Days of Future Past Why do you think Raven rescued Wolverine?

[mkilban2]

It's great because they've nearly perfectly set it up where they can now take any characters story anywhere. Want to keep Jackman/Logan around? Great now he can be a horseman in the next film (Wolverine as an antagonist would be great IMO). Want to just have Raven pawn him off to real Stryker and continue the story they told before? That can be done too.

I love the line of current Xavier to Logan at the end where he's like "we have a lot of catching up to do." There's nearly endless possibilities now, some characters stories can be told the same, others can be changed now to work in whichever film comes next. It's a genius move by those who made the film.

 

[danoyse]

It's great because they've nearly perfectly set it up where they can now take any characters story anywhere. Want to keep Jackman/Logan around? Great now he can be a horseman in the next film (Wolverine as an antagonist would be great IMO). Want to just have Raven pawn him off to real Stryker and continue the story they told before? That can be done too.

I love the line of current Xavier to Logan at the end where he's like "we have a lot of catching up to do." There's nearly endless possibilities now, some characters stories can be told the same, others can be changed now to work in whichever film comes next. It's a genius move by those who made the film.

I just saw it again tonight (3rd time!) and it's funny how Xavier looked downright giddy when he realized Logan from 1973 was back and they could finally catch up now. I loved that scene when I saw it the first time, and I like it more every time I see it again.

I was trying to check out who else might have been on that boat besides Raven to see if there were any clues. And there weren't, but dammit, that movie can't come out soon enough now.

 

[eledoremassis02]

"whats the last thing you remember?"

I've never seen Steward play Xavier this way before, it was very interesting. That really set it in how different the time line is now.

It's gotten me more interested because we can hopefully re-learn all these characters, it's like 2 reboots!

 

[Loki882]

So I assume that that means that young Xavier will remember what happened? We know that the OT characters only know the new timeline now, but will the 1973 characters remember what actually happened? Otherwise, why would that particular year register with old Xavier so much?

 

[danoyse]

So I assume that that means that young Xavier will remember what happened? We know that the OT characters only know the new timeline now, but will the 1973 characters remember what actually happened? Otherwise, why would that particular year register with old Xavier so much?

Well, Xavier knows there was an alternate timeline, and that he was visited by a future version of Logan in 1973. He didn't live through that timeline, so they only one who'll remember that version of history is Logan. But Xavier will remember everything that went on for those few days in 1973.

 

[mkilban2]

It really took me awhile to register that old Xavier at the end of the film isn't old Xavier from the beginning of the film. Once that set in everything else made so much more sense in a way.

Before I never felt McAvoy and Stewart were playing the same character, now Stewart is essentially playing the future version of McAvoy if that makes sense haha. If we get anymore future scenes or even future based conversations on things that happened in the past (1973-current) they'll be so much more interesting to me now.

I didn't love or hate the original x movies, but I'm actually really glad that those films won't have to be tiptoed around in any future outings now. I'd love to see them keeping this core FC group + Jackman (plus whomever they cast as young Jean/Scott/Storm) for as long as possible. I hope that after the next film parts of that core don't decide to opt out or sign back on.

Just realizing what this movie actually did for the franchise makes me so excited for whatever they have planned in the future.

 

[mkilban2]

So I assume that that means that young Xavier will remember what happened? We know that the OT characters only know the new timeline now, but will the 1973 characters remember what actually happened? Otherwise, why would that particular year register with old Xavier so much?

The way I see it is everyone in 1973 that was involved knows there was chaos in the future and that Logan was there to help alter that, but no one will know whether or not that what they did actually worked. The only clue of it working would be that Logan doesn't remember anything about it now in his 1973 body.

In the future (ending scene) Xavier knows what happened from 1973 on but it's never been with the Logan that joined him in that time, thus why he asked the What's the last thing you remember line once he realized that Logan's mind from 1973 when they met was back.

No one but Logan remembers anything that happened in the post apacalyptic timeline because none of them experienced it, Xavier (and to an extent Magneto, Raven, and Hank) only know there was an altered path cause they interacted with Logan (and the Xavier's face to face).

The OT characters really aren't the OT characters anymore in a way. The ones in 1973 know what happened then, but they don't know what happens after that until they experience it now.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

"whats the last thing you remember?"

I've never seen Steward play Xavier this way before, it was very interesting. That really set it in how different the time line is now

That's something that really struck me both times I've seen it. The way Stewart acts in that scene and talks to Logan feels like an older McAvoy, and not Prof X from the earlier films. It's a subtle difference, but noticeable. Not sure I like it, but it does emphasise that everything has changed

 

[mkilban2]

*Insert Patrick Stewart "Acting" gif. here*.

 

[Krak66]

Raven will make him her sex toy t: She has a weakness for Wolverine, remember X2?

 

[Loki882]

She apparently has a weakness for the "bad boys" in general. She tried to jump Wolverine's bones AFTER he stabbed her in X1 and she was practically throwing herself at Erik in FC. Then there were the implications in the OT that she and Magneto had a "closer" relationship than mere allies.

 

[DarkXorn]

It's probably been mentioned but did nobody notice Wolverine and Raven had little to no interaction in DOFP? They almost do in Paris, but he has the flashback time slip. Then at the final showdown Logan and Hank don't get to her before Magneto arrives, and Logan is cast into the river before Magneto rips the bunker from it's foundations. Adds more mystery to why she wants him. They had the "you're a cold hearted *****" altercation but even that was cut.

 

[Loki882]

In truth, I was kind of disappointed that we never really got to see Jackman and Lawrence interact onscreen. It would have been fun to see.

 

[Krak66]

All interaction was cut. Maybe when see deleted scenes we will get what Mystique motivation is.

 

[Golgo-13]

Raven will make him her sex toy t: She has a weakness for Wolverine, remember X2?

Isn't that because he stabbed her in X1? That hasn't happened yet.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

It's probably been mentioned but did nobody notice Wolverine and Raven had little to no interaction in DOFP? They almost do in Paris, but he has the flashback time slip. Then at the final showdown Logan and Hank don't get to her before Magneto arrives, and Logan is cast into the river before Magneto rips the bunker from it's foundations. Adds more mystery to why she wants him. They had the "you're a cold hearted *****" altercation but even that was cut.

True. Raven hasn't had the chance to meet Wolverine in the flesh.