Why Bale and Routh arent part of the Justice League

[Steelsheen]

hey Vile, i thought you hated the JLA movie and everything to do with it specially that Bale isnt in it..... so why are you here?

 

[Mogwai]

hey, as long as Nolan and Singer are able to work on their trilogies, then I don't carewhat is done with JL.

agreed.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Funny thing is Spacey has denied even being approached yet... what if he just decides to retire in a year or so... what then? I am still confident we will get MOS but thats in major jeapordy... as is a Nolan third.

 

[Steelsheen]

we'll wait how the writers strike will turn out, right now its the major thing thats putting a lot of things on hold.

 

[newmexneon]

This movie is going to wreck both the Batman and Superman films. People had enough confusion about Routh getting the role over Welling when so many people were following Smalliville.

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

we'll wait how the writers strike will turn out, right now its the major thing thats putting a lot of things on hold.

The writers strike will only cause scripted TV shows problems. It wont effect movies until around this time next year pretty much

 

[az824]

This movie is going to wreck both the Batman and Superman films. People had enough confusion about Routh getting the role over Welling when so many people were following Smalliville.

they'll live. its their fault they cant tell apart different interpretations of characters. most people wont care anyways

 

[DACrowe]

So, wait. I understood why Nolan was pissed about this movie. HE is not "a Batman fanboy hoarding the character all to himself," but an artist trying to tell a 3 act play or a trilogy of interwoven storylines and not only does this movie take away from the luster of the trilogy coming out in between part 2 and 3 (which some people may stupidly mistake as a continuation of his story) but apparently STEPS ON plot points that were going to come up in the third film (Talia and the possible return of Ra's).

Way to **** with Nolan's movies. I'd rather see them wait until after 3. But they ismply are impatient and scared that post-Spider-Man 3 that the genre is dying and this is no different than the panicking WB did when they rushed Batman & Robin out the door with a Batman 5, Superman Lives and Batman/Superman third project all prepared to be made before the decade was over, but fortunately B&R bombed and the greedy bastards didn't do anymore damage.

But here we are 10 years later and they are repeating the same mistake.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

So, wait. I understood why Nolan was pissed about this movie. HE is not "a Batman fanboy hoarding the character all to himself," but an artist trying to tell a 3 act play or a trilogy of interwoven storylines and not only does this movie take away from the luster of the trilogy coming out in between part 2 and 3 (which some people may stupidly mistake as a continuation of his story) but apparently STEPS ON plot points that were going to come up in the third film (Talia and the possible return of Ra's).

Way to **** with Nolan's movies. I'd rather see them wait until after 3. But they ismply are impatient and scared that post-Spider-Man 3 that the genre is dying and this is no different than the panicking WB did when they rushed Batman & Robin out the door with a Batman 5, Superman Lives and Batman/Superman third project all prepared to be made before the decade was over, but fortunately B&R bombed and the greedy bastards didn't do anymore damage.

But here we are 10 years later and they are repeating the same mistake.

This Nolan being pissed and Talia and Ra's plot points is a bunch of cr@p, excuse my French. We know almost nothing about this movie, I'm sorry but I give no credibility to either of those script leaks. There seems to be hoaxes on a daily basis with this movie. Until I hear Nolan flat out say, yea I'm annoyed and I won't be returning to direct Batman 3, then I am not worrying about it.

And the fact of the matter is, WB seems to like the idea of keeping the JL continuity completely separate from the solo superhero movies. Its been confirmed that the Flash and GL movies will operate outside of the JL movies. I take this as a good sign that Nolan will get to finish off his trilogy and Routh Superman will get its sequels as well(as to who is the writer and director for Superman is a different story).

 

[The Guard]

Why would Nolan just go back to Ra's Al Ghul in BATMAN 3?

