Dark Phoenix X-Men: Dark Phoenix News and Speculation Thread

[psylockolussus]

I remember this guy now, dude signed up to rant on psylockcolossus.

Who are you talking about?

 

[RalphieRandy]

Who are you talking about?

Come on, psy!! You remember when I first commented on here I said something about your constant negativity. Which by the way I still haven't really seen you say anything that isn't a negative criticism, especially if it doesn't involve your precious original, present day cast.

But people can pretend I'm the only one who said anything. Not like others have pointed it out.

Wait, others did.

 

[psylockolussus]

I don't know you.

Anyway.gif, there's no big reason to be positive about this film as of NOW. The last film was torn apart by critics (a first for the series since Origins) and it underperformed, to the surprise of its supporters.

Kinberg who we all know has a bad track record is left alone to direct and write. Magneto and Raven are back, two characters that people are tired of. We know nothing about who will design the costumes, who will compose, who will handle the cinematography. There's basically nothing to be positive about unless you are really into the returning cast members - well flash news, they won't save a bad script and suddenly turn it to a good movie. If I want to be positive about an upcoming X-Men film coming out, I'd talk about New Mutants or Deadpool & Cable. Not this impending mess.

Again, personally speaking, I am looking forward to the visuals and new characters and as of now, they haven't released anything.

 

[marvelrobbins]

First sentence is a wonderful example of what I'm talking about. Thank you very much, MR. Glad you see the flip flopping, too.

yes i do see it.

critism isn't even constructive.i spent alot of time in weeks leading up to homecoming release in skeptism thread now that film is out and i hate it i have bailed entirely on spider-man section.just like if i have no intrest in films i stay out of their section.i wish others would follow this example.apart from rumors and trade report on lilandra we don't have much to really gel kinberg's vision.possibly with comic con we get some information.if not before end of year dark phoenix is likely to get a story in empire like dofp and apocalypse did.

after the big changes people were fine with with spider-man homecoming i will not let moaning about changes to dark phoenix.and it should be noted trade said dark phoenix will abide original comic storyline far more than last stand did.

while skeptical due to kinberg many make me look like supporter due to critism consently and also wanting film to fail so eather 1-deadpool becomes new wolverine in x-men films 2-they do reboot 3-x-men become supporting characters to deadpool universe in present day setting

 

[Frankeh]

you'd think some positive feedback would be a little more numerous compared to the negative. I can literally go pages without seeing something about what people do like as opposed to what they don't.

So then GO and post your positive thoughts but don't tell other people what they can or can't do.

And I love how you're trying to act like you're all for ~civil~ discussion when you literally told me to shut up a few pages back.

 

[psylockolussus]

They needed to try a new month, it will be interesting how it goes in the fall/winter slot.

Don't know if competing Directly with Mulan is a good choice though, not expecting that one to go the Alice route.

I cannot wait for Mulan. Anyway, if Transformers, Pirates of the Caribbean, Alien, The Mummy reboot, Power Rangers reboot underperformed this year. It would be the X-Men next year. Movie sequels always underperform especially if the last one wasnt great. It's not just franchise fatigue. Sorry not sorry. But this can't be the sleeper hit of 2018 when its predecessor was both a critical failure and box office underperformer. Not to mention, this film has to be good in order to get the goodwill of the people and maintain legs and I doubt it will be good with Kinberg as the driving force.

Anyway, there's Venom, Aquaman, Black Panther New Mutants, Avengers 3, sequels to fresh movie series like Ant Man, Fantastic Beasts and Deadpool coming out next year... The masses would need something more to get excited about X-Men 7 which is just gonna be another Xavier/Erik/Raven show.

 

[RalphieRandy]

So then GO and post your positive thoughts but don't tell other people what they can or can't do.

And I love how you're trying to act like you're all for ~civil~ discussion when you literally told me to shut up a few pages back.

Why can't I? Dont people say up here that we shouldn't just accept any old thing from the franchise just because they don't like it? For example, the ages. I'm fine with it but others have expressed thatwe'd anything if we do. Plenty of examples. Isn't that telling others what to do?

