The Dark Knight 4 "Dark Knight" Scenes to be Shot in IMAX!

[itsthebatman]

"Swordfish"...that was the one I was trying to remember! Yeah...it kicks off with that robbery and a big "wow!" moment, then flips back and tells the story leading up to it, then picks back up at the bank for the climax of the movie.

I've been sitting here for about an hour, thinking through all the movies I've seen on TV in the past several months. I even kept thinking of Hugh Jackman, but couldn't make that connection..."Swordfish" was totally escaping me.

I can sleep tonight. Thank you.

But that would be a neat structure for this movie: give us our Joker right off the bat, so we're not sitting there all anxious and fidgety for 40 minutes waiting for it. Then go back and fill in the blanks, show him getting crazier and meaner as things progress, etc. then "catch up" with the itself and pick back up at the bank again.

That would be something unique in these "superhero movies", wouldn't it?

Given that Batman Begins effortlessly went back and forth between 'present day' and flashbacks until Bruce arrived in Gotham I would hardly call it unique. The flashbacks filled in the blanks on how Bruce came to the point where he was in a prison in Bhutan.

 

[Borat]

Imagine how much better the world would have been without Spider-Man 3...

 

[tang126]

Honestly, I hate when movies do this. I give kudos to the movies who first did this, especially when they did it well, but it gets boring to me. It doesn't add anything to the movie in my opinion.

I disagree. Done right, it can be quite a thing.

In this case, it would show off the one guy we will have waited for a solid year-plus to see, with no long build-up or bullcrap (most folks here are going to be so spoiled on every aspect of the movie anyway by next June, there's no sense dragging it out ).

But you give that jolt, and then work back to it. Gives a "target" to reach for, and you know that all the stuff you're seeing eventually leads to that point you've already been teased to.

I don't know. I could see it working...the whole time you're waiting the "flashback" or build-up, you're drawn-in because you'll want to connect those dots, and you're eager to see all the things that led to that big "reveal" at the bank. You'll be seeing little glimpses - physically, emotionally and mentally - along the way (early crimes, initial encounters and skirmishes with law enforcement and Batman, things deteriorating in Gotham, etc.) and by the time it works its way back to the bank, you've got this nice, satisfying "click" or connection. Then the final 30 minutes or so could just be a balls-out "Batman vs. Joker" showdown, both in full-tilt form, sparring mentally, fighting physically, etc.

Just don't kill the Joker...save him to carry on in part 3. I don't want this Nolan series to follow the previous ones, and feel like they have to introduce every villain in the world, getting sillier with each one.



Joker is the ultimate villain. Let it be in this one, and leave him alive (back in Arkham or uncaptured) to leave a doozy of a plot open for a third (and final) film, without having to fall back on silly penguins or alligator people.

I wouldn't mind a feline woman being hinted at, and slyly introduced, in this second installment, to have a larger role in the third one...if done right.

 

[Borat]

I disagree. Done right, it can be quite a thing.

In this case, it would show off the one guy we will have waited for a solid year-plus to see, with no long build-up or bullcrap (most folks here are going to be so spoiled on every aspect of the movie anyway by next June, there's no sense dragging it out ).

But you give that jolt, and then work back to it. Gives a "target" to reach for, and you know that all the stuff you're seeing eventually leads to that point you've already been teased to.

I don't know. I could see it working...the whole time you're waiting the "flashback" or build-up, you're drawn-in because you'll want to connect those dots, and you're eager to see all the things that led to that big "reveal" at the bank. You'll be seeing little glimpses - physically, emotionally and mentally - along the way (early crimes, initial encounters and skirmishes with law enforcement and Batman, things deteriorating in Gotham, etc.) and by the time it works its way back to the bank, you've got this nice, satisfying "click" or connection. Then the final 30 minutes or so could just be a balls-out "Batman vs. Joker" showdown, both in full-tilt form, sparring mentally, fighting physically, etc.

