Days of Future Past X-men First Class Sequels?

[merbass]

Yeah, there wasn't much for Emma to do in XFC.

 

[Iceman]

It's possible Emma might have a stronger role in the sequel but I don't know if J.Jones is the actress that can pull that off. She does hot and *****y okay but Emma was a mastermind easily on par with SS, Magneto or Selene. Charlize would have been perfect for the role. However, again they need to figure out a better way to feature psychic powers to give Emma and Charles something more to do.

Charlize would have been perfect as Emma but then she's one of the very best actresses out there. I'm sure JJ can step it up in any case when given more to do.

 

[BestGirl]

Jones brought a coldness and detachment to Emma that was borderline inhuman. I don't know if she did that on purpose or if she's just that horrible of an actress, but whatever it was, it worked for the character.

 

[jaymes_e06]

A slight Reganesque accent would have made JJ's Emma a lot better IMO.

 

[Raiden]

Although I like the cast of FC, I really wish they had done the true First Class of X-Men, which is the original five (Cyclops, Jean/Marvel Girl, Beast, Iceman, and Angel). It would be awesome if Xavier recruits the remaining four (since Beast is already in FC), but it'd hard to juggle such a large cast since Havok and Banshee will be back. Anyway, after the incredible success of The Avengers, I think the stakes have been raised, and I hope they will deliver a truly remarkable sequel because if Fox is going to keep this franchise indefinitely, I want them to take proper care of it instead of the awful job they did with FF and DD properties.

 

[Majik1387]

No offense to the original five, but with how large the X-Universe is, I would be disappointed if that's how they started out the FC series.

 

[Raiden]

No offense to the original five, but with how large the X-Universe is, I would be disappointed if that's how they started out the FC series.

Well, the original five was *the* First Class of X-Men, so I don't understand why you'd be disappointed if they started out like that.

I have a feeling that we might get an original five X-Men movie sometimes in 2050, after Marvel finally pry the movie rights of X-Men away from Fox.

 

[Angamb]

I want to see Scott, Jean and Ororo with Beast, Banshee and Havok, but not yet.

Including them in the third movie would be the right moment, I think, and an amazing way to end the trilogy, in case they dont want to do more.

 

[marvelrobbins]

You migh not see Storm If the people who want First Class to be declared a reboot get their way.Plus If Fox were to listen to them I gurante Wolverine would join up by third film.Now maybe Hugh jackman won't play him again after The Wolverine but declaring first Class as reboot allows them to Include wolverine as major character again.

 

[Angamb]

I doubt Matthew and Singer would include Wolverine. They love the Magneto and Charles relathionship so much, so I doubt they want the spotlight to move to Wolverine..... Again.

 

[blueserenity]

Well, the original five was *the* First Class of X-Men, so I don't understand why you'd be disappointed if they started out like that.

I have a feeling that we might get an original five X-Men movie sometimes in 2050, after Marvel finally pry the movie rights of X-Men away from Fox.

And make vapid, high-action low-character development movies? Yeah, SO looking forward to that.

I will never understand why people pedestalize Marvel as the be-all end-all of script-to-screen comic movies. Fox has done a great job of X-Men (Wolverine and X3 notwithstanding). Giving the rights back to Marvel is not going to magically make everything better. Seriously.

 

[blueserenity]

You migh not see Storm If the people who want First Class to be declared a reboot get their way.Plus If Fox were to listen to them I gurante Wolverine would join up by third film.Now maybe Hugh jackman won't play him again after The Wolverine but declaring first Class as reboot allows them to Include wolverine as major character again.

What is your obsession with having Wolverine in these movies??? He's been in all 5 so far, up for a sixth, and people aren't exactly demanding him for the XMFC sequel so I'm not sure where you're getting this. If they were as concerned with bringing in fan faves as you seem to think they are, Jean and Cyclops would have already been in First Class. Declaring the FC trilogy a reboot does not mean that Wolverine will automatically be in it. And on the contrary to your argument, I'd say as a reboot Storm has a WAAAAAY better chance of showing up in the sequel (because they don't need to worry about what age she'd need to be by 19XX in order to be 30ish by 1999).

