Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15


Here's a quote from Kinberg in this interview that I find...interesting to say the least.

The third act is something you were still tweaking later in the game with reshoots. What were you looking to change?

With the Avengers movies, there are inevitably pickups you do when you are making the movie. You build it into the budget and the schedule. They know exactly when they are going to do it.

On the Fox/Marvel movies, we have never done that. We probably should have, because it just makes life easier. Getting this kind of cast all at the same place at the same time is not an easy thing to do. They go off and they have other things going on.…

In postproduction of the film, what I felt in watching the third act of the movie…this film is so much about the family that was established in X-Men: First Class.... It's this family of outsiders and outcasts, strangers who come together to form this surrogate family and over the span of these movies have conflicts, but mostly their conflicts are with the outside villains, so the family is tested but remains together. This is a film that would tear the family apart.

What I felt in watching the third act of the film [before reshoots] is it didn't fully pay off, the reconciliation of that family. There was not the kind of catharsis I wanted the audience to have where having gone through all of the trauma with this family that you as an audience have gone through with them, you want to see them come together at the end. You want to see them come together in a different form at the end, a more mature form. When you heal, you get stronger, but you're different from it. I wanted the third act to reflect that and so we went back and did pickups to really create for me what was a more satisfying, cathartic ending.

I recommend the rest of you read the whole interview that I've linked. Nothing too earth-shattering in terms of revelations but its a good read nonetheless.
 
It is DP. We'll see. It's just a few days, I honestly don't care. The Manabytes of the world (and whoever that person is) aren't the only people reviewing Dark Phoenix.

yes, it's what keeps me a bit optimistic
I do not expect a good evaluation from bloggers who have been attacking this film for more than 1 year, I just hope that this whole toxic situation has not hit people with credibility.
 
I am intrigued if the film gets a rotten rt rating, how will Kinberg react to it? After all, this is his 2nd adaptation of the Dark Phoenix saga, and if its rotten, it will be his fourth Marvel film to get a rotten rating. I don't know any writer that got another chance when it comes to being involved in a Marvel film after 3 misfires.
 
Why is Dark Phoenix trending on twitter now?

Well Godzilla already came out so the next thing to talk about is Dark Phoenix, Fox sent a giant promo email this morning, ect. I would be concerned if it wasn’t at this stage.
 
Disney marketing machine at its best. Whole cast on Kimmel.
 
I wonder if they’re literally going to cross right into the premier because they’re across the street from each other! Gonna be a good day.
 
Storm and Nightcrawler arent important enough to be on the late night show?

I guess they will be involved minimally in the film.
 
I think thats pretty obvious, given how the last three films are dominated by Magneto, Raven and Xavier.
Disney marketing machine at its best. Whole cast on Kimmel.
They don't even have Storm to be in it. No wonder why Alexandra Shipp was ranting about her role.
 
They don't even have Storm to be in it. No wonder why Alexandra Shipp was ranting about her role.
I spoke too soon lol
Storm and Nightcrawler arent important enough to be on the late night show?

I guess they will be involved minimally in the film.
Kodi’s and Evan’s names aren’t even on the poster.
 
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I wonder if they’re literally going to cross right into the premier because they’re across the street from each other! Gonna be a good day.

If this is the case.... what comes first usually?? The interview or premiere?? Obviously the interview is broadcast later but which does the cast do first??
 
If this is the case.... what comes first usually?? The interview or premiere?? Obviously the interview is broadcast later but which does the cast do first??

Definitely the interviews first, Kimmel films mid day usually. Knowing how that show usually goes, they’ll probably bring the whole thing outside anyway in some way.
 
How will people and naysayers feel after Kinberg’s deft approach wins over critics and fans? What will happen then? Obviously Feige will discuss things with him moving forward.

Kinberg is an excellent marksman of a writer; sharp pure craftsmanship with stunning clarity at work. The reasons some of the films he’s written haven’t necessarily met the mark so to speak is because of bad direction and unskilled actors

He has singlehandedly saved New Mutants and the good scenes in Fantastic Four were his.

Just wait and watch. This will strike massive gold with the critics because as a debut director he is already showing signs of pure mastery. The helicopter clip, the crisp editing, fresh highly tonal and razor edge cinematography, and acting thus far are sublime. Please learn to trust him and see his love for these characters. Seeing the Xavier and Magneto conflict in the context of Dark Phoenix will be stunning. No writer has ever given such a detailed classy story arc to a villain like Mystique ever before

Lets wait for Dark Phoenix!
 
Idk... Im gonna see it, i went to see every x men film in cinema since i was 10.. But i expect nothing.
I only hope kinberg never approaches anything comic book related ever again. Ive had enough of that hack.
Normally I would go hurry and see it in the opening day, but I think this is the first X-Men team movie in ages that I wouldn't be doing that.
 

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