Why are so many people deadset against showing the origin?

[Mr. Earle]

Some nice ideas there mr. earle. I to wouldnt mind if they went the route of STAS for brainiac and tie him to krypton/ Or if you want to keep him a colu to still be the cause or one of the contributing factors to why krypton blew up and all that.

As for origin i said it time and time before i still want to see it. Since if we are going to the hassle of a totally new start new begining for a film series. We need to see why things are new and different in this story compared to past tv shows or the donnor movies and all that. Only question is how do you want to play out the origin bits in the movie.

Thanks a lot!
Since its a reboot, they will have to show the origin so that the audience understands that the story starts over. They should at the very least show it when the titles fall at the beginning.

But i already explained how i want to see the origin handled. I want to learn more about Clark, i want to see him active, alive (not like the lifeless doll he was in SR) but of course i want none of the Smallville crap either. But just because the Smallville show is a POS, it doesnt mean that the movie should ignore Clark's teen years. They should aknowledge and show them. I am really interested in seeing him progress from a farmboy to a dynamic Metropolis reporter. Seeing his last days in Smallville, saying goodbuy to Lana, his friends and his parents, and then going in the belly of the monster that is called the city, with lots of noise, traffic, strange people and places, different people who arent as friendly and helpful as the villagers, Lois making fun of him for being a farmboy, etc.

I just had another idea: The fact that he feels alone in the city could be the reason that Clark sympathises with Jimmy and he is the only one that pays attention to him and doesnt treat him like a slave. Clark takes care of him and helps him climb the ladder by helping him get shots of Superman.

And i want to see Lana. I remember that in a STAS episode Superman meets Lana and she instantly knows its Clark. She tells him that she always knew there was something supernatural about him and that the first time she heard about Superman she knew it was him. I'd like a Lana that doesnt know about Clark's powers, or at least she doesnt know how he plans to use them. The film would specify that she doesnt know that. And at some point during the film i'd have a scene where Superman prevents an accident at the streets of Metropolis while Lana is exiting a shop. Superman doesnt notice her and flies away but Lana smiles and says "go get them Clark!" implying that she knew him well enough to figure out that he is Superman.

 

[Webhead2006]

totally there is so many different ways a new film series can go with characters, story, and the whole pre superman life stuff.

 

[wattabrownsound]

what if they had the people on Krypton speaking Kryptonian and there was english subtitles instead of outright speaking english? it would give off a more alien feeling.

 

[KalMart]

what if they had the people on Krypton speaking Kryptonian and there was english subtitles instead of outright speaking english? it would give off a more alien feeling.

It would feel too Star Trek. I don't think they need to go that far...just say that it's another world and make it look that way.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Hey man, people were talking English on the top of the Himalayas and you want Kryptonians to talk Kryptonian? Arent you a demanding fan! (i am kidding, i am on your side)

I am referring of course to BB where a simple villager told Bruce: "you go back". Bruce only spoke Chinese once, when he was arrested. Its such a pity because they could show him use multiple languages but it turns out that American audiences hate subtitles.
Here's an example of Batman using a foreign language. He doesnt simply know every martial art in the world, he knows many foreign languages. Watch at 3:00.
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Anyway, if the scenes on Krypton are too long, i dont expect the actors to learn a bunch of jibberish but it would be cool if the first few sentences were spoken in Kryptonian, turning to English afterwards. Supposedly they keep talking K but through movie magic we hear english, you know the drill.
Its always nice to hear even a little of other people's languages. For example i loved that the decepticons spoke their own language in the Transformers movie.

 

[Doc Ock]

I don't see what is wrong with showing the origin! You would be surprised how many people don't know Superman is a alien...

 

[Webhead2006]

totally I still say for any new start we should have at least some sort or origin bits told be that some krypton stuff, or smallville life before superman life in metropolis. It would just be silly to have no origin told at all. It would be leaving everyone wonder how it is in this story and all that. Also if we have a different story/look for things it can greatly help get it to be less assoicated to donner's movie or other takes.

 

[M.O.Steel]

Anyway, if the scenes on Krypton are too long, i dont expect the actors to learn a bunch of jibberish but it would be cool if the first few sentences were spoken in Kryptonian, turning to English afterwards. Supposedly they keep talking K but through movie magic we hear english, you know the drill.

i think that is the way to go. sounds good to me. although people talking in english never really bothered me even if it doesn't make sense.

 

[KalMart]

For example i loved that the decepticons spoke their own language in the Transformers movie.

Plus...it was a nice way to dress up a simple shot of a bulldozer driving by.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Plus...it was a nice way to dress up a simple shot of a bulldozer driving by.

What scene are you referring to?

Also, here's an example of the TF alien language. Watch at 1:40.
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[KalMart]

What scene are you referring to?

Also, here's an example of the TF alien language. Watch at 1:40.
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It creates more of a sense of menace to the shots of just the (untransformed Starscream) fighter plane rolling slowly on the runway, the (untransformed whoever) minesweeper tank pulling out of its parking spot, and the (untransformed Bonecrusher) dump truck making a turn. Without the 'alien' voice and flashy oncreen subtitles...it's just a fighter plane rolling slowly on the runway, a tank pulling out of its parking spot, and a dump truck making a turn.