Wolverine already has his origin stories over the span of X1-3 and his 2 movies. He's not going to show up in the FC trilogy because there's nothing he could do to add to the plot or to his own characterization.

 

[Angamb]

There should be a rule since now to dont mention Wolverine name again on any First Class board.

like... seriously. He has his own board, hasnt it? anyway...

 

[Iceman]

And make vapid, high-action low-character development movies? Yeah, SO looking forward to that.

I will never understand why people pedestalize Marvel as the be-all end-all of script-to-screen comic movies. Fox has done a great job of X-Men (Wolverine and X3 notwithstanding). Giving the rights back to Marvel is not going to magically make everything better. Seriously.

Withstanding 2 out of 5 is quite a lot dude. And they weren't just minor disappointments; they turned off a massive chunk of the fanbase. With Marvel's first team film they've pleased the vast majority of fans, critics, regular movie goers and set box office records while giving all the characters included a fair chance to shine. Not everyone loves all of Marvel's solo films but there aren't any turkeys that turn people off from the overall vision.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Wolverine Is the most popular X-Man.You really think they wouldn't Include him In First Class sequels If they could.I am not advocating Including him.That Is one reason why
I want this trilogy to remain prequels to X-Men and X2.

I still prefer X2 over the Avengers.Yes I am die hard X-men fan but I would put Avnegers above first Class and X-Men.I will take X-Men,x2,and first Class over the iron Man films,Thor,Captain America,and the Incredible Hulk.

 

[blueserenity]

Withstanding 2 out of 5 is quite a lot dude. And they weren't just minor disappointments; they turned off a massive chunk of the fanbase. With Marvel's first team film they've pleased the vast majority of fans, critics, regular movie goers and set box office records while giving all the characters included a fair chance to shine. Not everyone loves all of Marvel's solo films but there aren't any turkeys that turn people off from the overall vision.

Pleasing is a good word for the Marvel films. But I find them all to be pretty vacant... you don't really leave with anything. They're FUN movies, but that's about it... no real depth to them. No commentary to them. If Marvel got back the rights to X-Men, they'd really be about X-Men, the team, fighting evil and saving the day. Which is great, I suppose, but I've been spoiled by character development Fox has given me. None of Marvel's movies come close to FC in that department, none. Marvel films always come off a little too "safe" and ultimately forgettable to me. There's a reason my name doesn't turn up in the Cap'n boards, or the Thor or Iron Man ones. I simply have nothing to contribute, and nothing to gain from them. I enjoyed the movies and moved on immediately.

And yet X-Men, well I mean here we are almost a year later to the date, still discussing it. We could spend hours tearing apart Erik and Charles and Raven piece by piece and still barely have scratched the surface. If the rights reverted back to Marvel, I think they'd just end up giving ALL the X-Men equal screentime, which means equally shared minimal development. I'd rather they seriously develop a few into these brilliant, complex characters thanks. If I wanted a completely mindless, 2-dimensional characters, fun action hero movie, I'd go watch Avengers again.

Then again part of me hopes the rights go back to Marvel, just so they can do a god-awful job of the movie and the angry fanboys can eat crow...

 

[blueserenity]

Wolverine Is the most popular X-Man.You really think they wouldn't Include him In First Class sequels If they could.I am not advocating Including him.That Is one reason why
I want this trilogy to remain prequels to X-Men and X2.

I still prefer X2 over the Avengers.Yes I am die hard X-men fan but I would put Avnegers above first Class and X-Men.I will take X-Men,x2,and first Class over the iron Man films,Thor,Captain America,and the Incredible Hulk.

They really really wouldn't. Like I said, there is nothing that can be gained from this character, especially with Wolverine II sating the desire to see his Japanese history. If they were worried about popularity, do you really think Angel Salvadore would have been in this film? Or RipTide? Or Darwin? There were a hundred other more popular mutants they could have used.

Not to mention they're aware that Wolverine has been overdone. Wasn't the sequel supposed to come out this summer? And instead they haven't even begun filming. This wasn't exactly high on their priority list. Nor is it getting hyped up, at all. They blamed the tsunami and nuclear reactor for the on-location filming delay but as someone who was there for the earthquake, let me assure you that blaming the Tohoku tsunami for filming delays would be like delaying a shoot in Arizona because DisneyWorld got destroyed in a tidal wave. They were looking for excuses to delay production, and they latched onto this one. No one seems very enthusiastic about the project at all.

