Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[Blade Hoarder]

Dark Phoenix isn't weird enough to be a cult classic.

 

[Hand Banana]

Dark Phoenix isn't weird enough to be a cult classic.

I think an extended/alternate cut(which I believe will be released) probably will be. What Icekid described sounds so much better.

 

[Sage2016]

Needs more Tim Curry is stockings to be a cult classic.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

I think an extended/alternate cut(which I believe will be released) probably will be. What Icekid described sounds so much better.

Release the kinberg cut.

Jesus christ. All these aggrieved fanboys go through the same arc.

 

[Alison Blaire]

Longtime X-Men Producer Says She Had Nothing to Do With Dark Phoenix or Apocalypse

 

[Karl Tanner]

Sophie Turner's performance was awful and I'm convinced that she can't be a lead actress in any role. She's also not beautiful enough to make up for her so-so acting skills.

 

[Dark Raven]

Sophie Turner's performance was awful and I'm convinced that she can't be a lead actress in any role.

She could star as Boy George in the upcoming Boy George biopic. That could be her star turn.

 

[icekid]

Donner wanted a version of Apocalypse that would have seen the OT face of against him. DoFP in her eyes was a reset to continue with the OT, and we would have LOVED that.

So would have everyone else. That’s why she’s distancing herself with anything to do with this new cast. She never had anything to do with them.

 

[kevork89]

Longtime X-Men Producer Says She Had Nothing to Do With Dark Phoenix or Apocalypse

Not surprised though tbh she was heavily involved with DoFP and every film prior to that and Deadpool to get them off the ground as well as Gambit. And then from Apocalypse onwards it seemed like she was never involved with anything and Hutch took over.

 

[Abudefduf]

Donner wanted a version of Apocalypse that would have seen the OT face of against him. DoFP in her eyes was a reset to continue with the OT, and we would have LOVED that.

So would have everyone else. That’s why she’s distancing herself with anything to do with this new cast. She never had anything to do with them.

Interesting. Why did she produce First Class then?

 

[Hand Banana]

Sophie Turner's performance was awful and I'm convinced that she can't be a lead actress in any role. She's also not beautiful enough to make up for her so-so acting skills.

Strongly disagree you there. Thought she was good and that seems to be the census about her performance.

 

[InCali]

I just got back from it and didn't hate it (but I'm a lousy critic and am easily entertained). It was sure as heck better than Last Stand (how's that for high praise?). I'm glad X-Men is back with Marvel. I feel pretty sure they'll pick up the pace, but, unfortunately, X-Men are going to have to go into a period of hibernation. Thanks Fox.

 

[icekid]

Interesting. Why did she produce First Class then?

The script for First Class evolved out of what used to be X-Men Origins: Magneto.

 

[InCali]

Sophie Turner's performance was awful and I'm convinced that she can't be a lead actress in any role. She's also not beautiful enough to make up for her so-so acting skills.

I didn't think she was terrible. I thought McAvoy and Fassbender underperformed, but they are both really fine actors and I'm not going to blame them. Everything was just sort of okay.

 

[kevork89]

Donner wanted a version of Apocalypse that would have seen the OT face of against him. DoFP in her eyes was a reset to continue with the OT, and we would have LOVED that.

So would have everyone else. That’s why she’s distancing herself with anything to do with this new cast. She never had anything to do with them.

Ugh this just frustrates me. We could’ve had Apocalypse facing the reset timelines cast of James, Hugh, Famke, Anna, Halle, Ellen etc. Disappointed!!!

 

[icekid]

Ugh this just frustrates me. We could’ve had Apocalypse facing the reset timelines cast of James, Hugh, Famke, Anna, Halle, Ellen etc. Disappointed!!!

It never even got beyond an idea though. She also had to back out because of other accusations that never gained traction.

 

[Detective Conan]

Donner wanted a version of Apocalypse that would have seen the OT face of against him. DoFP in her eyes was a reset to continue with the OT, and we would have LOVED that.

So would have everyone else. That’s why she’s distancing herself with anything to do with this new cast. She never had anything to do with them.

That’s remarkably similar to what Claremont had in mind for how to continue on with the movies past DOFP. Chris Claremont has said he had preferred Apocalypse be set in the present and he would’ve had Sophie Turner be cast as Jean’s daughter instead of just being cast as a younger version of her in the altered timeline.

 

[Hand Banana]

Release the kinberg cut.

Jesus christ. All these aggrieved fanboys go through the same arc.

What is wrong with wanting to see a fleshed out version of this film’s rushed and undercooked storyline?

 

[Hand Banana]

That’s remarkably similar to what Claremont had in mine for how continue on with the movies past DOFP. Chris Claremont has said he had preferred Apocalypse be set in the present and he would’ve had Sophie Turner be cast as Jean’s daughter instead of just being cast as a younger version her in the changed timeline.

Can I get a link to this, please?

 

[X-Maniac]

Well, I went to see it tonight. A friend i was going with couldn't make it so I had to rush and then got stuck in traffic diversions, so I was late - the regular version had started so I opted for the 3D version starting shortly afterwards.

I'll post full thoughts in the review section but, basically, I do think it went out with a bit of a whimper.

Everything from (and including) what people keep calling the 'forest party' (actually on the grounds of the mansion estate) felt rushed and chopped. The film seemed to shrink as it went on, despite all the set pieces, and it all felt a bit flat by the end. I walked out with a 'well, that was... ohhhkay' feeling...

 

[Detective Conan]

Can I get a link to this, please?

He said this in a video interview.

I'm spoiler tagging this vid since it does have a few F bombs in it.

He begins talking about it at 32: 25.

Warning Spoiler tagged For Strong Language.

Spoiler

His pitch is actually really interesting. I also dig his take on how he'd do the Dark Phoenix saga cinematically. Fox should've taken notes but hey they don't even exist anymore so it is what it is.

 

[The Batman]

I'm not sad that this is the way the Fox Men run is ending. The saga that started with X1 already ended in DOFP.

Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix are merely Fox's version of the Amazing Spider-Man films. The First Class series went from being "soft reboot" Prequels to becoming a poorly executed reboot.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[psylockolussus]

Lauren fought to keep the original cast

I remember she said that X4 leads to X5 back in 2011.

Donner wanted a version of Apocalypse that would have seen the OT face of against him. DoFP in her eyes was a reset to continue with the OT, and we would have LOVED that.

So would have everyone else. That’s why she’s distancing herself with anything to do with this new cast. She never had anything to do with them.

See, Dofp was really the X4 she pitched to foX.

Good riddance to whoever thought passing the torch to the younger version was a great idea... oh let me guess, he directed Dark PhoeniX.

 

[Frankeh]

Lauren fought to keep the original cast

I feel a bit vindicated by this. I always said the same thing "Original Cast should have starred in Apocalypse" especially after the movie turned out so dissappointing. Original Cast would have saved us all the origin story shenanigans and actually given us seasoned X-Men going against their "biggest" threat yet.

I'm not against that kind of origin story at all, but if you're doing Apocalypse and selling him as their biggest foe, it is underwhelming. Especially when you're saying the Ancient Mutant rises in the present... in the 80's? meh.

I think there would have definitely been more hype for that cast going against him rather than newbies.