforce from another speedster was the only way to cure him.

the question is does zoom have his speed plus barry's speed on top of that, because zoom was way faster than barry without the tachyon device, so whether zoom absorbs the speed that would make him faster or was it just absorbing the speed force to heal him....flashes speed plus zooms speed would mean barry would be a turtle compared to zoom, the writers sometimes leave things cut and dry with no explanation.

like the tachyon device, so barry can't naturally get faster, the way i took it was he can only go faster by wearing a device, that's kind of lame.

or does he have to wear it for awhile and then it allows him to store more speed force thus making his speed permanently faster....the guy in the mask is definitely not black so its not wally west...and the hair looks almost dirty blonde, i think its jay garrick, but the real good one, maybe from another earth....in the comics jay garrick was the slowest version of the flash so maybe zoom caught him, took his speed, then used velocity 6 a bunch of times, got sick and realized he needed the flashes speed to cure himself...all i know is they need to find a way for barry to learn to get faster if he's going to face zoom again or anyone with that caliber of speed, the person in the mask will probably be revealed in the final episode of season 2, leaving it to continue for season 3.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trajectory_(DC_Comics)

 

[Alysheba]

My theory is that Iris and Barry will finally get together only to find out that Eddie is still alive. So I say it's Eddie.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

My theory is that Iris and Barry will finally get together only to find out that Eddie is still alive. So I say it's Eddie.

I think it's him as well, they showed being sucked into that worm hole for a reason when he died.

 

[Headliner]

Why would Zoom take Eddie though? They've used Jay's name too much this season for the guy in the mask to not be Jay.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Why would Zoom take Eddie though? They've used Jay's name too much this season for the guy in the mask to not be Jay.

Not to mention Berlanti's comment that they'd never turn Jay into a villain, the real Jay is out there somewhere, the man in the iron mask seems most likely. Zolomon was at the very least omitting a lot of details in "Versus Zoom", if not outright lying about some things.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

Well they just basically told us who it was in tonights episode....

Spoiler

When Barry is talking to his Dad about Jay/Zoom. He said Garrick. Barry's Dad said Garrick is his mother's maiden name. So when Zoom said the main who blow his mind. It's his Dad.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Well they just basically told us who it was in tonights episode....

Spoiler

When Barry is talking to his Dad about Jay/Zoom. He said Garrick. Barry's Dad said Garrick is his mother's maiden name. So when Zoom said the main who blow his mind. It's his Dad.

Definitely seems like the most likely way for it to go, if Shipp is playing Jay that'd be awesome, since I have a hard time thinking of someone more appropriate for the role.

 

[haephestus]

Well they just basically told us who it was in tonights episode....

Spoiler

When Barry is talking to his Dad about Jay/Zoom. He said Garrick. Barry's Dad said Garrick is his mother's maiden name. So when Zoom said the main who blow his mind. It's his Dad.

So, Barry's dad has a twin on Earth 2? Didn't Barry speak to his Earth 2 mum and she didn't mention that her husband was missing. In fact, didn't she think him for tickets for herself and Barry's dad on a cruise to Atlantis or something like that? And wouldn't Earth 2 residents have queried why The Flash changed appearance so dramatically, unless the first Flash kept his appearance hidden behind a mask? Or unless the Shipp version of Jay Garrick is from yet another Earth?

 

[Gaultheria]

So, Barry's dad has a twin on Earth 2? Didn't Barry speak to his Earth 2 mum and she didn't mention that her husband was missing. In fact, didn't she think him for tickets for herself and Barry's dad on a cruise to Atlantis or something like that?

One or both of E2 Barry's parents might not be his biological parent. This show has a heavy dose of relationship angst for superheroes, so I can imagine E2 Henry Allen getting his powers a couple of decades ago and leaving his wife and infant son for their safety, even going so far as to create a new mundane identity for himself using his mother's maiden name. When Nora remarries, the new husband is "Dad" even though Barry keeps his last name.

However it works out, it'll probably involve angst.

And wouldn't Earth 2 residents have queried why The Flash changed appearance so dramatically, unless the first Flash kept his appearance hidden behind a mask?

E2 Wells seemed suspicious of fake-Jay at the press conference. Wells collected a lot of research on victims of the particle accelerator accident, because of motivational guilt, and as an expert on them he was at the right place and the right time to recognize "Flash" as Hunter. If real-Jay had always kept his face blurred, and if most people didn't know what Hunter looked like clean-shaven and with short hair, the switch might not have raised warning flags in most people's minds.

 

[zenith16]

One or both of E2 Barry's parents might not be his biological parent. This show has a heavy dose of relationship angst for superheroes, so I can imagine E2 Henry Allen getting his powers a couple of decades ago and leaving his wife and infant son for their safety, even going so far as to create a new mundane identity for himself using his mother's maiden name. When Nora remarries, the new husband is "Dad" even though Barry keeps his last name.

However it works out, it'll probably involve angst.

hmmm any one have the phone image ofvthe list of people earth 2 barry knows. if it just say's mom and dad then, we can go with that theory for now. but if it say's their full names or mr. and mrs Allen then there''s alot of questions to be asked annswered yet again like how she'd not notice the man on her vacation with herand she bben married to for years and raised her son with is missing especially now that earth 2 barry and iris went to live with them in Atlantice while hiding away from zoom?


and more important if that is earth 2 Henry with her on that vacation why'd he allow Zoom to take over earth 2 for so long for more then 2 year's and he's busy enjoying his vacationif he is Jay Garrick of all people?

Alot needs to be answered with mrs. Allen. and her being in cahoot's with zoom will be the worst answer in history.

 

[haephestus]

I'm pretty sure E2 Barry's phone said "Mom and Dad" (and a separate "Dad" for Joe). So Gaultheria's theory could work and does make sense for all of the family angst and separation that the CW shows love.

 

[Syncos]

So, Barry's dad has a twin on Earth 2? Didn't Barry speak to his Earth 2 mum and she didn't mention that her husband was missing. In fact, didn't she think him for tickets for herself and Barry's dad on a cruise to Atlantis or something like that? And wouldn't Earth 2 residents have queried why The Flash changed appearance so dramatically, unless the first Flash kept his appearance hidden behind a mask? Or unless the Shipp version of Jay Garrick is from yet another Earth?

It's certainly possible the real Jay Garrick was never "in the public spotlight". Maybe he would save people and speed away all in a blur.

However after fighting Zoom and losing/getting locked up, Hunter shows up calling himself the flash, and using the name Jay Garrick and people just assume it to be fact. Dude has super speed, a red costume and calls himself the flash.

 

[Brian Braddock]

^^^Pretty much how I think it will play out.