Wolverine's time in the movies is done with this film. The cameo was great but it's time to move on. We know it, they know it, Jackman knows it.

Also not to be mean but could you please start spellchecking or rereading your work before you post? It can be a bit of a pain trying to fill in the blanks to realize what you're saying....

 

[Iceman]

Pleasing is a good word for the Marvel films. But I find them all to be pretty vacant... you don't really leave with anything. They're FUN movies, but that's about it... no real depth to them. No commentary to them. If Marvel got back the rights to X-Men, they'd really be about X-Men, the team, fighting evil and saving the day. Which is great, I suppose, but I've been spoiled by character development Fox has given me. None of Marvel's movies come close to FC in that department, none. Marvel films always come off a little too "safe" and ultimately forgettable to me. There's a reason my name doesn't turn up in the Cap'n boards, or the Thor or Iron Man ones. I simply have nothing to contribute, and nothing to gain from them. I enjoyed the movies and moved on immediately.

And yet X-Men, well I mean here we are almost a year later to the date, still discussing it. We could spend hours tearing apart Erik and Charles and Raven piece by piece and still barely have scratched the surface. If the rights reverted back to Marvel, I think they'd just end up giving ALL the X-Men equal screentime, which means equally shared minimal development. I'd rather they seriously develop a few into these brilliant, complex characters thanks. If I wanted a completely mindless, 2-dimensional characters, fun action hero movie, I'd go watch Avengers again.

Then again part of me hopes the rights go back to Marvel, just so they can do a god-awful job of the movie and the angry fanboys can eat crow...

I'm not going to disagree too strongly on the Marvel solo films as you have a point; I just don't agree on the extent. But you seem to be focusing on First Class rather than the other 4 Fox X-films when you're assessing Fox (don't forget they're responsible for the 2 F4 films too). I like X1 & I love X2 but I hardly think they're great character pieces. Major characters (like the leader of the X-Men) get completely neglected while others like Magneto are not at the level of FC. First Class also for its massive cast, it's really all about how great & well cast McAvoy & Fassbender are. Also Marvel have made only one team film so when talking studio wars you can't just put it up against only your favourite Fox effort rather than say F4-2 in your analysis of character depth. t:

I think your criticism of Marvel's characters as mindless 2D creations in Avengers is quite overblown. Avengers is simply the final act delivering the coming together while the character is quite established in the solo films even if they themselves are 'safe'. I'm surprised you didn't at least like the interaction between these characters as I thought that was possibly the strongest part of the film. Prof X & Magneto are arguably two of the deepest characters in the MU so when they're played by such well suited actors it is no surprise that no individual Avenger is going to match. But X-Men is about a lot more than those 2 and you shouldn't allow Fox off the hook just because they've done them so well.

It's fine to comment on your personal forum surfing habits which of course will be unique to you. In my case I joined this place after loving X2 and spent 3 years here everyday anticipating X3 (look at my stupid post count for proof ). I like you don't spend much time on the Marvel solo hero boards but the last couple of years I've been all over the Avengers board as my primary hangout (& my fandom of Avengers is nothing compared to X-Men) and those years have left me satisfied rather than felt like a waste of time in X3's case.

Fox have proven they have got some of their sense back with FC and I don't mind them keeping the rights while they put out this quality. It's just a shame they didn't keep their heads throughout or we would have something crazy that would by now be just as successful financially and have as bright a future as Avengers. Imagine how good it would have been to have 5 good X-films that naturally fit together. X3 & Wolverine have left things in a muddle as noone really knows what characters & stories can validly be introduced into this part continuity for sequels in the FC world & I don't know how the general audience is going to be able to follow it in a few film's time.

 

[X-Maniac]

Well, the original five was *the* First Class of X-Men, so I don't understand why you'd be disappointed if they started out like that.

Well, to be fair, the Avengers film doesn't follow the first line-up of the Avengers in the comics. Captain America, Hawkeye and Black Widow were not founding members in the comics.

