2007 NFL Thread

[The Game]

the pats will be undefeated until the big upset against pittsburgh

I don't see it, I have always said the Burgh' match looks tough on paper but on the field, im not sure they are a lock to beat the Pats, even though the majority thinks so

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

I Have Pats Losing to Pitt in the upcoming game as well

 

[Mee]

Yeah, the Steelers that have lost to Denver, Arizona, and the Jets, are going to beat the Pats.

They'd have to get really lucky.

 

[Jerry!]

I think the Steelers have the right combination of being a good enough team being able to maybe catch the Patriots if they play a bad enough game. But I don't see it happening.

 

[Memphis Slim]

Dallas is not a sub 500 team, granted they arent the colts, but they are still a good team.....

True....but were beat by 21??? Still an NFC team.

Colts by 4

 

[Memphis Slim]

and also the NFL schedule is written months before the season starts......lots of things happen with teams prior to training camp starting....who knew that Byron Leftwich would get released, or that Larry Johnson would suck hard, or that Harrison would get hurt......you can harp on about schedule all you want but as far as this season is concerned, yes the Colts are still defending champs.....but if the Pats run the table and go to the show......things will be different..........do you expect Belichick to go to the NFL league office and demand their schedule be changed from week to week/??...your complaining about something that the teams have no control over. the Pats are in a weak division.....lots of people expected for the Jets and the dolphins to be a lot better than they are

It's like a poker hand. You get dealt a strong hand and sometimes a weak one. You play the one you have. But you can't deny that it's weak.

That's all I've been hearing....that they don't have a weak hand this year. They do.

 

[BlackLantern]

It's like a poker hand. You get dealt a strong hand and sometimes a weak one. You play the one you have. But you can't deny that it's weak.

That's all I've been hearing....that the don't have a weak hand this year. They do.

Ive never said the hand wasnt weak, but it doesnt matter...the Pats dont get a half win for beating on Buffalo...and a whole win for beating the Colts....a W is a W...this isnt college....I understand you won't see it differently untill the Pats smash the Colts by doube digits, maybe it happens maybe it doesnt...

 

[Memphis Slim]

Ive never said the hand wasnt weak, but it doesnt matter...the Pats dont get a half win for beating on Buffalo...and a whole win for beating the Colts....a W is a W...this isnt college....I understand you won't see it differently untill the Pats smash the Colts by doube digits, maybe it happens maybe it doesnt...

Since you live in Connecticut, I'll let you slide.

 

[BlackLantern]

you could apply the schedule argument to justify any teams record.....the Dolphins fans could say the reason for their record is because all the teams they have played are that much better.......I'm surprised that the Giants are 7-3 right now....I can hope they finish the season above .500

 

[omid17]

I Have Pats Losing to Pitt in the upcoming game as well

not going to happent:

 

[Memphis Slim]

you could apply the schedule argument to justify any teams record.....the Dolphins fans could say the reason for their record is because all the teams they have played are that much better.......I'm surprised that the Giants are 7-3 right now....I can hope they finish the season above .500

All you have to do is look at the records. All of the AFC Esat is horrible except the Pats.

 

[El ASESINO]

The only team that will beat the Pats are the Cowboys in the Super Bowl.





I Hope

GO COWBOYS!

 

[omid17]

The only team that will beat the Pats are the Cowboys in the Super Bowl.





I Hope

GO COWBOYS!

no team cant:

 

[Spider-Fan]

The Steelers will not beat the Pats. You know why? Because they are the popular pick to do so. Bill will make sure to crush them in every way possible.

The team (if any) that beats the Patriots I think is more likely to be one of those teams no one thinks can even compete with them (like Miami), but ends up catching them off guard.

Am I saying Miami will beat NE? No, but I am saying I see a lesser team being more likely to take them down than someone like the Steelers.

 

[Dark Donnie]

Priest Holmes is retiring

 

[Silver Knight]

^^About time.

 

[Memphis Slim]

Priest Holmes is retiring

Are you serious?

