The Dark Knight Rises Why I think Rises will be better than TDK

[Godzilla2014]

I think pretty much everyone was looking forward to the Joker more than anything in the build up to TDK.

I was looking forward to seeing the continuation of the story of Batman Begins.

 

[GothamCitizen]

Im really looking forward to TDKR... a few things i would personally enjoy seeing:

*Two-Face cameo or role
*A Joker reference
*A proper fist fight between Bane / Batman
*Maybe even a scene with multiple bad guys together?

 

[Nevincer]

I was looking forward to seeing the continuation of the story of Batman Begins.

This.

 

[Godzilla2014]

This.

I knew I wasn't the only one!

 

[MrWayne]

TDK was a very high paced action thriller and was one action sequence to another and of course the Heat influence is felt... BB was more of a story telling with flashback sequences and great actions scenes in between..

I think the TDKR will be a culmination of the two. As we can tell already there will be some great action sequences along with a few flashbacks... This is going to be great!!

 

[munchie64]

I was looking forward to seeing the continuation of the story of Batman Begins.

Same with me. Although it was more for the fact it was another Batman film and not specifically because it was a Begins sequel.

 

[Patty]

TDK was a very high paced action thriller and was one action sequence to another and of course the Heat influence is felt... BB was more of a story telling with flashback sequences and great actions scenes in between..

I think the TDKR will be a culmination of the two. As we can tell already there will be some great action sequences along with a few flashbacks... This is going to be great!!

As long as I get my sexy bald buff Tom Hardy fix, Im gooooood.

 

[BatmanGoesToRio]

I think TDKR CAN beat TDK. TDK was a very good movie, but the only thing that was AMAZING was its villain and that made the whole movie a bit overrated! Villain-wise, Rises won't beat TDK. But that's the only category where it has no chance... otherwise it can turn out a better movie.

I agree with this.

 

[MrWayne]

I actually think that if they wrote Bane to be a total bad @$$ that he has a very good chance at giving Joker some competition. I know we are going to see scenes depicting Banes personality and viciousness that will make us go Ohhhhhh!!!! in the theater.


Much like the Jokers magic trick did (everyone in the theater loved that part) just a minute into his screen time with the mob meeting we get a taste of just how bad @$$ they had written Joker. Forward to a few other scenes where we see just how wild and unpredictable Joker can be along with the some good dialogue and not to mention just the overall acting in Heaths portrayal and TDK gave us one bad @$$ villain.


Now if TDKR gives us a Bane with some well written dialogue and some really wow moments by his Character to up the ante this go round which i think will happen, I can see Bane beating Joker for best Bat-villain.


In this movie all the stakes will be higher. Like most trilogies, it will all be bigger too. Bigger explosions, bigger fight and action sequences, bigger vehicles lol, bigger villain and bigger badassery FTW.

 

[Steampunk Ghost]

The Dark Knight was a great movie, of course, but no masterpiece. For all those who doubt that Rises can't top its predecessor, I wouldnt be so sure. I know, we barely know anything about this movie yet but I think its already sounding like a more interesting story. With TDK I felt like it focused more on joker rather than telling a rich, compelling story like Begins did. This movie has so much potential to be the best of the trilogy, with Nolan tying it back to Begins and making the series come full circle. I really feel like nolan has an incredible tale to tell to end the series.

Also, the cinematography looks fantastic so far, tons of great shots in the trailer. I really like the bleak and gritty feel to it, like the shot of Bane walking up to batman in the huge fight.. cannot wait

So I think with Rises it wont rely on a popular villain, but a flat out good story about Bruce/Batman. Not saying Bane wont be ****ing awesome, but I think the movie will be so much more than just Bane. What do you guys think?

i agree with you. i've been keeping up-to-date on everything TDKR, and it does promise awesomeness. i think that Bane looks amazing and will prove to be a hard-ass villain.

heres how i see it for Bane vs the Joker: the joker was a sociopathic terrorist, and just liked to kill people for the fun of it. Bane, on the other hand, seems to me more of an anarchist terrorist; he's totally against the government and justice systems and is willing to kill to take it down.

i may be wrong, but thats my opinion...

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Yeah, I doubt Hardy will make the audience love Bane. From what has been stated, Bane will be a villain that people will hate and fear. He won't be Heath's Joker, that's for sure.

Bane's popularity won't be an obstacle either (not that I'm saying The Joker's popularity overwhelmed TDK).

TDKR has the potential to top TDK, but it has yet to be seen. If the fight scenes have improved, the characters aren't kept as stoic figures, the Batvoice isnt over-edited and the overacting from the extras and minor characters is kept under control, then I'll consider this film a smashing success over its predecessor.

 

[Patty]

If Hardy is merely HALF of Heath was, we'll be in business.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

That's a bit insulting to Hardy. Tom isn't a mid-tier actor at all. He's a phenomenal actor. In fact, Hardy's resume overshadows Ledgers.

 

[Fudgie]

I don't think Bane will top Joker. Joker's the gold standard Batman villain.

Bane is too hard to understand anyway with that tarantula muzzle.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

And yet, on paper, Bane is the more threatening and versatile villain.

Eh, I heard Bane's dialogue quite fine and so have many others here.

 

[Fudgie]

Bane's not that versatile. He's a one trick pony who got fame because he made his debut by breaking Batman. He didn't earn a good status like Joker, Two Face and other real great Batman villains did.

Wait and see, Bane's muzzle will be having lots of people moaning they couldn't hear him properly.

