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Yeah; you can make that final career evaluation 22 games into it :rolleyes:

For many running backs, its pretty easy to do so. Enspecially a running back who was so "highly" thought of coming out of "tail back U". He isnt EVER going to be a top 10 running back in the NFL, and you can quote me on that for the remainder of history.

I neve runderstood the Barry Sanders talk; Bush was always going to be a better version of Marshall Faulk.

You might want to brush up on Faulk's career before you make claims that Bush WILL be better than him. The Sanders talk comes from the fact that they are both dancers. The only difference is that Sanders had the will to never give up, and never go down. I have never seen that from Bush.
 
Is ay the only 2 teams and as i suspected that could beat New England would be Pittsburgh or Indy.
Jacksonville may give that offense the best threat cause There QB has 0 picks i think.

No one from the NFC.

I say this super bowl will be.

New England v/s Green Bay.
 
I neve runderstood the Barry Sanders talk; Bush was always going to be a better version of Marshall Faulk.
So Reggie Bush is going to be the best all-around back in league history and will have a bust in Canton? :huh:
 
I think Excel is saddened by the fact that its Bob Sanders who received the ancient powers of the Norse gods rather than Reggie Bush.
 
Have we determined that Reggie Bush hasn't been recently replaced with a genetic clone of Bob Sanders?
 
I recall having this same convo about a year ago about Ronnie Brown...hows he doing now?

Bush will be one of the best all around backs in the league. Hes in 2nd year. It might not become obvious till his 6th year. Yall saying what he "never" will become is ridiculous so early.

Statistically; Tom Bradys first 2 seasons were below average; were you guys dismissing him with **** like "hell never be an elite nfl qb" ???

Yall gotta look for potential and go with it and Bush has it and that cant be denied.

Even if I am wrong;' its too soon to say anything final.
 
Yall saying what he "never" will become is ridiculous so early.

And for the 1,000th time, where's the quote where I said he wouldn't be a good running back? My beef with you is you're outlandinsh claims that he's going to be "better than Marshall Faulk". That's ridiculous.
 
I recall having this same convo about a year ago about Ronnie Brown...hows he doing now?

Bush will be one of the best all around backs in the league. Hes in 2nd year. It might not become obvious till his 6th year. Yall saying what he "never" will become is ridiculous so early.

Statistically; Tom Bradys first 2 seasons were below average; were you guys dismissing him with **** like "hell never be an elite nfl qb" ???

Yall gotta look for potential and go with it and Bush has it and that cant be denied.

Even if I am wrong;' its too soon to say anything final.

Tom Brady held the clipboard for awhile, and his first season in, he won a super bowl. Thats just downright a horrible comparison.

Also, its easy to say that you gotta look for his potential, but its just as easy to say that he has hit his peak. He wont be a 1000yd rushing, 1000yd receiving back like Faulk. He will be a 800yd receiving, 500yd rushing back.
 
Um is it me or are we forgetting about the genetic freak who smoked the bears and broke a rookie rushing record in Adrian Peterson. Cause he looks ten times better then Bush.
 
No, we talked about him last page. Excel fails to see that he is a better back than Bush.
 
Btw for forgotten players... Nobody ever mentions Cunningham. He was more amazing than Vick in a better era :cool:

 
This still cracks me up btw



After the play he gives him business down there :)
 
More late night football jargon

Top nfl busts

I personally would put JJ Stokes near the top but here is a list I found.

Arizona - Andre Wadsworth (Rd. 1, Pk. 3, 1998)
They could make a board game out of the Cardinals hilariously awful picks. Wadsworth played one year, had four surgeries and was out of football by 2000.

Atlanta - Aundrey Bruce (Rd. 1, Pk. 1, 1988)
I wanted to put Vick here (since he was traded for LT and Drew Brees) but instead I'll go with Bruce. Tim Brown went five picks later.

Baltimore - Kyle Boller (Rd. 1, Pk. 19, 2003)
The Ravens have been magnificent in the first round in their short time. But like so many of his passes, Boller was a dud.

Buffalo - Mike Williams (Rd. 1, Pk. 4, 2002)
Plenty of horrid early rounders in the 90s, but none were chosen this high or with so much hype.

Carolina - Rae Carruth (Rd. 1, Pk. 27, 1997)
If football were attempting to murder your pregnant wife, Carruth would have been a stud.

Chicago - Curtis Enis (Rd. 1, Pk. 5, 1998)
Enis gets the nod over Rashaan Salaam because Salaam didn't go until Pk. 21.

Cincinnati - 95 percent of their picks from 1991-2002.
As Chris Mortensen famously said in 2002, "They're the Bengals!"

Cleveland - Every No. 1 pick from 1990-2005.
>From "Touchdown Tommy" Vardell (Pk. 9 in '92) to Tim Couch (Pk. 1 in '99) these guys have been the height of absurdity.

Dallas - David LaFleur (Rd. 1, Pk. 22, 1997)
Just mention the name of the LSU tight end (career catches: 85) to a Cowboys fan and watch the blood rush to their face.

Denver - Tommy Maddox (Rd. 1, Pk. 25, 1992)
Broncos could have had wideouts Carl Pickens or Jimmy Smith, but instead took Elway's supposed heir out of spite.

Detroit - All top picks, 1996-2005
Ready? In order: Reggie Brown, Bryant Westbrook, Terry Fair, Chris Claiborne, Stockar McDougal, Jeff Backus, Joey Harrington, Charles Rogers, Roy Williams and Mike Williams.

Green Bay - Tony Mandrich (Rd. 1, Pk. 2 1989)
The Incredible Bulk was the Darko Milicic of his time. Troy Aikman went No. 1, then Mandrich, Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas and Deion Sanders.

