Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[fobi]

It'll be released as planned. I don't see why anything other than that would happen.

 

[Marvel united]

It'll be released as planned. I don't see why anything other than that would happen.

Maybe on Hulu

 

[fobi]

Maybe on Hulu

What's the precedent for that? Besides the preference of a certain group of fans?

 

[Marvel united]

What's the precedent for that? Besides the preference of a certain group of fans?

Mowgli moving to Netflix (which had a budget comparable to this movie) when they bought the rights.

Plus I could see Feige being in the ear of Iger

 

[carpenter82]

What's the precedent for that? Besides the preference of a certain group of fans?

Now that the marketing is starting to kick in and deals have been made with multiple theaters and IMAX, the thought of this film not getting a theatrical release is laughable.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Well they have shareholders whose money is in Dark Phoenix. so there is alot more here then just oh a 150+ movie was made... lets put it on Hulu because we at Disney didn't make it.

Plus in the long run Disney won't be rushing anything with X-Men so they likely won't be biased so they can throw X-Men super quickly into the MCU. thats the believe many seem to think, but i'm willing to bet even without DP we will be waiting a while.

There is no reason not to release this movie.

 

[fobi]

So we've known for well over a year that the Fox verse will be coming to an end. I don't get the notion that the release of Dark Phoenix and/or New Mutants will have any effect on what Disney decides to do with them. That seems to be the main reason why some would like to see it cancelled or moved to streaming. One would think you'd have a little more faith in Disney and the MCU lol. Just because the films may leave a bad taste in your mouth, doesn't mean that it'll turn the general public off to seeing an new incarnation of the franchise. People are largely going to eat up a superhero movie regardless, especially one coming from Disney. Don't stress yourselves on whether or not Disney will release them because that's what you would like to see and just celebrate the fact that the MCU version will be here in the not too distant future. Lol

 

[Marvel united]

Well if the movie is bad, it could severely damage the brand. We just learned yesterday that Fant4stic bombing delayed Gambit. Who knows what kind of effects this movie flopping would have on the longterm viabilty of the X-Men brand. Marvel will have to properly set up mutants in the MCU and there will be characters in this movie (namely Jean, Charles) who will be damaged goods.

That's why people are hoping the movie will use as less from the X-Men lore as possible. I'm glad Dazzler and Psylocke are not in this movie. And I hope Daniel isn't playing Gladiator and Chastain is an original character

 

[GuestStar2004]

Its fair to say whatever Disney will do with X-Men won't be what people think it will be. for example. alot of people look past alot of the technical issues that would come with putting the X-Men into a mutantless MCU and thats gonna be a much bigger thing to have to get around, and chances are some liberties with the X-Men lore in order to make that work.

The X-Men would be part of the MCU Lore first and foremost, the MCU won't be part of the X-Men lore.

Its gonna be a while before you hear anything about an actual X-Men team movie. and any characters that will be used will probably be minor characters no one would think Marvel would wanna use.

People also tend to think SM3 and TASM2 damage the spider-man brand... but people are underestimating the brands..

 

[sleekstereo]

Deal closes on the 20th. Now the question is - what will Disney do with this movie?

Disney will take over marketing and will promote it as the last XMen movie for this universe. The movie will be released and will make it's money in International markets primarily. We'll get an announcement at D23 of the reboot.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Disney won't do anything to jeopardize Dark Phoenix. so i kinda doubt it will be marketed as the last one. FOX didn't print Jackmans last movie all over Logan either.

Would it benefit the movie to market it as the last one? if not then sometimes its better to not say anything till the film has been out a while.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Dark Phoenix's Jessica Chastain Told Sophie Turner To Stand Up For Herself To Co-Star

Oh oh trouble in paradise:

At one point during production for Dark Phoenix, a male co-star, who [Turner] didn't name, "walked off set" when it was her time to say her lines, resulting in a writer standing in for him. Jessica Chastain had to talk to Turner and convince her to talk to the actor.

“I actually have a really big problem with not being able to stand up for myself. Especially if I’m arguing against a man. [Dark Phoenix co-star] Jessica Chastain is the one that said it to me, ‘You need to stand up for yourself more! She [Jessica] said, ‘Just go and talk to him, go and say something to him!’ I’m a bit of a shy, pushover person, but I’m getting there, I’m working on it.”

Dark Phoenix's production overall wasn't a walk in the park. The film's release was pushed back a couple of times, ultimately landing a June 2019 roll out. And the cast and crew had to return for reshoots. But nothing personal like this has ever come to light before. One wonders what was ultimately done to address the incident. Based on Turner's account, it sounds like there were a good number of other people around when it happened. Hopefully, things were resolved in a satisfactory manner.

This story will likely pique the interest of many fans, and fuel speculation as Dark Phoenix's release draws nearer. Considering that the movie isn't adding any new actors playing a prominent role other than Chastain (whose villainous role remains a big mystery), the culprit is likely one of the original cast of characters from this prequel timeline. That makes things more intriguing, since Turner has worked with all of them before. Looking at the trailers, it appears that Turner will have interactions with McAvoy, Fassbender and Sheridan - since Jean and Scott's love affair will supposedly play a pivotal part in the narrative. As to which of them it may be, that's anyone's guess at this point. Perhaps Turner will eventually name the actor once the movie is out.

