Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

I'm glad we can ALL just finally sit back and agree that Kinberg is a hack and we don't have to explain ourselves. Most of us have been at that space since at least 2017 when he was announced as this movie's director.

A few since 2006 when TLS came out...

Welcome the rest of y'all.
I feel like hack is strong. He kind of reminds me of Goyer, in that he has decent to even great ideas. But you need someone else to craft them into reality and put their foot down when necessary. Although it does boggle my mind that he spent so long working on X-Men and seemingly never even did a wiki search on the characters.
 
Yea Id agree with that I think coming out after EndGame and Captain Marvel probably hurt the film. If it came out before it could have stood on its own more. And had more room to.breath.
Captain Marvel and Endgame are not the issue here. Shazam came out inbetween both and critics liked it plenty.
 
I feel like hack is strong. He kind of reminds me of Goyer, in that he has decent to even great ideas. But you need someone else to craft them into reality and put their foot down when necessary. Although it does boggle my mind that spent so long working on X-Men and seemingly never even did a wiki search on the characters.

I mean same writer for X-Men 3 which ended with Rogue taking the mutant cure so she could touch Bobby. Even though we learn the cure is possibly temporary anyway. Like why would they do that?

Why not have Rogue go to the final battle instead to save everyone? She could've helped knock out Jean or Magneto or something.
 
I mean same writer for X-Men 3 which ended with Rogue taking the mutant cure so she could touch Bobby. Even though we learn the cure is possibly temporary anyway. Like why would they do that?

Why not have Rogue go to the final battle instead to save everyone? She could've helped knock out Jean or Magneto or something.
Because the studio was only going to pay for a certain amount of powers and Rogue would have broke everything. :o

Also I assume the ending was all setup for X4 but then you know... yeah. :funny:
 
I’m just so bummed that this is how the Fox X-Men is going out. I knew Simon was gonna F this up but I just had hope that he could just get it over the line for this to end almost 20 years of this franchise and series. It’ll never take away what once was with DoFP, First Class and X2. But this for me just continues to solidify my faith in Marvel. I just want them to introduce mutants ASAP. Even a character here or there so I can finally see them done justice.
 
I know. I hate that we could be years away.

Spidey fans really got lucky after ASM2

Not this Spidey fan. I love ASM2 and Homecoming is just not what I want out of Spidey.

At least I have the PS4 game, which is my ideal Spidey!
 
2 guys from Electric playground (if any of you remember that) actually really liked it. Pretty glowing review compared to everyone else. They say Cyclops is finally done justice and the emotional moments do resonate.



I’m curious to see if I’m gonna like this as much. I feel like some fans here WILL really dig this, and I’m happy for that. As long as you know what to expect. This is not an MCU movie.
 
2 guys from Electric playground (if any of you remember that) actually really liked it. Pretty glowing review compared to everyone else. They say Cyclops is finally done justice and the emotional moments do resonate.



I’m curious to see if I’m gonna like this as much. I feel like some fans here WILL really dig this, and I’m happy for that. As long as you know what to expect. This is not an MCU movie.

What does this mean? If all people went in to all superhero flicks expecting MCU, stuff like Logan, Wonder Woman and Aquaman would have been killed. They weren't.
 
I'll go in with an open mind. Have my back to back viewing with First Class, DOFP, Apocalypse & Dark Phoenix this Saturday. So far, this reminds me of the situation with Apocalypse, but to a much bigger degree. I went into Apocalypse expecting the worst thing ever and ended up actually enjoying it. This will most likely be similar from everything I've seen and heard.

Why not have Rogue go to the final battle instead to save everyone? She could've helped knock out Jean or Magneto or something.
The cure stuff was dumb, but she wasn't in the battle for the same reason Mystique was taken out. Because of the actors not being available to shoot those scenes. That's not on the writers. What they did with the character in the time they had, of course, IS their fault.
 
Also based on the photos at the red carpet has Jennifer Lawrence had work done on her face? Her face looks so tight and unmoving
 
What does this mean? If all people went in to all superhero flicks expecting MCU, stuff like Logan, Wonder Woman and Aquaman would have been killed. They weren't.

There’s a base quality people do expect and lean on, which is the MCU. It’s essentially the lowest bar now. Those movies you mentioned are still compared with the MCU at every turn, but are great in their own right. I mean that this is definitively the LAST Fox X-Men film that we will get, in every sense of the way, The raw, grounded, gritty, sometimes try-hard over the top nonsense that Fox has featured. The film makes choices that we will never see again. Which, can be a good or bad thing depending on your viewpoint. All I’m saying dude.
 
There’s a base quality people do expect and lean on, which is the MCU. It’s essentially the lowest bar now. Those movies you mentioned are still compared with the MCU at every turn, but are great in their own right. I mean that this is definitively the LAST Fox X-Men film that we will get, in every sense of the way, The raw, grounded, gritty, sometimes try-hard over the top nonsense that Fox has featured. The film makes choices that we will never see again. Which, can be a good or bad thing depending on your viewpoint. All I’m saying dude.
Honestly, this does not read like an endorsement of anything other then lower your expectations and you might have fun. Which is cool, but I don't know what that says about the movie itself.
 
Also based on the photos at the red carpet has Jennifer Lawrence had work done on her face? Her face looks so tight and unmoving
She was showing her method acting for Raven, one last time. :o
 
Honestly, this does not read like an endorsement of anything other then lower your expectations and you might have fun. Which is cool, but I don't know what that says about the movie itself.

Pretty much. I’m not trying to endorse anything other than forming ones own opinion. And maybe having proper expectations will help your enjoyment. If you dig that Fox thang, then having this movie lean so hard into it, may be a positive to certain individuals.

I’m anticipating this because I have no idea how I’m going to feel. I feel like that’s rare now a days. Or maybe I haven’t willingly or accidentally paid for a “bad” movie in a very, very long time, haha.
 
Shame. I wanted this to be a good send-off.... but we all knew it wouldn’t be.
 
I dont care about RT score, cause its unfair most of times! I mostly see people say it isnt good as x2 or dofp mas is better than x3 or apocslipse... so i dont understand the score. Should be higher nevertheless
 
I dont care about RT score, cause its unfair most of times! I mostly see people say it isnt good as x2 or dofp mas is better than x3 or apocslipse... so i dont understand the score. Should be higher nevertheless
I agree but also you have to take in account that if this movie is just doing the same thing with the characters over and over again with the focus on Charles/Eric, Raven and Hank in human form, lack of Storm etc it’s just the same repeated mistakes and that’s probably why most of the reviews are like it’s more of the same and it’s just meh.
 
Already saw it and i didn’t like it!!! Too bad this movie had great actors not even closer to logan.
 

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