The Dark Knight Rises Will Bane break Batman's back?

[Crev-3]

No. Recovering from a broken back with the pace Nolan keeps in these films wouldn't be feasible.

Remember the film takes place eight years after The Dark Knight. It could be that the beginning of the film takes place shortly after TDK and that's when Bane breaks Batman's back. Bruce Wayne doesn't get back into Batman shape until eight years later. By the way, the time jump would also explain why we see what looks to be Harvey Dent's funeral in the trailer. Perhaps, that's when Bane breaks Batman. Maybe it's the opening scene.

 

[Mr. Cy]

I don't think his back is going to get broken. I do however think that Batman's first encounter with Bane (with Bane having his way with Batman easily/could break some bones, much like their first encounter in the comics) is going to be tapped/recorded and distributed somehow for all of Gotham to see/or tapped so that he can show the footage to Talia Al Guhl.(I have a feeling of this because of the original trailer scene with the figure in the background and in Bane's first official photo and the camera-light in the backgound) Again, Bane always wanted to show Batman that he was his "better." He will leave Bruce alive and rot in the cell/hole he put him in. And really, Bane thinks he is doing right... and tries to liberate Gotham....but Batman will Rise and come back to defeat him.

How the rest of that works out, I leave to Nolan.

 

[tiger_a_K]

I do think Bruce will get his back broken... it is the most central theme of Bane's character, and Nolan's villains have been pretty consistent with the central elements from comics story arcs

1. Scarecrow; fear gas, mask, obsession with fear
2. Ra's; secretive, LOS, lazarus pit
3. Joker; Midnight killings (Long Hallowee'en story)
4. Two Face; double sided coin, Good-Dent gone wrong etc...

5. So BANE: He's gotta do the deed man! Even though Ra's never uttered the famous words and adddress Bats as "Detective.." all signs are pointing to Bane breaking the Bat, and I certainly hope/think that Nolan will treat us to the image we all want to see

Maybe the injuries won't be very apparent to the audience, the "back breaker move" might even just be part of a long fight sequence, but it has to be there!

 

[paladinryan]

If by "back" you mean "mask"...yes.

I thought Hardy already said there was a "nod" to him being broken in the comics, but they didn't break his back per se.

Actually, I think Gordon's back gets broken, from what we've seen in the teaser trailer. I don't think we'll see two back-breakings in one movie.

 

[tiger_a_K]

man imagine that.... Bane breaking Gordon's back? That would be awesome, a nod to the comic-fans, and certainly devastating to Bats. I'm no doctor but Gordon seemed to be rolling around in the hospital bed when speaking to hooded Bruce... not sure what his injury was

From trailer footage, it seems like Bats and Bane fight twice... once in the underground tunnel (where the breaking probably happens) and then the final fight at city hall

My guess is the underground fight is where Bats gets broken... and then found by all the GCPD/SWAT dudes who were running around from explosions. Maybe Bats spends the whole movie recuperating in the prison, just enough to fight again, this time with help (Catwoman, Talia?)

 

[CJ]

I don't know. The movie already features these plot points:

-Bruce going after Bane

-Bruce trying to catch Catwoman

-Possible romantic subplot with Bruce and Miranda.

-Bruce being imprisoned and trying to escape

I don't know how they are going to fit a "Bruce gets gravely injured and must recover" subplot with all of that going on in the movie too.

Bruce might just get a beating from Bane, while Gordon is the one with the broken back

(There's rumors of Gotham Police getting trapped in the sewers. Maybe the ceiling collapses on Gordon, breaking his back and putting him in the hospital. Bruce gets a severe beating by Bane, but not a broken back. Movie shifts to Bruce trying to escape Bane's prison, while Gordon makes a slow recovery off-screen in the hospital.)

 

[AnneFan]

I don't know how they are going to fit a "Bruce gets gravely injured and must recover" subplot with all of that going on in the movie too.