And here I thought
Chastain:

“But working with Simon and Hutch and Sophie was the most loving, strong, happy set.”

Lawrence:

“It was unrecognizable. Everything was on time. Everything was organized. These movies have always been fun amidst chaos, and now they were fun with no chaos.”

 

[Mysteryman]

One disagreement on set doesn’t mean chaos.

 

[x-er]

Oh oh trouble in paradise:

Gotta be Michael Fassbender. I've missed Ian McKellen...

But that's not why I think that. It's just Sophie has worked with all other cast members before and Fassbender's the one who got to have the unnecessary "character development" scene in Apocalypse. That's the way they treat the stars of X-men nowadays and fame can get to people's heads sometimes. personally, I've never liked him in anything else I've watched but I do think he did Magneto justice in DOFP.

 

[GuestStar2004]

But that's not why I think that. It's just Sophie has worked with all other cast members before and Fassbender's the one who got to have the unnecessary "character development" scene in Apocalypse. That's the way they treat the stars of X-men nowadays and fame can get to people's heads sometimes. personally, I've never liked him in anything else I've watched but I do think he did Magneto justice in DOFP.

Your logic puzzles me sometimes.

 

[EnDz0n3]

This "Michael Fassbender?

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[x-er]

Your logic puzzles me sometimes.

why?

for the record, I've watched all of Game of Thrones and never skipped a Sophie Turner scene. As an average spectator I don't see why anyone would walk out on her; if you're too good for this, why not just f*** off and make movies somewhere else? I've said the same thing about Lawrence before.

 

[x-er]

I hope Marvel casts actors who value both the source material (X-Men comics) and the opportunity to make some people happy being in a darned superhero film. This stuff has an impact on our culture in the end. Hope they opt for team players with talent and chemistry over big names.

 

[GuestStar2004]

why?

for the record, I've watched all of Game of Thrones and never skipped a Sophie Turner scene. As an average spectator I don't see why anyone would walk out on her; if you're too good for this, why not just f*** off and make movies somewhere else? I've said the same thing about Lawrence before.

Because you base your logic is on them being in these movies when you feel they shouldn't, which means their egos must be up to no good to make it happen, which mean he must be guilty as charged for whatever.

Could have been Mcavoy, but then Mcavoy is Xavier so probably not.

Whoever it was i very much doubt it has anything to do with their status with the X-Men movies.

 

[ciscostudent561]

Its fair to say whatever Disney will do with X-Men won't be what people think it will be. for example. alot of people look past alot of the technical issues that would come with putting the X-Men into a mutantless MCU and thats gonna be a much bigger thing to have to get around, and chances are some liberties with the X-Men lore in order to make that work.

The X-Men would be part of the MCU Lore first and foremost, the MCU won't be part of the X-Men lore.

Its gonna be a while before you hear anything about an actual X-Men team movie. and any characters that will be used will probably be minor characters no one would think Marvel would wanna use.
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interesting note: marvel.com listed scarlet witch as mutant, on an mcu power ranking...

 

[Frankeh]

Its fair to say whatever Disney will do with X-Men won't be what people think it will be. for example. alot of people look past alot of the technical issues that would come with putting the X-Men into a mutantless MCU and thats gonna be a much bigger thing to have to get around, and chances are some liberties with the X-Men lore in order to make that work.

Its gonna be a while before you hear anything about an actual X-Men team movie. and any characters that will be used will probably be minor characters no one would think Marvel would wanna use.

A lot of assumptions you just made right there.

Wasn't Ben Hardy not playing Angel according to you?

Weren't the costumes from the ending of Apocalypse for sure being used in Dark Phoenix?

On to the Turner incident...

Yikes. Someone was being a diva on set.

 

[StarLord]

if you're too good for this, why not just f*** off and make movies somewhere else? I've said the same thing about Lawrence before.

Probably because they are under some sort of contract and FOX could possibly sue them.

 

[EnDz0n3]

The FC cast's contracts had to be renegotiated for Dark Phoenix. They were only contracted for the first 3.

In fact, the article that first mentioned Lawrence and Fassbender were coming back for Dark Phoenix name-dropped those two specifically as having had a big increase in salary for this movie.

 

[x-er]

Because you base your logic is on them being in these movies when you feel they shouldn't, which means their egos must be up to no good to make it happen, which mean he must be guilty as charged for whatever.

Could have been Mcavoy, but then Mcavoy is Xavier so probably not.

Whoever it was i very much doubt it has anything to do with their status with the X-Men movies.

you're right, i shouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly. It's their fourth film though and I still miss the original cast. That's all it is for me.

 

[ciscostudent561]

you're right, i shouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly. It's their fourth film though and I still miss the original cast. That's all it is for me.

lol tho no fault of their own (crappy writing and underwhelming character development never mind being inept skillwise) the OC was forgettable. great actors but limited by outside factors