Just don't kill the Joker...save him to carry on in part 3. I don't want this Nolan series to follow the previous ones, and feel like they have to introduce every villain in the world, getting sillier with each one.



Joker is the ultimate villain. Let it be in this one, and leave him alive (back in Arkham or uncaptured) to leave a doozy of a plot open for a third (and final) film, without having to fall back on silly penguins or alligator people.

I wouldn't mind a feline woman being hinted at, and slyly introduced, in this second installment, to have a larger role in the third one...if done right.

I wouldnt mind if he was presumed dead but leave it open so that he can come back in the 3rd one and make it a huge shock for Batman that hes still alive.

 

[tang126]

Given that Batman Begins effortlessly went back and forth between 'present day' and flashbacks until Bruce arrived in Gotham I would hardly call it unique. The flashbacks filled in the blanks on how Bruce came to the point where he was in a prison in Bhutan.

I would call it "unique" in that this film (pretend it does this, just for sake of argument) - and its predecessor, made by the same director - do it...but not all 432 "superhero movies" released in the past five or so years seem to do it, at least not in the way I was thinking about (a complete framing device).

I wasn't talking "simple, multiple flashbacks" (as that is a common thing, I realize...that Hulk movie did it, as did the Spider-Man ones, as did "Begins" and about 16,000 other movies we've all seen ). But more of a way of framing the entire thing and kick-starting the movie with a bang, vs. a longer, drawn-out build...starting out in the present, working back to an earlier time and coming forward, then continuing on. Like "Swordfish" and "The Usual Suspects" both did, to nice effect.

That's what I was considering "unique", specifically.

 

[Bond]

The Batman Begins Video Game also did this.

 

[itsthebatman]

Fair enough. And it would be interesting. However, Swordfish was crap. The Usual Suspects is genius though.

 

[Batman FREAK]

A boring game btw.

Agreed...it had its moments, but they were way too few and far between. Hope they do better with the new one though...

 

[Borat]

Agreed...it had its moments, but they were way too few and far between. Hope they do better with the new one though...

the batmobile parts were the best!
but yea besides that the game wasnt too bad but they def need to improve on alot.

 

[Bond]

Agreed, I replay The Tumbler chase scenes a couple times a week, even though they're easier than ****.

 

[TheBatman072]

Oh man. I am getting more and more excited about this movie with every peice of info I hear!!

 

[Batman FREAK]

The whole game is too easy honestly...WAY too linear. That needs to be done away with!

 

[The Redux 714]

The structure of this thing interests me, and they might do something neat with it.

Two things: it's obvious from the first movie that there's already this guy running around being a pain-in-the-butt. This article today talks about a "prologue".

I could imagine a self-contained (pre-credits?) little add-on story that would set all this up. Go ahead and introduce the character as is, at the bank, and looking like he does, culminating in that "reveal" shot.

Then the movie could "flashback" to a few days (or weeks) prior, and give us all a little glimpse into how he got that way, show Batman in some more action with other bad guys, etc.

But then the film could end back up at this bank, this scene being the final part of the movie, the getaway and then a final showdown at night somewhere?

Maybe they've got something neat like that planned?

There's a movie, right on the tip of my tongue, that does this: kicks right into the action, gets to a point and stops, flashes back to the days leading up to the current situation, and then situation plays on out from there, during the final third or quarter of the movie...

But they do this and they instantly satisfy our desire to see the character...but just enough to set it up and frame the story, and to let us know that we'll see more of him toward the end?

No rule says it all has to be linear and chronological. From the Joker's full-face "reveal", we could step back and show everything unfolding that leads us to this prologue moment.

- Prologue/tease
- Flashback to: slight origin, Arkham stuff, first encounters with Batman, including the one where he gets his scar and really goes all out with his "look", Batman doing other things, other crimes going on, scenes with Gordon, Alfred, Harvey Dent stuff

The above would play out, and form the meat of the movie.
-Have all the above happen, as the movie, and eventually work our way back, say, at the 3/4 mark or so, to the bank robbery, and pick the story back up where the prologue leaves off, to the conclusion of movie (moving into night, of course, so Batman can be out, doing his thing).