I did tell you to shut up about the present day. We ain't getting that anytime soon. Sure did. And?

 

[RalphieRandy]

yes i do see it.

critism isn't even constructive.i spent alot of time in weeks leading up to homecoming release in skeptism thread now that film is out and i hate it i have bailed entirely on spider-man section.just like if i have no intrest in films i stay out of their section.i wish others would follow this example.apart from rumors and trade report on lilandra we don't have much to really gel kinberg's vision.possibly with comic con we get some information.if not before end of year dark phoenix is likely to get a story in empire like dofp and apocalypse did.

after the big changes people were fine with with spider-man homecoming i will not let moaning about changes to dark phoenix.and it should be noted trade said dark phoenix will abide original comic storyline far more than last stand did.

while skeptical due to kinberg many make me look like supporter due to critism consently and also wanting film to fail so eather 1-deadpool becomes new wolverine in x-men films 2-they do reboot 3-x-men become supporting characters to deadpool universe in present day setting

Exactly. Some people who shall not be named are literally salivating at the idea that they want this to fail. They've done it for at least the last 2 movies. Others have pointed this out in the past couple of months.There have been comments saying they hope it will fail! But I'm the bad guy, I'm exaggerating!

 

[psylockolussus]

So Olivia Munn is in Montreal. Anyone else spotted yet not announced?

Psylocke seems like a large possibility since Olivia is training heavily right now.

If only!

No one could slice the Shiar spaceship into two without Psylocke Obviously, she's another Emma Frost/Jubilee/Angel scenario. Rebooted only to be wasted in 1 film and never brought back for the sequel. When will the MCU do that to the actual Avengers that isn't Quicksilver. Only Fox with the actual X-Men.

 

[def28]

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[marvelrobbins]

Exactly. Some people who shall not be named are literally salivating at the idea that they want this to fail. There have been comments saying they hope it will fail! But I'm the bad guy, I'm exaggerating!

yep.no your not bad guy though you may want to quit telling others to shut up because it can get you into trouble though i understand your frustation.that is i learned to use ignore list.

I thought starting skeptism section would reduce negativity in other threads in dark phoenix section.plus i am skeptical of kinberg too but it doesn't stop.

 

[psylockolussus]

Right now Mulan isnt heavy competition, theres no buzz on that movie either and its not going to be a musical like Beauty and the Beast or how the Jungle Boo worked it, it wasnt even a smash when it came out so I think Dark Phoenix is just fine, now if it was Lion King,Little Mermaid or Aladdin oh yea I would agree but no for Mulan they are fine no one is really checking for that movie anymore than DP.

You say that now and wait until the trailer breaks the internet.

X-Men 7 versus an live action film adaptation of a beloved Disney animated film? Don't underestimate Mulan and this isn't a sequel to a film that got a rotten rating like Alice or Apocalypse. So most likely, the families would go check Mulan instead of another X-Men film.

 

[RalphieRandy]

yep.no your not bad guy though you may want to quit telling others to shut up because it can get you into trouble though i understand your frustation.that is i learned to use ignore list.

I thought starting skeptism section would reduce negativity in other threads in dark phoenix section.plus i am skeptical of kinberg too but it doesn't stop.

That's why I pointed out that we have threads specifically for their negative criticisms. But it bleeds into every other thread.

I shouldn't have said shut up. It wasn't specifically directed at that font particularly, I was more talking about everyone who constantly brings up present day or original cast. And that was one of the random comments mentioning it that I quoted. ***So to Frank, I apologize for saying shut up.*** Idk why they think things would be so much better if they were present day.

It's like the site is a spin off of cinema sins lol. Which is why they created cinema wins! I have my criticisms too. Too much wolverine, storm's eyes, the final battle in apocalypse, but hot damn! Some comments are strictly negative criticisms.

 

[psyonic]

X-Men always has amazing trailers, X3 comes to mind, then the actual film is a poop fest. Apocalypse too.

 

[psylockolussus]

Apocalypse didn't have a good trailer.