 

[wattabrownsound]

they could have Lex play off how Superman says he's from another planet yet we have not found any intelligent life in space yet. i would suggest having lex make the people think superman is lying but then how would Lex explain Superman's powers?

 

[Mr. Earle]

It creates more of a sense of menace to the shots of just the (untransformed Starscream) fighter plane rolling slowly on the runway, the (untransformed whoever) minesweeper tank pulling out of its parking spot, and the (untransformed Bonecrusher) dump truck making a turn. Without the 'alien' voice and flashy oncreen subtitles...it's just a fighter plane rolling slowly on the runway, a tank pulling out of its parking spot, and a dump truck making a turn.

I agree 100%.

 

[KalMart]

But we don't need alien language for Kryptonians if they're obviously not on or from Earth. A simple title at the bottom of the screen that says "the planet krypton", along with appropriate costume and production design...English will be just fine. In TF, they needed it for the decepticons who were camouflaged as Earth vehicles. In their robotic forms, they could just speak their lines in English...like they did when they were...in robotic form. I doubt we'd see Kryptonians dressed in GAP clothes talking in a Starbucks.

 

[project13]

I'm not against showing the origin, but I feel what WB should do besides trying to get a movie made, is to make the reboot less about Superman's origins and make it more of a 'first adventure' story. It should focus on Clark's first year as Superman and should start in Smallville where his journey began.

 

[KalMart]

I'm not against showing the origin, but I feel what WB should do besides trying to get a movie made, is to make the reboot less about Superman's origins and make it more of a 'first adventure' story. It should focus on Clark's first year as Superman and should start in Smallville where his journey began.

I feel the same, but I'd start it with his arrival in Metropolis.

 

[Webhead2006]

Good points guys, i said it before they need to clearly show fans this time around things are different new settings/stories/etc..... How to start it all up i am open to any way it is told. As long as we do get the details we want to see krypton, smallville life, and metropolis start.

 

[project13]

I'm not against showing the origin, but I feel what WB should do besides trying to get a movie made, is to make the reboot less about Superman's origins and make it more of a 'first adventure' story. It should focus on Clark's first year as Superman and should start in Smallville where his journey began.

What I'm trying to say is that the next Superman movie should not just be an origin story, but about Superman's first adventure as a hero. It should start in Smallville when Clark searches for himself. However, his adventure truly begins when he makes his debut in Metropolis as Superman.

 

[Webhead2006]

well that is still pretty much an origin cause we are seeing him starting out and all that. For me personally as i said many times since when ever the next time a film comes they need to have some sort of origins told. So we know why this superman is different then other ones. I just dont want them to skip out on krypton or pre superman life at all. Cause we loose out on characters and setting up stuff that could be threats/issues down the road.

 

[DavidTyler]

I know I'm repeating myself but this is what I want to see:

Prelude that takes us to Krypton where we find out that Jor-el is a young rebel in a society that's become so complacent that they refuse to believe that anything can happen to their world. (Krypton must be visually a lush paradise with spectacular cities set in the midst of beautiful landscape.)

As the capper to that prelude, I want to see him found by the Kents.

Prelude being finished, we can skip ahead to Act 1, where we find him a doing his world travels and, in those sequences, I'd like some flashbacks to his younger days in Smallville. I'd like those flashbacks to be minimal but important moments directly relating to what he's experiencing and how it's shaping him. The only sequence I like from Birthright would be used here. The African sequence which comes complete with it's own climax.

Now were into Act 2 where we see Clark in Metropolis. He does the 'Space Plane' rescue in civilian clothes and, afterwards, comes up with the Superman personna. Fast forward to Clark entering the workforce as the newest employee of the Daily Planet.

Act 3 is where we set up the antagonist and get into the major hero/villain battles.
Choose your villain. It can even be Lex as long as he's used as the manipulator behind the scenes. He can send Metallo or some other Luthor corp created threat to confront Superman.

Personally, I think it might be a good idea to save someone like Brainiac for the sequel.

And that's my rough outline of how I'd like the next movie to go. Act's 2 & 3 can also be peppered with Smallville flashbacks.

BTW, I'd like to change Smallville from being located in Kansas to being located in Upstate NY with Metropolis being one of the boroughs in NYC.

 

[Webhead2006]

some nice thoughts, but i would want to keep smallville in ks, and not move it.

 

[Young Superman]

I want a new origin film to reboot thr Superman franchise, but please DC/WB DON'T base it off superman Secret Origin. That'd feel like just another Donnerverse ripoff to me.

 

[Webhead2006]

i still say taking things from all the eras and finding a way they work would be a nice way to go about it. I agree i dont want to see a clone to donner's movie again. but i dont want to see a far out reboot change.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well there are certainly things they can improve on.

Making Krypton more distinct would be a good start. Giving them their own language isn't a bad idea at all.

They really should show more of Superman's roots, both Kansan and Kryptonian.

 

[Webhead2006]

oh totally yea you take the main elements we fans want to have in origin/character traits for the characters. Then add on to them with new stuff.