Whiskey Tango
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It was a crap idea the first time and it hasn't improved with age. Stop.
It was a crap idea the first time and it hasn't improved with age. Stop.
jaqua99 said:pretty sure he's a troll
I was serious.
jaqua99 said:come on. I really don't mean to come off aggressively, but why do you think it would be a good idea to have stark create him? Pym will be in the MCU within the next few years. Why change Ultron's origin when his great origin can still be created on screen?
its not like pym wont be there
Did you just say Hank Pym wasn't interesting...?Does the general public at large know that Hank Pym created Ultron? He's just not that interesting. We all know about Iron Man and Tony Stark.
That's why I've had I'm Venom on ignore for months...he's a flat-out troll. But reading what he said in your quote, I had to lol:
"Does the general public at large know that Hank Pym created Ultron?"
Better question: does the general public at large know who Ultron is? *Or* Hank Pym? (Hint: no.)
Does the general public at large know that Hank Pym created Ultron? He's just not that interesting. We all know about Iron Man and Tony Stark.
Does the general public at large know that Hank Pym created Ultron? He's just not that interesting.
Better question: does the general public at large know who Ultron is? *Or* Hank Pym? (Hint: no.)
cherokeesam said:That's why I've had I'm Venom on ignore for months...he's a flat-out troll. But reading what he said in your quote, I had to lol:
"Does the general public at large know that Hank Pym created Ultron?"
Better question: does the general public at large know who Ultron is? *Or* Hank Pym? (Hint: no.)
Even better question: Did the general public at large know who Tony Stark was before Iron Man?
Stark's had enough success without robbing aspects from an entirely different character and depriving that character's fans the chance to see him onscreen.
I maintain that it's a crap idea. And I'm always right.
I agree with you 110%.
I've always said that what distinguishes Ultron from other killer robots is his oedipal complex with Hank and Jan. You can't plug that into Tony's story, unless you were to sub Pepper for Jan, and Jesus Christ who wants that? I think even Gwyneth is getting sick of the refrigerator following Pepper around (it might even catch up to her in IM3, who knows), so we're all better off without her becoming the object of a killer robot's affections.
in my eyes, Ultron and Pym's relationship is one of the most interesting ones in comcs
Ant-manic said:Stark has father issues in the movie. and, in the books, Ultron has never fridged Jan. that's not to say that i think that Pym should be left out of Ultron's movie origin.
didn't stop Ultron from using Stark's body to "become" Janet Van Dyne. and that was from a leftover plot where he was Tony's armor, at one point. he's definatley Pym's creation. but Stark is associated with A.I., as well (antigone, plato, rebuilding vision, etc).
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