2007 NFL Thread

[NewYorkSpider]

I don't care for the Patriots or Bill Bellichick, but if teams are sick and tired of the Patriots running up the score, my advice would be to stop them.

 

[BlackLantern]

1. I made the observation after one game - hardly a "weekly rant".
2. I have no problem with the Patriots scoring tons of points and running up the score, just don't run use the final seconds to run useless plays instead of running the clock out and protecting your team.
3. You're an idiot

Its your opinion that they are useless plays....and no one called you names so I'd appreciate if you did the same....

 

[StorminNorman]

"Colvin shouldn't have run that in for a TD, thats being disrespectful and wasn't classy. Running up the score again." I think that would be pretty much how it would go. Hey, they gotta find some reason to ***** about the Patriots.

If you don't understand the difference between adding another score in a blowout with less than a minute left in a game and continuing to play even when the score is up, you are sorely lacking in intelligence.

Of course given your record you could even understand the difference and still be a tool :heart:

 

[StorminNorman]

Its your opinion that they are useless plays....and no one called you names so I'd appreciate if you did the same....

Adding another TD when you can run out the clock is stupid, dangerous and irresponsible.

Adding TD's in a game you are dominating is not.

Also, you started by mocking me - you reap the seeds from which you sow.

 

[Kelly]

1. I made the observation after one game - hardly a "weekly rant".
2. I have no problem with the Patriots scoring tons of points and running up the score, just don't run use the final seconds to run useless plays instead of running the clock out and protecting your team.
3. You're an idiot

Chill with the namecalling......

 

[Jerry!]

Why can't we all just get along and revel in this dominance?

 

[BlackLantern]

If you don't understand the difference between adding another score in a blowout with less than a minute left in a game and continuing to play even when the score is up, you are sorely lacking in intelligence.

Of course given your record you could even understand the difference and still be a tool :heart:

considering there are 4 quarters at 15:00 apiece....as professional athletes and I would expect 110 percent for all 4 quarters, regardless of the score....

 

[Kelly]

Adding another TD when you can run out the clock is stupid, dangerous and irresponsible.

Adding TD's in a game you are dominating is not.

Also, you started by mocking me - you reap the seeds from which you sow.

You are about to sow your seeds....

You went on for a solid 2 hours the other night......repeating yourself....you made your point. Several times.... move on.

 

[StorminNorman]

considering there are 4 quarters at 15:00 apiece....as professional athletes and I would expect 110 percent for all 4 quarters, regardless of the score....

Yes, from the players. I never criticized the players.

The problem is with the coaches. It is there responsibility to protect their players (though Belichick's history is that he cares less about his players health and more about winning), which means not risking their careers on plays that have no impact on the games outcome.

 

[Jerry!]

Its not high school football anymore.

 

[StorminNorman]

You are about to sow your seeds....

You went on for a solid 2 hours the other night......repeating yourself....you made your point. Several times.... move on.

I went on for 30 minutes, most of which was responding to the posts of others. Nothing wrong with that. Also I never repeated myself with the same points - I always addressed the exact issues the various posters brought up.

Of course though, you should be addressing BlackLantern and Patent Pending considering it was they that brought up the issue. If they would like to continue the debate - they by all means lets discuss.

If they don't, then there is no reason to bring it up.

 

[Memphis Slim]

If Jake Delhomme didn't get injured this season...it would have been a closer game. Maybe even a upset. But the Colts were the better team today.

I think Carolina can go 9-7 and win the South. Just a tiny prediction.

LOL!! And if my Aunt had testicles she'd be my uncle. t:

 

[BlackLantern]

Yes, from the players. I never criticized the players.

The problem is with the coaches. It is there responsibility to protect their players (though Belichick's history is that he cares less about his players health and more about winning), which means not risking their careers on plays that have no impact on the games outcome.

I guess we will agree to disagree then, I see it as it is your job to win and score points at every opportunity, regardless of the score, regardless of the sport....at the professional level. I highly doubt there is anything in the NFL rulebook stating you must take a knee once you have a significant lead.

 

[StorminNorman]

Its not high school football anymore.

Exactly, it is now more important. Instead of high school reputations on the line - it is the careers of men. Men with families. If a Patriot or Cowboy had received a career ending injury during a play Belichick called because his ego needed to be stroked, then I hope he would have the courtesy to take care of him and his family.