 

[az824]

i know, i thought he was going to focus on two-face and possibly catwoman and joker

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

So, wait. I understood why Nolan was pissed about this movie. HE is not "a Batman fanboy hoarding the character all to himself," but an artist trying to tell a 3 act play or a trilogy of interwoven storylines and not only does this movie take away from the luster of the trilogy coming out in between part 2 and 3 (which some people may stupidly mistake as a continuation of his story) but apparently STEPS ON plot points that were going to come up in the third film (Talia and the possible return of Ra's).

Way to **** with Nolan's movies. I'd rather see them wait until after 3. But they ismply are impatient and scared that post-Spider-Man 3 that the genre is dying and this is no different than the panicking WB did when they rushed Batman & Robin out the door with a Batman 5, Superman Lives and Batman/Superman third project all prepared to be made before the decade was over, but fortunately B&R bombed and the greedy bastards didn't do anymore damage.

But here we are 10 years later and they are repeating the same mistake.

Spider-Man 3 opened with a record 151 million dollars and is the highest grossing movie in America and overseas included made nearly 900mil worldwide. I don't like the film big it was a huge success and Sony is even working on a fourth one...again I would have liked for it to have failed because it wasn't good but it didn't. It's a success plain and simple. I would agree that it will probably hurt the fourth ones boxoffice but it was a success.

This movie is going to wreck both the Batman and Superman films. People had enough confusion about Routh getting the role over Welling when so many people were following Smalliville.

The Superman film aready wrecked itself...so I don't see how thats possible.

 

[Killing Joke926]

IMO Bale is out JL's...........league; I can only imagine him doing the realistic style of BatMan that Mr. Nolan created for him.

 

[Nokio]

So, wait. I understood why Nolan was pissed about this movie. HE is not "a Batman fanboy hoarding the character all to himself," but an artist trying to tell a 3 act play or a trilogy of interwoven storylines and not only does this movie take away from the luster of the trilogy coming out in between part 2 and 3 (which some people may stupidly mistake as a continuation of his story) but apparently STEPS ON plot points that were going to come up in the third film (Talia and the possible return of Ra's).

Way to **** with Nolan's movies. I'd rather see them wait until after 3. But they ismply are impatient and scared that post-Spider-Man 3 that the genre is dying and this is no different than the panicking WB did when they rushed Batman & Robin out the door with a Batman 5, Superman Lives and Batman/Superman third project all prepared to be made before the decade was over, but fortunately B&R bombed and the greedy bastards didn't do anymore damage.

But here we are 10 years later and they are repeating the same mistake.

To hell with nolan! Would someone please explain to me what was so d@mn great about Nolan's Batman? I liked the movie, but it was just an entertaining summer popcorn flick. There wasn't any elaborate plot points and twists and turns where you was on the edge of your seat. Where was the great detective that batman is supposed to be. all them Bat films and we've yet to see his greatess. The 1st one was still the best of all with Keaton and the 2nd one with Catwoman is well the 2nd best. The fight scenes in Begins were to close and choppy, and the water evaporating machine was silly considering that you have a city full of carbon based life forms and yet the machine magically does not affect the people? I guess the science is so advanced that the machine could tell the difference between water outside the human body and only target that. I could go on with the faults, but why bother.

The really funny thing is that all the bat fans and fanboys like to sing nolan this high praise, and i'd bet my life if someone like Brett Ratner had directed the exact same movie the attitude towards it would be different. People would be screaming how he screwed up the restart of Bats and every flaw, especially that water machine would still to this day be talked about, but because nolan is deemed cool and edgy by the fanboys the movie gets a pass and is hailed as this second coming of comic films. F4 Rise of the Silver Surfer was better then Batman Begins, well I enjoyed that more and it had flaws.

 

[dnno1]

To hell with nolan! Would someone please explain to me what was so d@mn great about Nolan's Batman? I liked the movie, but it was just an entertaining summer popcorn flick. There wasn't any elaborate plot points and twists and turns where you was on the edge of your seat. Where was the great detective that batman is supposed to be. all them Bat films and we've yet to see his greatess. The 1st one was still the best of all with Keaton and the 2nd one with Catwoman is well the 2nd best. The fight scenes in Begins were to close and choppy, and the water evaporating machine was silly considering that you have a city full of carbon based life forms and yet the machine magically does not affect the people? I guess the science is so advanced that the machine could tell the difference between water outside the human body and only target that. I could go on with the faults, but why bother.