Houston - Tony Boselli (Expansion draft, Pk. 1, 2002)
The Curse of the Boselli. The Texans first-ever pick never played a down for them, and David Carr has gone on to get sacked 208 times in four years.

Indianapolis - Steve Emtman (Rd. 1, Pk. 1, 1990) and Quentin Coryatt (Rd. 1, Pk. 2, 1990)
The Gold Standard of Busts, the Colts had the No. 1 and No. 2 overall picks in 1990 and managed to blow both. Emtman blew out both knees and played 10 games in six years, and Coryatt tallied eight sacks in eight years.

Jacksonville - Reggie Williams (Rd. 1, Pk. 9, 2004)
Not much to chose from, and the jury is still out on Williams. He has a lot of work to do.

Kansas City - Sylvester Morris (Rd. 1, Pk. 21, 2000)
The Cat suited up for all of 15 games in his five-year career.

Miami - Yatil Green (Rd. 1, Pk. 15, 1997)
At a time when one weapon or one impact defender could have put them over the top, the Fins grabbed a guy who managed nine games and 18 receptions for his career.

Minnesota - Dimitrius Underwood (Rd. 1, Pk. 29, 1999)
As Homer Simpson would say, "Psst, he's crazy." Underwood went schizoid and never played a down in the NFL.

New England - Hart Lee Dykes (Rd. 1, Pk. 15, 1989)
Very symbolic of the 90s Pats: Dykes' career was cut short by injuries suffered from a barroom ass beating.

New Orleans - Ricky Williams (Rd. 1, Pk. 5, 1999)
If football were ripping tubes and having illegitimate children, Ricky would be a force. The Saints traded their entire draft for three above-average years.

New York Giants - Ron Dayne (Rd. 1, Pk. 11, 2000)
The worst Heisman Trophy Winner Ever has 17 touchdowns in five seasons, and never averaged more than 3.8 yards per carry for the Giants.

New York Jets - Blair Thomas (Rd. 1, Pk. 2, 1990)
Nine total touchdowns in his six-year career. He set the Bust Bar high for Curtis Enis and Ki-Jana Carter.

Oakland - Todd Marinovich (Rd. 1, Pk. 24, 1991)
If football involved growing weed, smoking heroin and dodging probation officers, Marinovich would've been one of the Greats.

Philadelphia - Lester Holmes (Rd. 1, Pk. 19, 1993)
Holmes coupled with Leonard Renfro (Rd. 1, Pk. 24) to give the Eagles two busts in '93.

Pittsburgh - Tim Worley (Rd. 1, Pk. 7, 1989)
After a 770-yard rookie year, he never ran for more than 440 yards again.

San Diego - Ryan Leaf (Rd. 1, Pk. 2, 1998)
Leaf was a man amongst boys in college. He acted like a child once he hit the NFL.

San Francisco - J.J. Stokes (Rd. 1, Pk. 10, 1995)
Remember the Next Jerry Rice? Dishonorable mention goes to Giovanni Carmazzi, the Hofstra QB that went three rounds before Marc Bulger and Tom Brady in 2000.

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Seattle - Brian Bosworth (Supplemental draft, 1987)
He cost the Seahawks a No. 1, and signed what was then one of the most obscene contracts in NFL history (the 10/$11 deal I mentioned in the opening). QBs Rick Mirer and Dan McGwire - No. 1 picks just two years apart - were Dishonorable mentions.

St. Louis - Lawrence Phillips (Rd. 1, Pk. 6, 1996)
If football were wife beating, Phillips would've been a steal.

Tampa Bay - Vinny Testeverde (Rd. 1, Pk. 1, 1987)
I'm not blaming Vinny, but he was the symbol for two decades of futility. He has the most losses in NFL history, and was the cherry on top of that fateful 1987 draft.

Tennessee - Alonzo Highsmith (Rd. 1, Pk. 3, 1987)
Here's how good Highsmith was: The Oilers used their No. 1 in 1988 on another running back, Lorenzo White.

Washington - Heath Shuler (Rd. 1, Pk. 3, 1994); Michael Westbrook (Rd. 1, Pk. 4, 1995)
Westbrook almost was left off the list because of that great ass kicking he gave Stephen Davis. But Davis turned out to be good and Westbrook didn't. Shuler? He was just a wuss.
 
The Colts DBs practice against Moss, Welker, Stallworth, and Watson everyday. Over here we call them Harrison, Wayne, Gonzalez and Clark (who is much more dangerous than Watson). They will be more than ready for New England.

:yay:
 
And for the 1,000th time, where's the quote where I said he wouldn't be a good running back? My beef with you is you're outlandinsh claims that he's going to be "better than Marshall Faulk". That's ridiculous.

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fran, cmill and norman...

Reggie Bush
19 Rush, 97 yards
6 Rec, 44 yards
25 touches, 141 total yards


Keeps going up and up; Stecker got hurt tonight so the work load will only increase and they face Atlanta Falcons next week...


Brian Westbrook on a bad day

"A few moments earlier, cornerback Ellis Hobbs and linebacker Rosevelt Colvin ran off the field munching on a bag of popcorn to mock Cowboys wide receiver Terrell Owens, who had left a sign hanging in his locker Wednesday that said "Getcha Popcorn Ready!"

^Heh; I like it :D :D :up: :up:



Yeah; you can make that final career evaluation 22 games into it :rolleyes:

I neve runderstood the Barry Sanders talk; Bush was always going to be a better version of Marshall Faulk.

I think your diminishing Marshall Faulk....arguably the most versitale back to ever play the game....no back has ever had the full package like Faulk...Running, Receiving, Blocking...no one....I won't even bother getting into Barry Sanders with you.
 
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