The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Who would be the best MJ?

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If Mary Jane is being selected based on illustrators, then I'd rather see someone draw from the work of Terry Moore as an inspiration. He draws women as they truly are, not as men and the media fantasize them to be. He had his own solo Spidey series where he handled art and scripts, but he was dealing with a high schoolaged MJ. I'd rather see something like Francine but with red hair.

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If Mary Jane is beinf selected based on illustrators, then I'd rather see someone draw from the work of Terry Moorr as an inspiration. He draws women as they truly are, not as men and the media fantasize them to be.
Point is moot when the quintessential MJ is part of the industry which has pushed specific idealizations, and actually physically represents it.

In any case this is a fantasy genre anyway, so I see no crime in catering to unrealistic standards. That's the quirk of these properties.
 
If Mary Jane is beinf selected based on illustrators, then I'd rather see someone draw from the work of Terry Moorr as an inspiration. He draws women as they truly are, not as men and the media fantasize them to be. He had his own solo Spidey series where he handled art and scripts, but he was dealing with a high schoolaged MJ. I'd rather see something like Francine but with red hair.

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I don't know if there is more than one Terry Moore in the comic book industry, but I looked him up and found this. :dry:

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Anyway, I don't think they'll cast based on images from the comic. They'll cast based on talent, chemistry, age, stardom, and ability to portray the character. If their vision of MJ is at all in line with the way that the character was portrayed in the mainstream comics, then she'll be a bombshell by nature.
 
Point is moot when the quintessential MJ is part of the industry which has pushed specific idealizations, and actually physically represents it.

In any case this is a fantasy genre anyway, so I see no crime in catering to unrealistic standards. That's the quirk of these properties.

That statement is lazy, borders on perpetuating sexist stereotypes and highlights one of many things wrong with the creators and consumers of this medium. But that is neither here nor there. This thread is about casting, not gender bias.

I don't know if there is more than one Terry Moore in the comic book industry, but I looked him up and found this. :dry:

Anyway, I don't think they'll cast based on images from the comic. They'll cast based on talent, chemistry, age, stardom, and ability to portray the character. If their vision of MJ is at all in line with the way that the character was portrayed in the mainstream comics, then she'll be a bombshell by nature.

That is the one and the same. When I said not fantasized, I meant more about the fact that Terry Moore doesn't illustrate women with impossible bust sizes and waif waist lines. He draws women that you would find in real life. Perhaps I should have said not idealized. But he isn't adverse to drawing the occasional pinup. I could have also named Frank Cho, as he has a similar penchant. However, I realize that Cho is already associated with the oversexualization of the female figure, despite drawing women a bit more realistically than the typical comic artist.
 
That statement is lazy, borders on perpetuating sexist stereotypes and highlights one of many things wrong with the creators and consumers of this medium. But that is neither here nor there. This thread is about casting, not gender bias.

Wow. Way to reach, Mr. Fantastic.
 
That is the one and the same. When I said not fantasized, I meant more about the fact that Terry Moore doesn't illustrate women with impossible bust sizes and waif waist lines. He draws women that you would find in real life. Perhaps I should have said not idealized. But he isn't adverse to drawing the occasional pinup. I could have also named Frank Cho, as he has a similar penchant. However, I realize that Cho is already associated with the oversexualization of the female figure, despite drawing women a bit more realistically than the typical comic artist.

I think Paolo Rivera's artwork (which I posted earlier) is probably some of the least sexually fantasized and idealized artwork in the business. In fact,if you check out his blog, he uses a lot of real-life reference for his work. His depiction of MJ is far from being anatomically blown out of proportion like a lot of artists, yet he still manages to remain true to some of of the more classic elements of the character. His MJ is drawn realistically stunning and sexy (as the character has been depicted in the mainstream comics) and is still very reminiscent of the way that the character was designed/illustrated by co-creator John Romita sr.

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Deodato's Mary Jane isn't blown out of proportion either.
 
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I think Paolo Rivera's artwork (which I posted earlier) is probably some of the least sexually fantasized and idealized artwork in the business. In fact,if you check out his blog, he uses a lot of real-life reference for his work. His depiction of MJ is far from being anatomically blown out of proportion like a lot of artists, yet he still manages to remain true to some of of the more classic elements of the character. His MJ is drawn realistically stunning and sexy (as the character has been depicted in the mainstream comics) and is still very reminiscent of the way that the character was designed/illustrated by co-creator John Romita sr.

Those are some lovely pieces that you shared. Reminds me a bit of JK Woodward, if his work was colored rather than painted.
 
