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Discussion in 'Fight Club' started by hyperion04, Jul 23, 2004.
The guy's mentally flaccid and continues to be so arrogant, it's just insane.
Well he thinks Frank Castle is a deeper, more complex character than Wade Wilson so...
...he's Jeph Loeb.
Perhaps. That does seem like a logical explanation.
Ha ha ha!
Bravo good sir!
If it wer Rulk then he'd dust Superman.
No, no he wouldn't.
Is it a fight or a pushing contest?
In sheer pushing force the Hulks strength should be able to eventually exceed that of Superman.
If it is a fight, my money is on Superman.
It is possible for either one to be knocked unconscious.
The biggest difference, and IMHO the common denominator is speed.
In the fight the Hulk may as well be standing still as a statue.
Superman has SUPER- SPEED.
He is not quite as fast as the Flash, but he is still one of the fastest characters in the DC universe, and can go much faster than the speed of sound.
The hulk may get stronger, and heal faster, and he may even get somewhat faster as he gets angrier too, but primarily he gets stronger.
So far as I know the rate of Hulks speed increase is no-where close to his strength increases.
The fight would have to go on several days for the hulk to even get 10x faster than he usually is, because again, he mostly gets stronger, the speed increase is far less.
So for all intents an purposes, the Hulk, even at 10x his normal speed would be still moving so slow compared to Superman that the Hulk may as well be a green statue.
All Superman has to do is hit the hulk at full force, at his top speed, which would be impossible for the hulk to block. KO winner Superman.
Now if you take the Speed away from Superman, then they Hulk would eventually overpower him.
In a test of strength the Hulk also would eventually win.
Doomsday also has Super Speed, that the Hulk, while very fast, does not have Super Speed.
Superman CAN fly fast then Flash can run.
Superman has moved planets, atomized words by punching someone, shattered the boundaries of space and time in a fight, held black holes, and moved Warworld. If that isn't a test of strength that would out do the Hulk I don't what is.
Yes, this is true, but what does that have to do with the topic?
Did not realize that. I thought he could only get 99% as fast as the Flash, the Flash still having the edge. He can get to 100% flying? I did not know that.
I was told by a Hulk fan once that he too has held a force equal to that of a black hole. I cannot verify that however. I figured since Hulk seems to have an infinite upward capacity for strength, eventually he could "out lift" Superman. That is different than a fight however.
The reason I pointed out that Doomsday has SuperSpeed, and the Hulk does not, is that it is easy for people to assume that Doomsday, a "Hulk like creature" killed Superman, they may bring up Doomsday into the argument. I Wanted to shoot that one down, as in terms of speed Doomsday and the Hulk do not compare.
Anyway, I think that in a fight, the speed of Superman is the elephant in the room.
Does not matter how MAD Hulk gets, his top speed may as well be standing still. Sure he will be strong, damned strongest stationary object Superman has ever had a fight with.
Force is also strength x speed. One full speed punch at full strength from Superman, and the Hulk is KO. Bruce Banner will wake up with a headache.
Hulk could beat Superman's ass and kill him in just a man-e-mano beatdown.
However, if Superman was fighting Hulk in Space, Hulk would lose. Superman is faster and smarter and can stay powered in space. Hulk apparently can withstand space, but his durability there isn't really known. I'm giving Superman the advantage.
Doesn't the Hulk end up adapting to every environment? If he's stuck fighting in space he'd probably grow space gills or something...
Wouldn't it end up as a stalemate if Superman went super-speed on the Hulk? The hits would probably toss the Hulk from one end of the country to another but won't it end up just making him angrier? The Hulk would win if the hits don't knock him out right away cause he'd end up healing faster and get a strength boost...Oh and which version of the Hulk are we talking about? World War Hulk made the hulk pretty rigged...
Doesn't matter which Hulk he's fighting. Until he adapts to the point where he can fly, obtains super speed at Supe's level or spits Kryptonite, he'll lose.
The major problem with this match-up is that DC gave Superman the ability to pull superpowers out of his ass and Marvel only gave the Hulk super-strength to match Superman's...I vote Supes since it's actually hard to imagine the Hulk doing anything against someone flying at light-speed or something while being just as strong. Has there been any match ups between the Sentry and Superman?
Ugh, this thread.....
And yes, Sentry / Superman bouts have been done but Sentry hate always ensures the same outcome.
I kinda expected Superman to lose them to the Sentry since The Sentry has the power of like 10 million exploding suns or something while Superman is powered by 1...That and Superman thinks wearing glasses makes him unrecognizable..
Superman wins in 1.37 seconds.
That sure is slow for a guy who can fly at lightspeed...
God, this thread just won't DIE!!!
Yeah, I know.
It's just like that case of Herpes you were telling me about....
Hulk & Superman if my opinion is have same strong, but speed & intelligence Superman have it, so the winner is Superman...can't doubt it
These sorts of threads always make me like both characters less.
I'm from the future Man of steel will come out in 2013 making Superman badass and losing the undies, and it will be the start of a DCCU!
Popular consensus will have (current) Superman win. Hands down. He'll throw him into space or something. Then save him after passing out. Winning the fight. I'd be fine with that.
But I'd also be fine with Superman being unable to fly-lift him off the ground because of World Breaker Hulks grip and he goes Bane on Superman and breaks his back across his knee turning him halfway into Christopher Reeve (too soon?). Maybe even going all the way and making him just like Christopher Reeve (RIP) by finishing the job if he's mad enough.
Both stories could be believable.