That Colt D did smack him around pretty bad on Sunday.

 

[Silver Knight]

He should have retired 2 years ago.

 

[Jerry!]

Priest Holmes...HE GONE!!! YES! He'll grab some bench!

 

[Memphis Slim]

This "Girls Gone Wild"...Jerry Springer society has lost it's mind....

Can't take your kids anywhere these days.


NFL, Giants Stadium in Hot Water for Breast-Baring Ritual Among Fans

Tuesday, November 20, 2007
By Catherine Donaldson-Evans

Giants Stadium management, the National Football League and the New York Jets are in the hot seat over a practice that has become a halftime ritual at Jets games: lewd, drunken male fans shouting at women to expose their breasts.
The men whoop, whistle, chant and stomp for female fans to lift up their shirts and bras, often shouting obscenities in the process. Some women comply with the jeering requests.
When the male spectators don't get their wish, they frequently grow nasty — booing, spitting and throwing beer bottles at the women they're targeting.
The story, which was first reported Tuesday by The New York Times, has caused a public outcry and led the New York Jets to issue a statement about the behavior.
"This type of conduct on one of the stadium spirals is outrageous and unacceptable," said Jets senior vice president of business operations Matt Higgins. "We have spoken with NJSEA [New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority] officials and demanded that they take steps immediately to ensure that it does not happen again."
The NJSEA, which runs operations at Giants Stadium and The Meadowlands complex where it's located, acknowledged that the bawdy ritual has been a problem and said security staff and New Jersey State Police are doing what they can to stop it.
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"This is not something new to us in terms of dealing with rowdy fan behavior," NJSEA President and CEO George Zoffinger told FOXNews.com. "Anybody who uses vulgar language or is intoxicated or acting in an improper manner is either ejected or arrested."
Zoffinger said that for the 2007 football season, eight women were tossed out of Giants Stadium for indecent exposure, seven of them from Jets games and one from a Giants game. So far, he said, a total of 148 people have been thrown out of Jets games and 35 have been arrested for bad behavior, compared to 174 ejections and 44 arrests at Giants games.
But punishing the males for their derogatory cat-calling isn't easy, he contended, partly because of the large number of raucous fans at games and partly because cheering doesn't necessarily warrant disciplinary action if it isn't accompanied by indecent language, object-throwing or other behavior that is against the law.
"In a crowd of people chanting, it is extremely difficult to single out a person you would eject or arrest," said Zoffinger. "We crack down as much as we can. If a crowd of 100 is chanting, 'Take off your top!', we try to convince them it's not a good idea. We often get ridiculed for trying to do that. But as abhorrent as it is, I'm not sure it's a crime. ... We can only do so much."
One thing they can do, he said, is nab the women who bare their breasts and the men who pressure them by using obscenities.
"We arrest the women because that's a crime," Zoffinger said. "If [the men] say, 'Show me your f— t—, we can arrest them. If there is bad, vulgar language involved, yes, we do eject them, every single time. ... Boorish behavior will not be tolerated."
The breast-baring problem isn't at the top of the list of security concerns at The Meadowlands, which handles 2 million visitors a year — the most of any sports arenas in the United States, according to Zoffinger.
"We run one of the safest stadiums in the country," he said. "As abhorrent as this behavior is, it does not pose a safety and security issue. I don't think the security staff looks the other way. If we see anybody, we immediately take them into custody."
Zoffinger said he's looking into beefing up security at the stadium during Jets games in an effort to control the incidents.
The NFL didn't return calls from FOXNews.com seeking comment. New Jersey State Police, who patrol the Giants Stadium games with the Meadowlands staff, didn't directly address the Jets games ritual, but said troopers deal with legal infractions when they occur.
"We enforce the laws, and that's our responsibility," state police spokeswoman Jeanne Hengemuhle told FOXNews.com. "If we see the law being broken, we act accordingly."
Amateur videos of men haranguing women in the Gate D section of the stadium during Jets games and women responding by exposing their breasts initially appeared on YouTube, but by Tuesday afternoon they'd been removed from the site.
Feminist writer Naomi Wolf lambasted the "Girls Gone Wild" types of stadium shenanigans as "barbaric" and "reprehensible," and said the practice could lead to sexual violence.
"This is the sign of the degradation of public morality in America," the "Beauty Myth" author fumed during a FOX News Channel panel discussion. "I don’t want my daughter to be exposed to this."
The practice is apparently mostly limited to Jets home games at Giants Stadium. Insiders say they aren't aware of it happening at Giants games.
"The NJSEA has assured us that they will address this conduct at all Meadowlands events," said the Jets' Higgins. "We will not allow a small minority of people to ruin the experience for our fans and will be monitoring the situation."
The NFL is no stranger to the problem of public breast-baring, thanks to the very famous and very costly halftime show "wardrobe malfunction" number by Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake during the 2004 Super Bowl on CBS.
"Football is about one thing — it’s about testosterone," Steve Mason of 710 ESPN Radio told FOX News. "This isn't especially shocking. I don’t think you want to bring the kids to Gate D any time soon."

