The Dark Knight 4 "Dark Knight" Scenes to be Shot in IMAX!

[TheBatman072]

after looking at the picture below which is the robbery scene, Heath Ledger is
not wearing any make-up underneath his mask. So I am guessing that might be
another scene then.

Strong rumor has it that Heath wears flesh-colored make-up to hide his Joker look for the time being. You're just repeating what everyone else has thought of and dismissed.

Also i noticed this... do you think the guy behind him is
betraying him?

Sigh.

 

[superkong 500]

That's not a mask what you see in the middle section of his hair is the mark of the grumpy mask's string like some have mentioned. If you zoom in the pic you can clearly see all the features in his face are the same as in the teaser viral site pic. Plus he woudn't have another mask under his mask, plus nolan already said it was Joker's reveal not the criminal who would be joker reveal.

 

[nogster]

i think the guy in the background is the joker.

 

[7alex]

alright cool. Thanks for informing me.

 

[superkong 500]

after looking at the picture below which is the robbery scene, Heath Ledger is
not wearing any make-up underneath his mask. So I am guessing that might be
another scene then. Also i noticed this... do you think the guy behind him is
betraying him?

Well from the angle it may appear that way but it cannot be guaranteed really. He could be pointing his gun at random people and not nescessarily to heath/joker. And yes the scene of the joker in make-up is the same scene of the joker with the clown mask just a later moment.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

i think the guy in the background is the joker.

The Joker is in the foreground, in the grumpy clown mask. The Joker gets betrayed in this film. There are set pics of Heath walking around with the same exact suit worn by the grumpy clown mask wearer.

Plus, don't you see the irony? The Joker wearing a grumpy clown mask.

 

[raybia]

The Joker is in the foreground, in the grumpy clown mask. The Joker gets betrayed in this film. There are set pics of Heath walking around with the same exact suit worn by the grumpy clown mask wearer.

Plus, don't you see the irony? The Joker wearing a grumpy clown mask.

Nice.

 

[LostSon88]

after looking at the picture below which is the robbery scene, Heath Ledger is
not wearing any make-up underneath his mask. So I am guessing that might be
another scene then. Also i noticed this... do you think the guy behind him is
betraying him?

Spoliers suggest that The Joker is wearing flesh colored makeup (ala Nicholson's "Joker") to hide his true appearace...even from his own goons.

It isn't until he is confronted by the bank manager that he wipes it off and reveals his true self.

 

[TheBatman072]

The Joker is in the foreground, in the grumpy clown mask. The Joker gets betrayed in this film. There are set pics of Heath walking around with the same exact suit worn by the grumpy clown mask wearer.

Plus, don't you see the irony? The Joker wearing a grumpy clown mask.

Exactly.

 

[Infinity9999x]

in regards to wether or not the Joker is wearing a mask in the blurry scene, I'd have to say that I'd probably bet money he isn't. I mean, why would he wear a mask that looks almost exactaly like the way he's going to look any ways? (if we assume the pic released on the ibelieveinharveydenttoo website is true)

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

look at the pattern in his hair. Doesn't it look smooth and then it
kinda sinks in to where a plastic string might be? I might be wrong.

Yeah and if you look really close you can see Carnage and Lizard.

 

[LostSon88]

Lol.

 

[Manveet]

Well, then Nolan's world is lame.

I want comic accuracy, dammit. Just because it was done in B89 doesn't mean it's wrong. It's the same story in the comics. That'd be like changing Bruce's origin from his parents getting shot in front of him to something new because Burton already did it. Nolan did the same thing, didn't he?

Either it will be the TKJ origin (Like in B89) or the origin will be secret. Simple as that.

Some faulty reasoning on your part.

The reason why Nolan is not going to use the "dropped in a vat of chemicals" origin is because it does not make any sense logically. It has nothing to do with whether or not it was used in Burton's Batman film or whether or not it was used in the comics.

 

[LostSon88]

Who even said Nolan's going to explore that aspect of the Joker? Leave it alone, and let the audience contemplate how he turned into a freak.

Keeping the Joker's true origin a secret makes it much more ambigious and interesting.

 

[TheBatman072]

Some faulty reasoning on your part.

The reason why Nolan is not going to use the "dropped in a vat of chemicals" origin is because it does not make any sense logically. It has nothing to do with whether or not it was used in Burton's Batman film or whether or not it was used in the comics.

I think it's perfectly reasonable for a guy to be dropped into a vat of completely unknown chemical waste, and to emerge with his skin bleached white and his hair dyed green.

But I don't want to know anything about him up to this point, if this is even shown at all. Joker's past before his chemical bath should be a complete mystery to everyone, even Joker.

 

[Mikesimus]

Who even said Nolan's going to explore that aspect of the Joker? Leave it alone, and let the audience contemplate how he turned into a freak.

Keeping the Joker's true origin a secret makes it much more ambigious and interesting.

Here Here!

 

[Mysterio]

Hmmm... no Cillian Murphy in the cast they put in the announcement...

good. he's terrible.

 

[itsthebatman]

I think it's perfectly reasonable for a guy to be dropped into a vat of completely unknown chemical waste, and to emerge with his skin bleached white and his hair dyed green.

But I don't want to know anything about him up to this point, if this is even shown at all. Joker's past before his chemical bath should be a complete mystery to everyone, even Joker.

Must have missed that paper in the New England Journal of Medicine. 'Chemical waste bathing causing bleached skin, red lips and green hair: 17 cases 1990 - 2002).
Seriously, though, who gives a rats ass whther it's realisitc, or reasonable, or just a load of bull they made up on the spot. As long as it's played seriously, we're alright.
That said, there's no indication we will have an origin, so the point is moot.

 

[TheBatman072]

Must have missed that paper in the New England Journal of Medicine. 'Chemical waste bathing causing bleached skin, red lips and green hair: 17 cases 1990 - 2002).
Seriously, though, who gives a rats ass whther it's realisitc, or reasonable, or just a load of bull they made up on the spot. As long as it's played seriously, we're alright.
That said, there's no indication we will have an origin, so the point is moot.

Perfectly reasonable for a comic book movie smartass.

 

[raybia]

I think it's perfectly reasonable for a guy to be dropped into a vat of completely unknown chemical waste, and to emerge with his skin bleached white and his hair dyed green.


Its called suspension of disbelief. These types of movies are always more enjoyable when we employ it.


But I don't want to know anything about him up to this point, if this is even shown at all. Joker's past before his chemical bath should be a complete mystery to everyone, even Joker.

I would prefer Nolan take a page out of the TKJ in regard to this.

Raybia

 

[itsthebatman]

Perfectly reasonable for a comic book movie smartass.

Yeesh. Cool your jets.

 

[TheBat812]

Spoliers suggest that The Joker is wearing flesh colored makeup (ala Nicholson's "Joker") to hide his true appearace...even from his own goons.

It isn't until he is confronted by the bank manager that he wipes it off and reveals his true self.

At this point this is nothing but pure speculation, and I wish people would label it as so. Although, I think something similar to this will happen.

 

[LostSon88]

Everything's speculation, hence the "spoilers suggest".

 

[itsthebatman]

I would prefer Nolan take a page out of the TKJ to regard to this.

Raybia

To go with the Red Hood origin, you mean?

 

[TheBatman072]

I would prefer Nolan take a page out of the TKJ to regard to this.

Raybia

Meh. I'd rather Nolan use conjecture about Joker's pre-Joker history. A struggling comedian, a criminal mastermind, some crazy from Arkham. All possible explainations, and there should never be just one.