Those are some lovely pieces that you shared. Reminds me a bit of JK Woodward, if his work was colored rather than painted.

Yeah, I can see a similarity to Woodward. If I'm not mistaken, those pieces were hand painted, not digitally colored.
 
First of all, when Spawn the film came out, Spawn was a top ten comic book, a popular HBO animated series and a popular line of toys. Spawn #1 sold ~1.7 million copies, which is quite a feat when you can consider that X-Men Vol. 2 #1 sold ~3 million copies (the Guinness record holder for most copies ever sold for a comic book). Either you don't know jack crap about Spawn, are too young to remember how the 90s actually occurred or just want to make stuff up to suit your case. The Spawn film was a box office hit, grossing more than twice its budget. And as it stands, Spawn had quite a bit of controversy surrounding the whitewashing of key characters to the story.


Second of all, you can hear Liam Neeson's accent the entire time. It isn't as if he pulled a Hugh Laurie or an Andrew Garfield and adopted the appropriate accent for the nationality of the character he is portraying. You hear his same accent as you hear in all of his roles. Mind you, I am not criticizing his performance, he did an excellent job. I am however criticizing the hypocrisy that professes that changing the race of non-White characters or tertiary characters is acceptable but changing White characters or major characters is some how a detriment.

And rather than acknowledge that fact, you go on to prove me right by being a hypocrite, making an argument for why it is okay for an Irishman and French woman to play characters that are traditionally Arab, but not okay for a non-White to play a character that is traditionally White. You are a hypocrite, and I am loathe to respect a hypocrite.

Does that mean you respect me?

At 45 years old I most definitely remember the 90's.

All I was indicating is that for the general audience Spawn is much less known than Spiderman. I believe most reasonable people would not argue that point. The average general audience member knows who Peter Parker is and knows who Mary Jane is in relation to Spiderman, but would not know who Al Simmons or Spawn is.

As far as Liam's portrayal of R'as, all I indicated was he looked the part. As far as acting, I don't think anyone would say Liam isn't a good actor. You even said he did "an excellent job". Yes, they changed the character for the movie into, what, a Brit? Actually I'm not sure what his nationality was in the movie, but I don't think that mattered. Liam looked the part and his acting was great!

Now, for me to be hypocritical as you claim I would have to be ok with changing a primary minority character's ethnicity to anglo, but not ok with changing a primary anglo character to a minority. But that is not the case. I gave you numerous cases of a black character (both primary and secondary) where I would not agree with changing the race. Here is a quick list again:

- Cyborg
- Green Lantern (John Stewart)
- Bishop
- Black Panther
- Blade
- Cloak
- Deathlok
- Falcon
- Power Man
- Night Thrasher
- Prowler
- Shard
- Storm
- War Machine

In my opinion, in almost everyone of the cases above, the look of the character is important.

At the same time, there have been changes from anglo characters to black that I was ok with, including:

- Nick Fury
- Heimdall

Yes, for some those changes were a problem, but not for me. Because in my opinion these two characters weren't what I would call "primary". Mind you, nor would a couple on the list I provided above, but I'm hoping you get the point...

Which is, assuming the actor/actress cast has the acting ability, the look of the character matters and should be portrayed per canon.
 
So, was Shae's scene in the movie, the one where she is a waitress and sees the car slam down on another car?

If so, how is she listed in the trailer? Is it:

Waitress..... Shaelene Woodley

?????
 
Before TASM, I thought that Emma Stone would have made a great Mary Jane. I still believe that she was the perfect choice, but we all know what happened with that ...

In order to cast a Mary Jane, the next movie needs an actress who will have as much personality as Emma Stone, since MJ is a woman with a BIG personality. An actress with such charisma and personality, in my opinion, is currently Jennifer Lawrence.

I like JLaw a lot, but I think she was miscast as Mystique in the X-Men movies. Don't get me wrong, I think she's been fine, but I don't think the role quite suits her. After seeing Silver Linings Playbook, I saw how much of a spitfire she can be in a role. Add that with her beauty, and BAM! I think we can have our next MJ.
 
PLUS you don't lose out on marketing, cause lots of people went to the movie just to see Emma Stone in it, they're the same kinds of people that will go see a movie for Jennifer Lawrence.

She has too much on though, X-Men movies, the hunger games, probably something else I forgot, I can't see it happening :(
 
Who's the WORST possible Mary Jane that is still a real actor technically?
 
I too think she was miscast as Mystique. Waste of a talent and personality for a role like that.
 
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