The Dark Knight Will it be too dark for the children?

[Infinity9999x]

I gaurantee you that if 12 yr olds ran the world, it would be nothing but porn, adult swim, Grand Theft Auto, and SpongeBob all the time. You couldnt scare a kid nowadays if you dressed up like Michael Jackson and set muppets on fire.

I totally agree. Today kids are so desensitized that you could let a crowd of them into a SAW movie and I would bet that 3/4ths of the crowd wouldn't bat an eyelash.

The 10-13 year old range of children today see a whole lot more then kids 10 to twenty years ago did. I don't even know if it's possible to make a Batman movie that will be too dark for children.

 

[batman11]

course not

Thank g-d. LOL

I actually thought you were telling the truth. t:

 

[1000 Miles]

Will it be too dark for the children?

Yes, hopefully so!

 

[CaptainClown]

This is a Rated R batman film in disguise

 

[SodaPop]

No one who sees a trailer with Batman and the Joker in it is going to suspect a movie called The Dark Knight to actually be about Batman!

So when the parents see Batman in the trailer, they'll probably just think it's a ridiculous ploy to get people into the theaters as they certainly wouldn't think of it being an actual Batman movie. Seriously, that idea just doesn't hold, not a single strand. As soon as people see Batman in the trailer they'll know it's a Batman movie.

That would be like someone thinking back in 1980 that people wouldn't see Empire Strikes Back because it didn't contain STAR WARS in the title. I'm sure even the idiots can realize that.

Around here every time i mention the joker, people ask me who that is. I've had to explain to people who batman is. So do you see where i'm coming from?

 

[Solidus]

To me it will be darker, too dark for childern, yes most likley. But a lot of PG-13 movies are pretty dark, when I was little I guess I had more intellegence then most of the other kids my age, and my father took me to R movies but explained the context of everything to me.

Now a-days kids are really annoying, they have no respect. I think this will be a movie where for the first few days kids will go, but I think when parents see it is dealing with darker matter they might hold their kids back some. And I think WB and Nolan know this, the kids have Hulk, Spidey, Superman, and Iron Man if they want more of a kid friendly PG-13 movie. But TDK I'm sure will be dark, I did not say Rated R, but close to it.

To me a movie that deserved an R and showed the broken process of the MPAA and how useless it is, is ROTK, that movie was quite gory, and filled with extreme violence *not that I'm against it at all* but still it was an R or boarderline R in my opinion. And Matrix Reloaded was not an R but a PG-13 with just an R rating.

To me I have a feeling that TDK will be some what like ROTK, pushing the limits, and could be R, but it won't be because anyone that knows anything about the MPAA a lot of times they are bought off. I'm sure TDK will be a Extreme PG-13, and hopefully it does keep away kids under 10. Because they can be the most annoying, and everyone in Spidey 3 brought their 4 year olds.

 

[the_monk]

That's like the first step, in three steps, of being gay.

First, it's like.. "you know, that kid in Batman Begins isn't ugly."

Then, it's like.. "I think I want to watch Batman Begins again, because I though that kid was kinda cute."

Then, it's like.. "I think I like dudes."

NEWSFLASH: Saying a child is ugly does not do anything to save your sexuality either.

And I hope it's dark. Parents complained the Episode 3 was too dark for their kids but that helped make it way better than the previous two piles. But in all seriousness, it's really about what the story calls for.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Around here every time i mention the joker, people ask me who that is. I've had to explain to people who batman is. So do you see where i'm coming from?

Oh lord, I feel sorry for you.

You need to come on over here to the US and A.

 

[Killing Joke926]

BatMan is strictly for teens and adults PERIOD!!! Children of our day and age have already ruined SpiderMan and I could care less about SuperMan; so HANDS OFF!!!!

 

[CaptainClown]

you forgot fantastic four

 

[cryptic name]

NOT that i am asking nolan to pull a schumacher, but do you guys think that this will be like Returns was and basically be a VERY adult, graphic bloody film with disturbing images, or will nolan kinda care about the younger audience as well? i mean, BB was not really a kids film, but kids could probably still enjoy it just like they did with B89 (*ahem* "batman will save us!" ). but TDK looks like its gonna be darker then BB was, especially with the joker interpretation this time, hence the title "the DARK knight". im not sure what news we have yet, but this looks like it may not be a film that will be enjoyed by kids at all. my little cousin loves batman and i want to see this with him, but i dont know if it will be....safe for him to see.

i hope it makes kids cry.

 

[Devan]

BatMan is strictly for teens and adults PERIOD!!! Children of our day and age have already ruined SpiderMan and I could care less about SuperMan; so HANDS OFF!!!!

ha, yeah right.

 

[Mr. Socko]

BatMan is strictly for teens and adults PERIOD!!! Children of our day and age have already ruined SpiderMan and I could care less about SuperMan; so HANDS OFF!!!!

 

[nickyg641]

I hate these people who want the Joker to eat babies and Batman to shoot the Joker in the face just because they want it to be "gritty". It's Batman. Not the f'ing Departed. Kids make up at least 50% of the profits for the Batman movies. Get over it.

And it wasn't the kids complaing about Batman Returns. It was the parents *****ing because they didn't want to have to take the time to explain to their kid the difference between a movie and reality. I swear, that's the reason kids do dumbass things that they see in a movie. Lazy parents.

 

[The Empire Ape]

BatMan is strictly for teens and adults PERIOD!!! Children of our day and age have already ruined SpiderMan and I could care less about SuperMan; so HANDS OFF!!!!

No, Batman has ALWAYS been "All Ages".