I have a feeling that we might get an original five X-Men movie sometimes in 2050, after Marvel finally pry the movie rights of X-Men away from Fox.

I don't think they will be able to 'pry' the rights away if the contract is as tight as it is said to be. But you are probably right that Marvel would follow the comics more closely and start with the 'original five'

 

[X-Maniac]

What is your obsession with having Wolverine in these movies??? He's been in all 5 so far, up for a sixth, and people aren't exactly demanding him for the XMFC sequel so I'm not sure where you're getting this. If they were as concerned with bringing in fan faves as you seem to think they are, Jean and Cyclops would have already been in First Class. Declaring the FC trilogy a reboot does not mean that Wolverine will automatically be in it. And on the contrary to your argument, I'd say as a reboot Storm has a WAAAAAY better chance of showing up in the sequel (because they don't need to worry about what age she'd need to be by 19XX in order to be 30ish by 1999).

Wolverine already has his origin stories over the span of X1-3 and his 2 movies. He's not going to show up in the FC trilogy because there's nothing he could do to add to the plot or to his own characterization.

I agree that Wolverine shouldn't be in the sequel.

(Rather worryingly, though, there is a new comic series First X-Men in which Wolverine, Magneto, Sabretooth and two others are the first team)

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

well if they move into the cicil rights era in the sequel then I would like to see Storm, me being a African- American male, I would love to see how they tackle this. Ororo being, "fair" skin, white hair, blue eyes, would be a good side story for her, imo...

 

[def28]

Well, to be fair, the Avengers film doesn't follow the first line-up of the Avengers in the comics. Captain America, Hawkeye and Black Widow were not founding members in the comics.'

It not a disappointing lineup though which I think is what was being argued. And By like how many issues though? 30? They had three of them. Fan favs/essentials were chosen and mixed with The Ultimates. If were counting The Ultimates which is where Avengers takes alot of its cues and should count, then all of those characters show up within first 7 issues. The original X team would not have been a disappointing line up. Fans and the general audience love those characters. Even if FC was Jean, CYC, Beast, Nightcrawler, Storm and Colossos. You wouldnt have as many people complaining. The FC line up is a bit weak regardless.

 

[Brawl]

I have no interest at all in X4 as they've screwed up that continuity so badly.

Scott is dead, Rogue & Mystique depowered,I dont ever want to see Halle play Storm again,etc. At this point Id prefer if they just continued making X-Men films with this new cast and completely ignored the established trilogy.

For a sequel Id like to see Scott and Jean join the team and some version of the Proteus story, which is exactly where I think theyll go next.

I'd also like to see Thunderbird, Sunfire,Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver make a appearance in a X-Men film.

Agree totally. XFC should be considered an alternate timeline like the newest Star Trek movie. Thunderbird would be a great addition! I also would like to see Colossus and Kitty in the movie for relationship purposes (got to give the female audience something to chew on). Storm also should be in the movie to give another strong female character. This time no halley. Nona Gaye would make an excellent Storm

 

[X-Maniac]

Agree totally. XFC should be considered an alternate timeline like the newest Star Trek movie. Thunderbird would be a great addition! I also would like to see Colossus and Kitty in the movie for relationship purposes (got to give the female audience something to chew on). Storm also should be in the movie to give another strong female character. This time no halley. Nona Gaye would make an excellent Storm

Nona Gaye is 38 years old. A bit advanced in years for the young Storm, I think.

 

[X-Maniac]

It not a disappointing lineup though which I think is what was being argued. And By like how many issues though? 30? They had three of them. Fan favs/essentials were chosen and mixed with The Ultimates. If were counting The Ultimates which is where Avengers takes alot of its cues and should count, then all of those characters show up within first 7 issues. The original X team would not have been a disappointing line up. Fans and the general audience love those characters. Even if FC was Jean, CYC, Beast, Nightcrawler, Storm and Colossos. You wouldnt have as many people complaining. The FC line up is a bit weak regardless.

Is Beast, Mystique, Banshee and Havok that much of a disappointment though?

Mystique 'defected' to the Brotherhood, of course, and the others had only just joined Xavier's school and thus were not yet fully explored characters (and didn't have their own solo movies like most of the Avengers).