 

[The Batman]

Fortunately, this will be Bane's only appearance in the trilogy...even if I'm not for it, I could see Joker appearing in back to back movies while still being entertaining...based on the comics, I cant say the same for Bane.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Once more, your Joker can be made to be a one-trick pony as well, and Bane has the potential to be Batman's greatest nemesis. It's all in the hands of the writers. The fact remains, The Joker lacks the physicality and athleticism that Bane possesses.

Yes, most of which will be nitpickers, trolls or the hearing-impaired.

 

[Figs]

I don't think Bane will top Joker. Joker's the gold standard Batman villain.

Bane is too hard to understand anyway with that tarantula muzzle.

I can understand some people having trouble hearing him in the prologue due to all the background noise, but he sounds perfectly fine in the trailer.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I can understand some people having trouble hearing him in the prologue due to all the background noise, but he sounds perfectly fine in the trailer.

Exactly, my 7 year old niece had no trouble understanding what Bane said in the trailer. So I can't comprehend how a few people out there had an issue deciphering Bane's one line of dialogue.

The prologue I can understand, considering the background noise is loud and some out there have only watched the bootleg version.

 

[MrWayne]

The thing with Joker is that hes been around since forever, and hes Batmans MAIN arch enemy. WE ALL LOVE THE JOKER. We grew up with the Joker, he's been a part of our lives as much as Batman and he's been in EVERY iteration of Batman we've ever gotten.

Even before Heath, Joker was awesome. Heath took it to another level of course and he owned it. But I also cant help but feel that his death made us love it even more. Almost like a underdog type of thing where you really want him to win, your looking at the performance of Heath as Joker feeling sad because of the loss of life, and also, of what could have been and what will never be. There's a soft spot we have for Joker, especially Heaths/Joker.

Bane is still fairly new compared to the longevity of Joker, he's not world renowned or synonymous with Batman the way Joker is. But I also do agree he has great potential to be Batmans greatest nemesis and its all up to the writing and how they portray Bane in TDKR. I really feel they will one up everything they did in TDK. This film will be heavy in dialogue, heavy on fight scenes and heavy on the action/suspense sequences all while Hans Zimmers score plays in the background of it all....

This film WILL be better than its predecessor for many reasons I believe.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

The thing with Joker is that hes been around since forever, and hes Batmans MAIN arch enemy. WE ALL LOVE THE JOKER. We grew up with the Joker, he's been a part of our lives as much as Batman and he's been in EVERY iteration of Batman we've ever gotten.

Even before Heath, Joker was awesome. Heath took it to another level of course and he owned it. But I also cant help but feel that his death made us love it even more. Almost like a underdog type of thing where you really want him to win, your looking at the performance of Heath as Joker feeling sad because of the loss of life, and also, of what could have been and what will never be. There's a soft spot we have for Joker, especially Heaths/Joker.

Bane is still fairly new compared to the longevity of Joker, he's not world renowned or synonymous with Batman the way Joker is. But I also do agree he has great potential to be Batmans greatest nemesis and its all up to the writing and how they portray Bane in TDKR. I really feel they will one up everything they did in TDK. This film will be heavy in dialogue, heavy on fight scenes and heavy on the action/suspense sequences all while Hans Zimmers score plays in the background of it all....

This film WILL be better than its predecessor for many reasons I believe.

I agree with you, The Joker deserves to be in the top spot in Batman's Rogue Gallery, he's earned it after nearly 80 years. He's not only experienced but the character in itself is appealing. The Joker's influence reaches beyond just comic books thanks to the television shows and films. Thus, making him an icon in pop culture.

Bane is relatively new to the scene but his presence has undoubtedly made an impact in such a short time. Now, whether or not it's from a single arc, that doesn't matter. The writers made Bane a brilliant (or cunning, genius, cerebral, etc -- whichever fans prefer to describe him) tactician/strategist who possesses immense strength, cardio, self-discipline, athleticism and hand-to-hand combat skills. He's far from a boring and/or doltish villain. So I can never fathom or the grip the criticism over Bane.

I mean, this is a guy who was born in prison, committed his first murder at the tender age of eight, master at linguistics, formed his own branch of mediation-calisthenics-martial arts, deciphered Batman's identity and then incapacitated him, overcame his Venom addiction, etc. So, how exactly is he a one-dimensional character or one-trick pony when the writers themselves made Bane the complete opposite?

 

[Gianakin_]

TDKR has the potential to top TDK, but it has yet to be seen. If the fight scenes have improved,

Perhaps.

the characters aren't kept as stoic figures,

No way they won't be.

the Batvoice isnt over-edited

Perhaps.

and the overacting from the extras and minor characters is kept under control, then I'll consider this film a smashing success over its predecessor.

Are the extras that important a factor for you? If that's the case, and judging from the CIA *****e, prepare to be disappointed.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

No way they won't be.

Judging from Alfred's admission in the trailer, chances are this film will be buried in emotion.

Are the extras that important a factor for you? If that's the case, and judging from the CIA *****e, prepare to be disappointed.

It's not a big factor, but it helps. The Harvey Dent Press-Conference still lingers in my mind from time to time.

Eh, the *****e's overacting wasn't memorable (similar to the Bank Manager from TDK).

 

[Gianakin_]

Judging from Alfred's admission in the trailer, chances are this film will be buried in emotion.

Did you infer something similar from the TDK back in '07? Or from the BB trailers? Both BB and TDK used their characters as themes. I don't see this changing.

Eh, the *****e's overacting wasn't memorable (similar to the Bank Manager from TDK).

And yet, everyone (here of course, nobody outside the SHH boards talks about him, or about the extras from BB and TDK) seems to be making a big deal about his overacting.