The really funny thing is that all the bat fans and fanboys like to sing nolan this high praise, and i'd bet my life if someone like Brett Ratner had directed the exact same movie the attitude towards it would be different. People would be screaming how he screwed up the restart of Bats and every flaw, especially that water machine would still to this day be talked about, but because nolan is deemed cool and edgy by the fanboys the movie gets a pass and is hailed as this second coming of comic films. F4 Rise of the Silver Surfer was better then Batman Begins, well I enjoyed that more and it had flaws.

You are absolutely right in my book and I have no explanation for your question about Nolan. I wound up watching "Batman Begins" on DVD and fell asleep during the first 45 minutes of the film (I had to watch it over again to catch what I missed). The batmobile was ugly and the part during the chase scene where it jumped from roof to roof was unrealistic. In addition, there were scenes in the film that were not too appropriate for younger children to watch (that is where F4ROSS was better). "Batman" 1989 was altogether a better film and it box office is proof of that.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

You are absolutely right in my book and I have no explanation for your question about Nolan. I wound up watching "Batman Begins" on DVD and fell asleep during the first 45 minutes of the film (I had to watch it over again to catch what I missed). The batmobile was ugly and the part during the chase scene where it jumped from roof to roof was unrealistic. In addition, there were scenes in the film that were not too appropriate for younger children to watch (that is where F4ROSS was better). "Batman" 1989 was altogether a better film and it box office is proof of that.

I actually like both of them. Box office doesn't prove quality, it just shows that people liked it. As for you saying it was inappropriate for kids, well, Batman should never be for kids. That being said, I do understand you point. Batman '89 is something I can watch over and over and never get bored.

 

[dnno1]

I actually like both of them. Box office doesn't prove quality, it just shows that people liked it. As for you saying it was inappropriate for kids, well, Batman should never be for kids. That being said, I do understand you point. Batman '89 is something I can watch over and over and never get bored.

Look I certainly can't tell if a film is quality or not based on your opinion, but when I see them for myself and look at the numbers, I know that "Batman (1989) was a better film (both in quality and in popularity). Although both films were nominated for numerous awards, only "Batman" (1989) won an Oscar and grossed "Spiderman" Like numbers at the box office. That is what can not be denied and also should be the expectation for Batman films.

 

[I Am The Knight]

there were scenes in the film that were not too appropriate for younger children to watch (that is where F4ROSS was better). "Batman" 1989 was altogether a better film and it box office is proof of that.

Blasphemy!! t: What scenes are you talking about? I watched the film many times, and never did I see or hear anyone complaining about how their kids were scared, at all. No crying, nothing, ever. Besides, We've had live action Batman for kids....It was called....Wait! don't make me say it...!

Batman and The Fantastic Four should probably target different demographics. FF is light hearted stuff, Batman should be the opposite. Batman movies should always be some of the most ''serious'' comic book films, while still entertaining, wich BB was. So, please don't say things like ''FF ROTSS was beter in that sense'' because the 2 films are not competing. They are completely different in tone.

And just because Batman did better than Batman Begins it doesn't means it was better. Do you think The Phantom Menace is a great film?

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Look I certainly can't tell if a film is quality or not based on your opinion, but when I see them for myself and look at the numbers, I know that "Batman (1989) was a better film (both in quality and in popularity). Although both films were nominated for numerous awards, only "Batman" (1989) won an Oscar and grossed "Spiderman" Like numbers at the box office. That is what can not be denied and also should be the expectation for Batman films.

I agree with you on Batman '89 being better. I was just saying that, in general, box office has nothing to do with quality.