 

[Jerry!]

Boo hoo.

 

[Cmill216]

Man, that's so sad.........

Why can't that happen in Raymond James?!

 

[rdh007]

This "Girls Gone Wild"...Jerry Springer society has lost it's mind....

Can't take your kids anywhere these days.


NFL, Giants Stadium in Hot Water for Breast-Baring Ritual Among Fans

Tuesday, November 20, 2007
By Catherine Donaldson-Evans

Giants Stadium management, the National Football League and the New York Jets are in the hot seat over a practice that has become a halftime ritual at Jets games: lewd, drunken male fans shouting at women to expose their breasts.

I'd never take a kid under 15 to an NFL game anyway. I've been to two of them, and they were both like going to a dive bar on the wrong side of the tracks. The NFL is infintely better on tv.

As for baring breasts, I suppose there are worse things one could see at an NFL game:

 

[Jerry!]

 

[FaT_tONle]

The only team that will beat the Pats are the Cowboys in the Super Bowl.





I Hope

GO COWBOYS!

Here are some ways I could see the Pats getting beat that I have envisioned in my head... from least to most likely to happen

5) Jets play a competitive game till late in the third... down 30-13ish... Jets add a field goal late to cut it to 14 early in the fourth. Some riduculous things happen... the Jets get a few breaks... and the Pats turn it over trying to run up the score. Jets force OT on a couple of miracle touchdown throws from Clemens... Nugent nails a 54 yarder to land the upset of the millenium. Mangini and Belicheck get into a brawl at midfield at the end of the game... the Pats go out in the first or second round.

4) I think the Steelers have an outside chance... they could keep it within a score late in the third... if they make some plays down the stretch... it could be a 27-24 ish game for the Black and Gold.

3) San Diego... thats right... the stinking Chargers... they slip into the playoffs at 8-8... they finally decide to turn on the "time to play" switch... after getting by the Jags 31-17 suprisingly with ease, they come into Foxboro with nothing to lose... they hand the Pats a 34-31 defeat.

2) N.E quickly jumps out to a 10-0 lead over Dallas in the Superbowl. In a stunning turn of events... N.E is completely dominated by the Cowboys for the rest of that half as it is 31-10 Dallas... Romo has 4 TD tosses in the first half and the Pats offense looks lost... but Brady and the offense find their groove in the second half making it 31-24 late in the third. THe Pats take the lead 38-34 with under two minutes in the fourth... Randall Gay gets flagged for interference inside the fifteen... 00:7 seconds left... no timeouts... fourth and goal at the 8... Romo scrambles for it... gets hit... laterals it back to Crayton who takes it to the pylon. 40-38 the final.

1) AFC Championship: Colts 35 Pats 34

So obviously you guys can see there is about a 95 % chance the Pats go 19-0.