I agree. Again, I see Bane handing out a flogging that will make viewers wince. And Bruce will be left exhausted, barely able to move. From there I suspect he's taken away and thrown in his makeshift cell, where he slowly recovers and escapes.

 

[KalMart]

I don't know. The movie already features these plot points:

-Bruce going after Bane

-Bruce trying to catch Catwoman

-Possible romantic subplot with Bruce and Miranda.

-Bruce being imprisoned and trying to escape

I don't know how they are going to fit a "Bruce gets gravely injured and must recover" subplot with all of that going on in the movie too.

Just move it up a space after the romance...voilá.

 

[Parquagh]

I don't know. The movie already features these plot points:

-Bruce going after Bane

-Bruce trying to catch Catwoman

-Possible romantic subplot with Bruce and Miranda.

-Bruce being imprisoned and trying to escape

I don't know how they are going to fit a "Bruce gets gravely injured and must recover" subplot with all of that going on in the movie too.

Bruce might just get a beating from Bane, while Gordon is the one with the broken back

(There's rumors of Gotham Police getting trapped in the sewers. Maybe the ceiling collapses on Gordon, breaking his back and putting him in the hospital. Bruce gets a severe beating by Bane, but not a broken back. Movie shifts to Bruce trying to escape Bane's prison, while Gordon makes a slow recovery off-screen in the hospital.)

WHOA! is that confirmed?

 

[CJ]

There's rumors that Bane imprisons the wealthy of Gotham in an underground prison (The well from the teaser may be the only way out)

The newest trailer seems to confirm it.

 

[AnneFan]

Put it this way, the beating Bruce gets has to be something he can get over while in his cell. He has to be in a decent condition if he's going to climb up out. A broken back is out of the question.

 

[Parquagh]

I highly doubt Bruce gets injured AND trapped in 'Bane's jail'.
I mean, would he later go out in the Armani suit, being interviewed by the media when he's with the cane (Lambo scene), go to the Manor (trailer scenes) without expecting Bane's men would go after him? Come on guys...
More than a prision it seems to me some sort of place in which Bruce goes to understand Bane's origins and train to come back ready physically and mentally to defeat Bane after the beating...
Maybe Bane realizes this and sends his men after him, that would explain the guys entering the 'jail' hanging from their ropes like in a surprise attack...

 

[AnneFan]

I highly doubt Bruce gets injured AND trapped in 'Bane's jail'.
I mean, would he later go out in the Armani suit, being interviewed by the media when he's with the cane (Lambo scene), go to the Manor (trailer scenes) without expecting Bane's men would go after him? Come on guys...
More than a prision it seems to me some sort of place in which Bruce goes to understand Bane's origins and train to come back ready physically and mentally to defeat Bane after the beating...
Maybe Bane realizes this and sends his men after him, that would explain the guys entering the 'jail' hanging from their ropes like in a surprise attack...

I don't "highly doubt" Bruce getting locked up at all. Bane is looking down at him, taunting. You are assuming the cane sequences happen after his showdown with Bane. I don't think that's the case. Bruce will get all his parties in before Bane comes to town, because it's not going to be a fun place when he does. He'll probably learn about Bane when he's in there, but I don't see him wanting to be there in the first place.

 

[BestGirl]

I don't "highly doubt" Bruce getting locked up at all. Bane is looking down at him, taunting. You are assuming the cane sequences happen after his showdown with Bane. I don't think that's the case. Bruce will get all his parties in before Bane comes to town, because it's not going to be a fun place when he does. He'll probably learn about Bane when he's in there, but I don't see him wanting to be there in the first place.

I agree. I think Bruce will injure his leg early on the movie, maybe while escaping from the police, maybe just while breaking up an ordinary crime. The injury will symbolize how being Batman is starting to take a terrible physical toll on him and he'll contemplate retiring. In the meantime, he'll be living very reclusively and the party will be his first public appearance as Bruce in a long time, hence the reporters asking him where he's been.

