Will we see a Venom that sucks?

[War Party]

Can you please answer the question? Also, consider the following:
"Who cares if it's not the same as the comics?" Well, for one thing people love this comic book character so, at what point does it sway so far away from the source material does it become an "in name only type of thing"?
Another thing that bugs me is kids thinking that this is how Spidey really is. Just like the ones who got mad at Batman Begins because "Joker killed Bruce's parents! This isn't accurate."

I'm sure the general public would like a more faithful version of Spider-Man just the same.

I don't see why they couldn't have done that.

Judging by X3, the general public don't seem to be too concerned on how faithful the movie was to the source. If the movie is great, I'm happy. Venom can be a skinny runt and a mirror image of Spider-man, but if it works, then there is no problem for me.

 

[War Party]

Thanks Slag. I was being jumped on for not falling in love with this.

I'm not jumping on you or attacking you. Like Slag said, people are allowed to express their opinions and that's what I'm doing. I'm just engaing in a discussion.

 

[Tangled Web]

Judging by X3, the general public don't seem to be too concerned on how faithful the movie was to the source. If the movie is great, I'm happy. Venom can be a skinny runt and a mirror image of Spider-man, but if it works, then there is no problem for me.

I know, but I'm just saying that a more faithful adaption would have made them just as happy, in addition to making the fans of the books happy.
= Batman Begins

 

[TheSlag]

A differing opinion? How is saying that Grace hasn't shown the acting ability yet and opinion? How is saying that A grey spider-man costume as the symbiote being unfaithful to the comics an opinion?

In her defense, I think she is/was saying that it's your opinion that Grace won't do justice to the role... in her opinion... he will.

Grace has not had the type of role that Brock should call for. IMO, this will be a break out performance or a dud for him. I doubt there will be much middle ground with how important a character it is, and a character with such a following.

 

[The Kid]

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i'm sticking to that philosophy. If they want to change things so much. Make a completely different movie instead.

 

[Spider-Fan]

If they put Venom as a full villain in this movie, he will definately suck. The fact he is going to be played by Topher Grace already doesn't bode well for Brock, but by trying to fit him in with the Sandman, you would have to limit the development of Harry's story, which is the aspect of SM3 I was looking forward to most. I am hoping they don't underscore this element for Venom. They might make more money, but the film won't measure up to the same quality Harry's story would provide.

 

[Tangled Web]

I'm not jumping on you or attacking you. Like Slag said, people are allowed to express their opinions and that's what I'm doing. I'm just engaing in a discussion.

Oh, you mean like telling me to "****" and saying that no one cares what I think, is discussion?

 

[TheSlag]

If they put Venom as a full villain in this movie, he will definately suck. The fact he is going to be played by Topher Grace already doesn't bode well for Brock, but by trying to fit him in with the Sandman, you would have to limit the development of Harry's story, which is the aspect of SM3 I was looking forward to most. I am hoping they don't underscore this element for Venom. They might make more money, but the film won't measure up to the same quality Harry's story would provide.

*BROTHER!!!!*

 

[TheCardPlayer]

Oh, you mean like telling me to "****" and saying that no one cares what I think, is discussion?

It's the same kind of discussion as : OMG! The movie sucked! All the fans are tards! lool1111111 the cmoic is bettar!

 

[TheSlag]

It's the same kind of discussion as : OMG! The movie sucked! All the fans are tards! lool1111111 the cmoic is bettar!

The man has a point there.

 

[War Party]

I know, but I'm just saying that a more faithful adaption would have made them just as happy, in addition to making the fans of the books happy.
= Batman Begins

It's possible a more faithful adaptation could made the general public just as happy. I'll agree with that. But I thought the first 2 did a great job with the important stuff and I'm happy with the results. The third one seems to be interesting, even though a lot of the are rumors. and Grace being Brock is intriguing and I look forward to seeing how it plays out.

 

[Tangled Web]

Grace has not had the type of role that Brock should call for. IMO, this will be a break out performance or a dud for him. I doubt there will be much middle ground with how important a character it is, and a character with such a following.

Yes, that's my opinion. I think that there are plenty of actors who have played these types of roles before, that would be better choices.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The "harm in that" is that people on this board seem to think their opinions are THE opinion. I regularly listen to whatever opinion people have. But if they go on like this, acting as if there is no such thing as a differeing opinion, I tend to get angery.

How is it harmful if you have your opinion. Too many people think you can't express a view contradictory to that of the popular opinion, and I think it is stupid. People complain that they present their opinions as facts. I think it should be understood that on a message board, it is almost all opinion, unless evidence is provided. I don't see the point in constantly complaining about other people's opinions. It is their view, live with it or debate it.

 

[Spider-Grrl1516]

This is turning into a war of Blind_Fury/"Why Is The Spider-Sense Bieng Ignored?" proportions...

 

[War Party]

Oh, you mean like telling me to "****" and saying that no one cares what I think, is discussion?

WAIT! What? When and where did I say this? I think you got the wrong poster man.

 

[Tangled Web]

It's the same kind of discussion as : OMG! The movie sucked! All the fans are tards! lool1111111 the cmoic is bettar!

It wouldn't have to be that way.

 

[TheSlag]

Yes, that's my opinion. I think that there are plenty of actors who have played these types of roles before, that would be better choices.

I do too. But... 1) You can't argue with their track record for selecting actors to play the willains to this point. a) Dafoe... Greatness. b) Molina... Greatness. (I was not sure about Molina at first news either).

And as far as Topher goes, while he would not have been my first choice, it is a selection that intrigues me. Just like Lowell as Sandy intrigues me (the actor... not the selection of the villain mind you )... but that's a different thread.

 

[The Kid]

Oh yes. Topher will definitely do well as venom.

 

[Tangled Web]

When I dislike something or disagree about something I post it once then I ****.

Do the same please. I'd be a great service.

Hmm. Plus I still have not had my question answered by you Card.

 

[Tangled Web]

I do too. But... 1) You can't argue with their track record for selecting actors to play the willains to this point. a) Dafoe... Greatness. b) Molina... Greatness. (I was not sure about Molina at first news either).

And as far as Topher goes, while he would not have been my first choice, it is a selection that intrigues me. Just like Lowell as Sandy intrigues me (the actor... not the selection of the villain mind you )... but that's a different thread.

Dafoe had already played crazy before (he has the creepy factor.) Molina was a villian in Luther. Buth Grace, hasn't been in anything that is even remotely "evil."

If they wanted Arnold Shwartzenegger to play Doc Ock, and I said that he doesn't look like Ock and hasn't been in a role where he has shown ability, would I get this kind of heat?

 

[War Party]

Oh yes. Topher will definitely do well as venom.

I have faith in Topher. I think he will deliver an Eddie Brock that will work well with this film. The casting has been good in my opinion for the first two, so this just seems like it will work. But we shall see in 2007.

 

[Tangled Web]

If you aren't going to answer my origional question, answer this:
If they wanted Arnold Shwartzenegger to play Doc Ock, and I said that he doesn't look like Ock and hasn't been in a role where he has shown ability, would I get this kind of heat?

 

[War Party]

Are you saying if Arnold wasn't famous yet? or he's already established as a big time actor?

 

[Tangled Web]

As famous as Topher.

 

[War Party]

As famous as Topher.

I wouldn't give you heat, I would just disagree with you. Actors need a chance to flourish and they get that chance by landing huge roles. Well, Topher has his opportunity with Spider-Man 3. I'm giving him a chance, because this is his first role where he's playing a totally different character from previous films. I'm intrigued to see what he does with it and I believe he's going to surprise people. And as far as I know, Arnold could make a good Ock, but we will never know.