A final showdown somewhere, wherever Joker drives that schoolbus to...

Just thinking about a possible angle/approach.

I think you're thinking about Swordfish...it'd be interestig to say the least. I dunno if I would like it, personally...

BTW, the new pic...THAT, ladies and germs, is the Joker...

 

[tang126]

Fair enough. And it would be interesting. However, Swordfish was crap. The Usual Suspects is genius though.

Well I was never commenting on the quality of the stuff, just how they were presented and played out. "The Usual Suspects" is a more enjoyable movie, but the other has its moments.

But I was mainly talking about how they were framed/structured, that's all. I knew there was something out there that was an example I could use, but it was driving me crazy that I couldn't remember it!

 

[SpinyNorman]

I heard that maybe the reason the Joker looks so colorful in that picture may be because that's the fear gas scene. It would also explain that bizarre window - it's for visual effects.

So maybe we STILL have no idea larger context of how the Joker's going to look. This isn't the bank robbery, so we don't need to care about taking off the makeup, the already-existing scarring, or any of that. It's from a totally different scene in the movie.

 

[itsthebatman]

Well I was never commenting on the quality of the stuff, just how they were presented and played out. "The Usual Suspects" is a more enjoyable movie, but the other has its moments.

But I was mainly talking about how they were framed/structured, that's all.

I know, man. I just couldn't resist commenting on how bad I thought Swordfish was.

 

[Borat]

The whole game is too easy honestly...WAY too linear. That needs to be done away with!

yep true. way too easy

 

[The Shape]

The truth is that we can guess...but we really have no idea what the **** is going on with The Joker, and I love it.

Is his skin permantely white? Does he wear flesh-colored makeup? How can he be normal and Joker-esque in the same scene? When does his face get scarred? Does he have scars in the bank scene? Does he get the scarred DURING the bank scene? How did he become the Joker? Is it his own choice to wear his makeup? WHAT THE **** IS THE DEAL????

This is great. Very mysterious.

 

[Batman FREAK]

^ Agreed.

 

[Borat]

The truth is that we can guess...but we really have no idea what the **** is going on with The Joker, and I love it.

Is his skin permantely white? Does he wear flesh-colored makeup? How can he be normal and Joker-esque in the same scene? When does his face get scarred? Does he have scars in the bank scene? Does he get the scarred DURING the bank scene? How did he become the Joker? Is it his own choice to wear his makeup? WHAT THE **** IS THE DEAL????

This is great. Very mysterious.

lol well...its more then a year away...i dont see why anyone thinks we should know all that info now.

 

[The Shape]

lol well...its more then a year away...i dont see why anyone thinks we should know all that info now.

Exactly, but people keep guessing and making possible stories explaining these mysteries, but no one really has a clue yet.

 

[Mikesimus]

The more I see these pictures come out, the more I have an idea in my head for a first teaser trailer - does anyone think the same??? I can just imagine a few scenes flashed together, culminating in the one whereby the joker reveals himself to the bank manager, but all we as the audience would see is the managers frightened face and hear Ledger whispering "its rude to stare", without seeing Joker at any point in the trailer - am so damn stoked right now lol

 

[Yrik]

Anyone savvy with computers manage to get a zoom, clear close-up of the mirror reflected image in the second shot?

 

[Cristo]

Not me.

 

[superkong 500]

The official press release has been posted on the main page along with the already known synopsis:

The follow-up to the action hit "Batman Begins," "The Dark Knight" reunites director Christopher Nolan and star Christian Bale, who reprises the role of Batman/Bruce Wayne. In the new film, Batman raises the stakes in his war on crime. With the help of Lieutenant Jim Gordon and District Attorney Harvey Dent, Batman sets out to dismantle the remaining criminal organizations that plague the city streets. The partnership proves to be effective, but they soon find themselves prey to a reign of chaos unleashed by a rising criminal mastermind known to the terrified citizens of Gotham as The Joker.