 

[az824]

To hell with nolan! Would someone please explain to me what was so d@mn great about Nolan's Batman? I liked the movie, but it was just an entertaining summer popcorn flick. There wasn't any elaborate plot points and twists and turns where you was on the edge of your seat. Where was the great detective that batman is supposed to be. all them Bat films and we've yet to see his greatess. The 1st one was still the best of all with Keaton and the 2nd one with Catwoman is well the 2nd best. The fight scenes in Begins were to close and choppy, and the water evaporating machine was silly considering that you have a city full of carbon based life forms and yet the machine magically does not affect the people? I guess the science is so advanced that the machine could tell the difference between water outside the human body and only target that. I could go on with the faults, but why bother.

The really funny thing is that all the bat fans and fanboys like to sing nolan this high praise, and i'd bet my life if someone like Brett Ratner had directed the exact same movie the attitude towards it would be different. People would be screaming how he screwed up the restart of Bats and every flaw, especially that water machine would still to this day be talked about, but because nolan is deemed cool and edgy by the fanboys the movie gets a pass and is hailed as this second coming of comic films. F4 Rise of the Silver Surfer was better then Batman Begins, well I enjoyed that more and it had flaws.

i agree with most of what u said (even though i still enjoyed the movie), but you seriously thought F4RSS was a better movie? it was corny, not well executed, the acting was horrible, and the plot was extremely cliche. and i like Batman Returns better than 89

 

[echostation]

well BJ was supposed to give a BJ to Robinov but he didn't want to so he got fired... but ultimately it was left to Bale and Brandon to do something... WB doesn't want two B-named actors to be in their top film

 

[MechaOrga]

You are absolutely right in my book and I have no explanation for your question about Nolan. I wound up watching "Batman Begins" on DVD and fell asleep during the first 45 minutes of the film (I had to watch it over again to catch what I missed). The batmobile was ugly and the part during the chase scene where it jumped from roof to roof was unrealistic. In addition, there were scenes in the film that were not too appropriate for younger children to watch (that is where F4ROSS was better). "Batman" 1989 was altogether a better film and it box office is proof of that.

Hmmmm....

didnt joker acid burn his girlfriends Face?Then Kill her?

didnt he shoot his crime boss point blank in the chest multiple times?

didnt batman deflect a bullet into jack's face? Then at the end of the film throw a goon down a cathedral?

didn't...well forget it. I think to me '89 had more moments inappropriate for kids. BUt hey, the movie came out when i was 7 and i ate it up!!!

I LOVE Batman 89 without regret, but I can even see that BB was FAR FAR FAR and away superior than '89(where all the sets looked like sets) in terms of overall quality.

I Apprecciate both films in the end. Without Burton's Goth fest we wouldn't have Nolan's more fined Batman. And Jack played the Joker like no other(that is until we see heath LOL)

 

[Mr. Socko]

I'm glad Christian Bale isn't in this. I enjoyed his version of Batman but don't want it mixed with JLA, something that will take on a completely different tone with a different director. I'm not one of the "Bale is the holy grail" guys so I'm certainly open to other people's visions of Batman as well.

I hope this movie goes well and it's Batman could put up a little friendly bat-competition with Chris Bale, hehe.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I LOVE Batman 89 without regret, but I can even see that BB was FAR FAR FAR and away superior than '89(where all the sets looked like sets) in terms of overall quality.

I Apprecciate both films in the end. Without Burton's Goth fest we wouldn't have Nolan's more fined Batman. And Jack played the Joker like no other(that is until we see heath LOL)

I disagree on most accounts.

 

[MechaOrga]

I disagree on most accounts.

Mr. Burton?


That's cool. Im glad Bale isn't part of this. I mean if they are looking at Josh Duhmal, I'm guessing the dialogue and Range required for this movie isn't awe inspiring.

I for one like my Batman dropping down on a group of thugs and beating them senseless and friggin quick!
as opposed to:

Gordon:How do you beat these villians batman? your incredible!

Batman 89:Well first i let them shoot me in the chest. See i have body armour.After i come too, i kick their ass!!

Gordon:well what if they shoot you in the face?

Batman 89: whazat?