And, BTW, kids love the dark things.

 

[Solidus]

No, Batman has ALWAYS been "All Ages".

And, BTW, kids love the dark things.

Ahh not always. Maybe your thinking just in one term of media, like TV, yes they have SO FAR been targeted to all ages. But I bet you don't want a little 9 year old reading The Killing Joke, or Dark Knight Returns, or Batman Year One, or The Long Halloween even. Too much killing blood and gore.

And yea kids no matter what will snatch up the TDK toys, but thats not the main point that Nolan is driving to. You never here him in any interviews like you do with Sam, or Tim Story saying how it's for the kids. Nolan never ever says that. 10+ yea I can see that but I think TDK definatley will be darker then BB, and it's not so much what the kids see that will be scary it will be the context of what happens.

So no Batman has not always been about little kids. They got their movie versions with Joel, and now the grown ups are getting a version more towards their tastes. I just don't see how some people don't get this.

 

[nickyg641]

Ahh not always. Maybe your thinking just in one term of media, like TV, yes they have SO FAR been targeted to all ages. But I bet you don't want a little 9 year old reading The Killing Joke, or Dark Knight Returns, or Batman Year One, or The Long Halloween even. Too much killing blood and gore.

And yea kids no matter what will snatch up the TDK toys, but thats not the main point that Nolan is driving to. You never here him in any interviews like you do with Sam, or Tim Story saying how it's for the kids. Nolan never ever says that. 10+ yea I can see that but I think TDK definatley will be darker then BB, and it's not so much what the kids see that will be scary it will be the context of what happens.

So no Batman has not always been about little kids. They got their movie versions with Joel, and now the grown ups are getting a version more towards their tastes. I just don't see how some people don't get this.

All I'm saying is that just because the new series has maturer themes, doesn't mean it has to alienate kids completely.

 

[BubbaGump]

i hope it makes kids cry.

I hope it makes googleme cry.

 

[Argyle of Sock]

As a young child, I think that I would have been OK with the level of graphic content in BB, and also what I'm expecting from TDK as well. I think that, in addition to parents explaning content to their kids, intelligent children should be given the respect to decide for themselves whether they want to see a "dark, gritty" Batman movie.

At the same time, like nicky said, I also don't think that Batman should go so far as to completely alienate the kids. There should be a happy medium between what's kid-appropriate (albeit, barely) and what adult geeks will enjoy watching. BB came pretty close to perfect in that respect.

 

[Antithesis_SD]

Yeah. But they can also do another thing. My parents teached me "that a movie is a f'ing movie. Fantasy. Nothing else." And that they don't have to emulate them.

It seems, however, that they forgot the whole English part when they were teaching. Just joking.

But yeah, parents have to have a scapegoat when they make an error. Parents have this subconscious drive to never been seen as fallible, and try to pawn off their mistakes onto someone else by pointing a finger and crying wolf.

It's sad.

Some (as in most) parents are dumb as... stuff.

 

[Solidus]

As a young child, I think that I would have been OK with the level of graphic content in BB, and also what I'm expecting from TDK as well. I think that, in addition to parents explaning content to their kids, intelligent children should be given the respect to decide for themselves whether they want to see a "dark, gritty" Batman movie.

At the same time, like nicky said, I also don't think that Batman should go so far as to completely alienate the kids. There should be a happy medium between what's kid-appropriate (albeit, barely) and what adult geeks will enjoy watching. BB came pretty close to perfect in that respect.

I don't think it will completely alienate kids, but I think it will alienate them much more then BB did. It's pretty evident from things we have all ready heard and seen. Hospitals with people blowing up, pics of the Joker, the readings from the "Sides" Much more vicious then BB, and that much is clear.

 

[Naite22]

Will TDK be too dark for children? Let me answer that in words you'll be sure to understand. LET'S ****ING HOPE SO!!! If there's a superhero-franchise out there that's NOT for the children, it's this one! And it's not made for children either! That's what makes it so cool. I so hope that TDK is gonna be even darker than BB was, I prey every night that it is. It's gonna rock!

And not to be an ass, but if it's too dark for the kids, than they should stay the hell out of the theater, cause I honnestly dont care, and obviously Nolan doesn't either! And there's nothing wrong with that. The kids can enjoy practickly ALL other superhero-franchises. But this one is the bad-ass, and dark goes with that territory. The seriousness and darkness is what makes this particular franchise stand out from the others. Dont ever change that.

ps. Heath's Joker is destined to scare the kids, and propably all others too!

 

[Infinity9999x]

Besides that fact that I think it's impossible to make a Batman movie too "dark" for children in this day and age, I simply don't understand why everyone on these boards seems to think that we need a super dark or R rated Batman movie.

I have not yet read a Batman comic that I would say would warrant an R rating if translated to film, and that includes TDKR and Arkham Asylum.

To get an R rated movie in this day and age, it basically needs to be extremely violent and gory and include nudity. Since no Batman novels, even the more adult ones, contain this, why do we need an R rated Batman film? You don't need to make the film R rated to have it be a good Batman story.

 

[Naite22]

^ I wouldn't wanna see an R-rated Batman movie either, that's going too far... But as long as it's dark within a PG-13 rating, I say go for it! And by that I mean, if children can't handle that, then go see another movie.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Batman will always be PG-13 and acceptable to kids.

Most of us grew up on the early Batman films, what if they had been rated R and no one would have let us view them? I'm personally glad I've known and grown up with the character for so long. My childhood wouldn't have been the same without Batman.

The films shouldn't alienate kids, nor cater to them. But instead just be mindful that the content should be a great viewing experience for all ages.