 

[kvz5]

I agree. I think Bruce will injure his leg early on the movie, maybe while escaping from the police, maybe just while breaking up an ordinary crime. The injury will symbolize how being Batman is starting to take a terrible physical toll on him and he'll contemplate retiring. In the meantime, he'll be living very reclusively and the party will be his first public appearance as Bruce in a long time, hence the reporters asking him where he's been.

Agreed with this. Good points about Bruce stepping out of the limelight for a while which led to the reporters' questions.

 

[AnneFan]

I agree. I think Bruce will injure his leg early on the movie, maybe while escaping from the police, maybe just while breaking up an ordinary crime. The injury will symbolize how being Batman is starting to take a terrible physical toll on him and he'll contemplate retiring. In the meantime, he'll be living very reclusively and the party will be his first public appearance as Bruce in a long time, hence the reporters asking him where he's been.

Sounds right to me.

 

[sypher]

It's really hard to tell whether Nolan will do it or not.

I thought initially that Bruce using the cane was because of his years of crimefighting and over 8 years it took it's toll on his body. That he was still fighing crime even after TDK....but it didn't make sense somewhat as he seemed to go into hiding.

My thought.

Opening sequence is Bane on the plane. Then it goes to Harvey Dent's funeral at Wayne Manor where we see Bruce in the dark on the roof walking away...with no cane.

Bane makes his first appearance. Injures Gordon and Gordon asks for Batman to come back. Bruce of course is at his bedside with the ski mask on from Begins, mirroring the Begins scene, only this time Bruce is facing him.

Bruce dons the batsuit again and confronts Bane, but is outmatched and Bane breaks or severly injures Bruce and then Bruce ends up at the well. I think overall he is dunked in the Lazarus pit and is healed, but re-cooperating for sometime...but not for 8 years.

In that time John Blake and Co try to take a stand against Bane and co.

Bruce healed but using a cane, comes back to Gotham as you see Bruce in the reflection of the plate cover with the beard, cane and ragged clothes, with the manor furniture covered, just like in Begins.

As Bruce gets back to full health, he meets both Miranda and Selina, (which you see in the trailer as Bruce is cleaned up but using the cane) who come into his life and it goes from there....and one of the scenes nearing the end, mirroring Joker and the truck, Bruce, Catwoman, and Gordon team up to take on Bane and Co...as one of the clips shows the Batwing and the truck that Gordon highjacks.

I do think that the Lazarus Pit will play an important key in fixing Bruce, much like it probably did in healing Ra's and more importantly Bane, connecting them all...but with Nolan being a realist, it won't fix him overnight and as mentioned, it will take a couple weeks at most...as we see in the first trailer, he is working out in the cell getting his body into shape again....so that had to be after getting broken and being dunked in the pit.

I feel there will be a lot of full circle and mirroring moments in this film.

 

[DuceFace]

Here are my thoughts.

1. Whatever happens after TDK before the 8 year jump will have nothing to do with Bane. 8 years is a long time and that means that Bane would have spent 8 years dicking around and doing nothing while Bruce slowly recovers. So the cane must be from what happened to him at the end of TDK.

2. I'm not too sure about this, but I don't think that the scene of Bruce in the trailer with bloody face followed by Bane saying "with gotham is ashes, you have my permission to die" is actually going to be in the movie. First, Bane isn't talking in that scene, there is no movement in his throat (just speculation, maybe his throat really doesn't move when he talks). So I think they did what a lot of people do with trailers and they made up a scene implying something happens that doesn't. The reason I think this is because for Bane to say his line, Bruce would have to say something like, "just let me die", Bruce wouldn't say that so I don't think that is an actual scene in the movie.

3. Bane won't want to kill Bruce, Bane will want him to watch his city be destroyed while he can do nothing to stop it. If Bane really want's him to suffer, he will beat him to a pulp to show him who is boss, and then he will slowly destroy the city that bruce is trying to save.

I've also noticed that all of the spy pics from the production phase are all in the trailers. So everything that leaked online was not anything major other than Maranda. I think we're all probably wrong and this movie is going to blow away our wildest ideas.

3.