Since when do X-Men comics jump decades every issue without aging their characters accordingly to story?

We wouldn't have a set of younger and older casts in DOFP or an effort to show an aged Logan and Prof X in Logan if aging didn't matter. Of course it stands out to the First Class cast when they don't age a decade every film. That's not being comic accurate, it's just what it is since they feel the need to force so many decades changes. It's poorly mapped out, and since they are trying to catch up to the present they are trapped without having to recast everyone.

The comics don't jump decades every new issue or new volume. They are always in the present unless they time travel.

Obviously, Fox needed to do their own take, by making Xavier young for how many films now? Basically, they are doing films based on X-Men: First Class and Uncanny X-Men: First Class but still unfaithful.

 

[2kt09]

Obviously, Fox needed to do their own take, by making Xavier young for how many films now?

The first one in the trilogy. He looks like a kid.
Even Fassbender went from a suave 007 to a grizzled

Spoiler

 

[Frankeh]

X-Men always has amazing trailers, X3 comes to mind, then the actual film is a poop fest. Apocalypse too.

Apocalypse had VERY bad green screen from the first trailer to the last though

 

[psylockolussus]

They looked like a videogame trailer.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I think the thing with negativity on here at times is that it becomes abit over exaggerated.

In the long run the doom and gloom on this movie comes from very little since we know very little about it apart from it has only started filming a few weeks ago.

Its like i read someone on twitter say FOX have already ****ed up with New Mutants because of the choice of casting and how its gonna fail because of that decision... now that piece of melodramatic was over just New Mutants alone.

I doubt it will be good with Kinberg as the driving force.

If it was the OC in this movie right now you would be giving Kinberg way more credit

Somehow you managed to find something nice to say about zombie phoenix jean in TLS after all.

 

[YoungBlood]

yep.no your not bad guy though you may want to quit telling others to shut up because it can get you into trouble though i understand your frustation.that is i learned to use ignore list.

I thought starting skeptism section would reduce negativity in other threads in dark phoenix section.plus i am skeptical of kinberg too but it doesn't stop.

It did, but certain people (you know who I'm talking about) just like to troll and start arguments just for the sake of it even if they been stated they don't care about the film.

 

[YoungBlood]

Did you not see where I said that didn't mind criticism? Did you miss that part? Again, if the site is called HYPE and the specific thread is for the HYPE of these specific movies, you'd think some positive feedback would be a little more numerous compared to the negative. I can literally go pages without seeing something about what people do like as opposed to what they don't.


Point to me where I said that people have to support everything. I'll wait until you find it. Again, have your damn constructive criticisms, but some of you are NEVER happy with anything this franchise does. So why be on a forum about these specific movies?

And hate to break it to you, Frank, but if I don't like a show or movie I'm not going to go to a website about it to go on and on about how I don't like it. Some of you sound just like those people on youtube who specifically go on a video of a show they don't like saying, "ew. This show is stupid. Always has been. This looks dumb, too!" The fact that many say "it's not like the comics!" constantly seems pretty clear that they like the comics more and I'm sure there are forums specifically for that. If these aren't fan forums then the site needs to change its name. Because being HYPED for these movies is something many of you are not.

 

[psyonic]

Apocalypse teaser wasn't bad

 

[Erik Lensherr]

Apocalypse teaser wasn't bad

SDCC teaser or official teaser?

Come and see...

 

[YoungBlood]

I think the thing with negativity on here at times is that it becomes abit over exaggerated.

In the long run the doom and gloom on this movie comes from very little since we know very little about it apart from it has only started filming a few weeks ago.

Its like i read someone on twitter say FOX have already ****ed up with New Mutants because of the choice of casting and how its gonna fail because of that decision... now that piece of melodramatic was over just New Mutants alone.



If it was the OC in this movie right now you would be giving Kinberg way more credit

Somehow you managed to find something nice to say about zombie phoenix jean in TLS after all.

Mental Gymnastics at its finest.

 

[psylockolussus]

Didn't the admin already tell someone to ignore my posts?