Of course I know he wouldn't - because Belichick isn't a good guy.

 

[BlackLantern]

this is all AFC business anyway....except for week 16 when the Giants play the Pats...I am actually going to that game...

 

[StorminNorman]

I guess we will agree to disagree then, I see it as it is your job to win and score points at every opportunity, regardless of the score, regardless of the sport....at the professional level. I highly doubt there is anything in the NFL rulebook stating you must take a knee once you have a significant lead.

It is your duty to win games. It is a Players Duty to play at his fullest. It is a Coaches duty to win games. It is a Coaches Responsibility to protect their players. That is what Belicheck failed to do.

There is nothing in the rulebook about taking a knee, however thats besides the point. I never criticized Belicheck for breaking rules with his call (though of course, he is a cheater), I simply accused him of being an ass.

 

[Kelly]

I went on for 30 minutes, most of which was responding to the posts of others. Nothing wrong with that. Also I never repeated myself with the same points - I always addressed the exact issues the various posters brought up.

Of course though, you should be addressing BlackLantern and Patent Pending considering it was they that brought up the issue. If they would like to continue the debate - they by all means lets discuss.

If they don't, then there is no reason to bring it up.

My only issue at this moment, is the namecalling.....if it stops, you guys can debate the issue till we all fall asleep....but it will be civil...

 

[Kargo Warrior]

45:0...total destruction..

 

[BlackLantern]

It is your duty to win games. It is a Players Duty to play at his fullest. It is a Coaches duty to win games. It is a Coaches Responsibility to protect their players. That is what Belicheck failed to do.

There is nothing in the rulebook about taking a knee, however thats besides the point. I never criticized Belicheck for breaking rules with his call (though of course, he is a cheater), I simply accused him of being an ass.

I do think the reason for the offensive explosion of the Pats is that belichick wants to prove something...maybe that he doesn't need to cheat or that he isnt the horrid person everyone thinks he is for cheating.....the NFL fined him and as far as Roger Goodell (aka the hammer, as i like to call him) considers the situation resolved....and thats good enough for me...

 

[Memphis Slim]

EVIL

vs.

GOOD

 

[StorminNorman]

I do think the reason for the offensive explosion of the Pats is that belichick wants to prove something...maybe that he doesn't need to cheat or that he isnt the horrid person everyone thinks he is for cheating.....the NFL fined him and as far as Roger Goodell (aka the hammer, as i like to call him) considers the situation resolved....and thats good enough for me...

The blowout was done. He was winning by several scores. The extra TD did nothing to make the win look more impressive.

I don't think of him as a horrid person just for cheating - he has a history of being an ass. From being reckless with recovering concussion-laden players, from court documents referring to his cheating on his wife, to his actions in game where he has shown less the good sportsmanship when dealing with other coaches and players.

The cheating bit was simply making a black pot blacker.

 

[Matt]

Time for Celldog's newest rant of the week.

"The Colts beat a team whose all-star quarterback is injured so they must be the best team in the NFL but the Patriots who beat the best team in the NFC have a soft schedule!"

 

[BlackLantern]

I still don't get the whole "schedule" deabate.....this isnt college....a W is a W....regardless of the quality of team you face...

 

[Kelly]

I do think the reason for the offensive explosion of the Pats is that belichick wants to prove something...maybe that he doesn't need to cheat or that he isnt the horrid person everyone thinks he is for cheating.....the NFL fined him and as far as Roger Goodell (aka the hammer, as i like to call him) considers the situation resolved....and thats good enough for me...

I will never call that situation resolved, fine or no fine......that was not cool in any situation, and if you want to call him classless for that...........then people can do that till the cows come home as far as I'm concerned. But allowing his football team to play the football they know how to play, whether its 10 pts. 38 pts, 60 pts., doesn't matter to me....that is football and if the other team can't handle it, then they better do something with their coaches and players.....coming down on Belichick is silly......

Cheating = Classless
Making touchdowns = Football...

 

[StorminNorman]

The Colts have had a tougher schedule, but the Colts also haven't been nearly as dominant as the Patriots.

I think the Patriots are the better team - I think the Colts will win the game.