 

[tiger_a_K]

I initially thought that the Lazarus pit could help heal Bruce... especially once the spy-pics hit (of the green goo in india)... but it seems like only bad guys use the pit (in comics and cartoons) since it affects your mind, but it sure would be cool.

In terms of realism...Nolan has kept it very real. Even Ra's al-Ghul's "immortality" was mentioned to be a "trick" or deception (BB) when Bruce points out that Ducard was using different doubles to act as if Ras lived again and again while he pulled the strings. So since the whole "immortality" or "resurrection" theme of the pit is thrown out, then Bruce won't get healed by the pit.

Maybe the lava from the pit gives Bane his strength? we'll see

But I agree with Sypher, perhaps a more realistic pit could rehabilitate Wayne over the course of a week or a month. Maybe a love struck Talia will help Bruce recover after Bane destroys Gotham.

I mean we were led to believe that a blue flower could produce fear toxin, maybe a green pit of lava can heal a broken bone.

Back breaker please!

 

[tiger_a_K]

what i don't understand is........why would Bane keep Bruce alive in the prison? why not kill him? why would Bane let him heal?

Maybe Bane is taking orders from someone (Talia) who wants Bats alive?

Doesn't make any sense for Bane to keep Bruce alive just for punishment.... that's a classic movie-villain error.... gloating while they let the good guy heal just in time to foil their plot.

Bane isn't that simple, he's a cold blooded killer. If he keeps Bruce alive, it's for a purpose much bigger than pride. They must be trying to destroy "the legend."

I love the anticipation!

 

[DuceFace]

I'm pretty sure the green pit is a green screen for the pit that is used in the trailer where the people repel down it. It's about the same size and it makes sense that they would have a green screen for the people going into the pit. It won't be a lazarus pit, just an entrance to the prison.

 

[KalMart]

what i don't understand is........why would Bane keep Bruce alive in the prison? why not kill him? why would Bane let him heal?

Out of cruelty...to make him suffer more by witnessing Bane's conquest of Gotham. He doesn't want to just kill Batman...he wants to beat him, and he wants Batman to know that he's beaten.

 

[tiger_a_K]

hmmmmm yea you guys are right, Kal and Duce.

I guess cruelty is part of Bane's persona, and letting him live to see his city fall is pretty cruel.

Maybe Bruce play's up the injury, or fakes the extent of it by using a cane even if he doesn't need one, to trick Bane into thinking he's weak.. so that Bats can have an advantage in their final fight.... lending to the whole "deception" theme used by Ra's

as for the pits... ya I guess those shots in india could have been LOS head quarters, and what we thought were green pits were just green screens into the 1%er prison... too bad

was hoping to see some of this

 

[mignano]

When I first saw the trailer, I thought they were insinuating that Bane actually kills or paralyzes Batman, and true to the comics, someone else (Catwoman or Gordon's son as Azrael) takes up Batman's mantle and defeats Bane. The more insider info I hear, the less likely that scenario sounds though. Too bad, because that would make for a very dramatic and shocking Batman movie.

Maybe, when Bane breaks Batman "emotionally", he reveals Bruce to be Batman in public? And since Batman has been blamed for the crimes of Harvey Dent, Bruce then takes the fall, and is exiled from Gotham, with Wayne Enterprises being taken over by the enemy?

Or maybe Bane targets those closest to Bruce, taking out Lucius, Alfred, or Catwoman after she has become Bruce's ally/love interest?

 

[Chris M]

Maybe, when Bane breaks Batman "emotionally", he reveals Bruce to be Batman in public? And since Batman has been blamed for the crimes of Harvey Dent, Bruce then takes the fall, and is exiled from Gotham, with Wayne Enterprises being taken over by the enemy?

Interesting idea but I doubt it. Bane is with Batman on the whole symbolism kick, I think Bane has to beat Batman symbolically. It's Bane's ideology vs Batman's. Bane has to break the bat in front of the public and replace him as Gotham's symbol. So simply outing him as Bruce Wayne would be "cheating".