The Dark Knight 4 "Dark Knight" Scenes to be Shot in IMAX!

[TheBatman072]

I have a question regarding the bank robbery pics. Is Joker already Joker in "TDK?" Or is he a composite of a green-haired albino bank-robber who then gets scarred and becomes The Joker? Or is he just a man who dresses up as a killer clown? Or are we going to see him actually fall into the vat of chemicals?

Or is it "multiple choice." Because I REALLY hope we see the guy fall into the chemicals, otherwise he isn't Joker but a poser.

From all the rumors we've heard, he's Joker(white skin, green hair) from beginning to end. But at some point, the scarring happens, inadvertantly from something Batman does. And over the course of the movie, Joker becomes more and more insane and obsessed with Batman.

 

[metkalfe]

Way kewl!

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

From all the rumors we've heard, he's Joker(white skin, green hair) from beginning to end. But at some point, the scarring happens, inadvertantly from something Batman does. And over the course of the movie, Joker becomes more and more insane and obsessed with Batman.

So, then no explanation or source of origin explaining just how the hell he became Joker. Yeeeaahh...I'm getting afraid of this movie to be honest. So, is he applying powder, lipstick, and makeup to his face then? In other words, are we not going to get the vat of chemicals? Because if they leave out the part about his skin being altered by chemicals than the man is simply NOT Joker. He is a poser posing as Joker. A fraud in Joker's clown shoes.

 

[theDarkerKnight]

So, then no explanation or source of origin explaining just how the hell he became Joker. Yeeeaahh...I'm getting afraid of this movie to be honest. So, is he applying powder, lipstick, and makeup to his face then? In other words, are we not going to get the vat of chemicals? Because if they leave out the part about his skin being altered by chemicals than the man is simply NOT Joker. He is a poser posing as Joker. A fraud in Joker's clown shoes.

why is it that everyone is stuck on the cem-bath? this is the joker we are talking about...the cem-bath or what ever else has been thought to believed to be the Jokers origin could be 100% fabrication...no one knows the truth, if there is even the truth. and that is what makes the joker joker. you never can trust the guy or what is tied to him. because it could all be apart of the show. Even the Joker him self said that he would rather his origin be a multi-answer. and that he believes his own lies.
The cem-bath wins the most popular vote because it's been around the longest. just as the red hood thing....lets let go of what could be lies

 

[Deaths Head II]

The Chem Bath is Joker's history...You can't really leave it out and have the definitive Joker, IMO. Especially for the mainstream public. '89 Batman even had the chem bath, and this film already has to deal with about a million jumps to top Nicholson's Joker in the public eye. I don't see how they could stumble on the first step and completely leave out how he came about.

 

[P.B.&Chocolate]

I really like this look for the Joker way better than the IBIHDT picture. I am a big fan of the Romero Joker look and like the way the makeup on Heath Ledger looks similar .I find it kind of weird that WB has yet to release a press notice on the first image .

 

[Conebone69]

You have to be of a certain post count.

Oh, that sucks. Do you know how many posts you have to have

 

[theDarkerKnight]

okay yes, the joker did fall into a cem-bath and crawled out with perfectly applyed makeup...in 89. but really that was 89 the people want something with more substands for one. and for two as a true batman/joker fan you must, and this is absolute, must understand that not a single thread is to be mistaken for truth with this guy...it's part of the show that you get with the joker. he's almost like the wizard from wizard of oz..but with when you pull back the curtin you only find yet another curtin. and then another and another and so on. no one knows Jokers true name much less than his true origins. and the way i see it that nolan's batman is more or less for the fans...yup, i said it, no rather typed it....nolan's batman is for the fans...yes there are some changes but at least its not such a drastic change like 89's batman, where it was the Joker whom killed bruce's folks...in nolan's we got JOE CHILL, the real man behind the bullit. this franchise has been marketed as a "RE-boot" to me that means a chance to set things right with batman fans and outsiders...even though its not 100% its 97.8%. IMO(x100)

 

[Nepenthes]

^ mate, the chem bath has been pretty well established. It's in the Jokers first origin and the Man Who Laughs. You can ignore it all you want for the sake of 'mystery' but that will just be your subjective view.

I agree with DeathsHeadII Nolan needs to at least *allude* to how the Joker got all green and white. You can't go without explaining something like that, it's not mysterious, just cheap, and it ruins the credibility of any 'realism' Nolan is trying to maintain. To say 'Oh he just got that way..... isn't he weird looking!' is like something out of a cartoon. People will be wondering wtf.

 

[theDarkerKnight]

well, just having a guy craw out of a vat of cems with dyed green hair and a nice-milky white skin and a perfectly applyed lipstick is a little cheep...
IMO
and to be honest the cem-bath didn't show up for a few years after the joker was written into the bat-books and the bath was even noted to be a phone in thing anyways.

 

[Boom]

well, just having a guy craw out of a vat of cems with dyed green hair and a nice-milky white skin and a perfectly applyed lipstick is a little cheep...
IMO
and to be honest the cem-bath didn't show up for a few years after the joker was written into the bat-books and the bath was even noted to be a phone in thing anyways.

Chlorine can bleach the skin, and has been known to give a green tint to hair.

 

[theDarkerKnight]

there are a zillion ways that the joker could have been the joker and most of them where explored in the batbooks..so why not let those ways be explored on film?

 

[Cain]

okay yes, the joker did fall into a cem-bath and crawled out with perfectly applyed makeup...in 89.

He did?!?

 

[theDarkerKnight]

yup from what i just saw...oh! and his finder nails where painted also

 

[Boom]

there are a zillion ways that the joker could have been the joker and most of them where explored in the batbooks..so why not let those ways be explored on film?

You're right.

While we're at it, there are a zillion ways that Batman could have become Batman.

Let's retcon the franchise. Bruce Wayne donned the cape and cowl because he's always wanted to be giant bat.

 

[Cain]

yup from what i just saw...oh! and his finder nails where painted also

Then why did he apply ruby red make up on himself throughout the movie? and so what if his nails were green this was a movie that made it's surrealism very clear from the beginning.

 

[theDarkerKnight]

no you are missunderstanding here boom...it is written that the joker has 100 possibile ways that he became the joker...with bruce it was one right from the start. it was one tried and true for years. with the joker a million answers to how and why he became the joker have been written, reffed and so on.
that is what i am saying. and again to re state my self, the cem bath was phoned in. and it is something that can not be taken for a true cannon fact...

 

[theDarkerKnight]

Then why did he apply ruby red make up on himself throughout the movie? and so what if his nails were green this was a movie that made it's surrealism very clear from the beginning.

i only recall him "applying" make up maybe 2 times. the cem-bath was one of the first shots we seen in the movie...nothing surreal happend before, not counting the giant bat that attacked some thugs....to me this whole cem-bath thing is like the killiing of bruces parents....everyone saw what was seen in 89 that thomas and martha was gunned down by a young-THIN-Jack Napier and thus for years upon years everyone (even some fans) would say that the joker is the man that killed Thomas and Martha and is batman cannon stuff. that is what this cem-bath is..everyone saw it in b89 and assumes that that is what happened to the joker...pfftt is what i saw, sir

and that is IMO

 

[Cain]

i only recall him "applying" make up maybe 2 times. the cem-bath was one of the first shots we seen in the movie...nothing surreal happend before, not counting the giant bat that attacked some thugs....to me this whole cem-bath thing is like the killiing of bruces parents....everyone saw what was seen in 89 that thomas and martha was gunned down by a young-THIN-Jack Napier and thus for years upon years everyone (even some fans) would say that the joker is the man that killed Thomas and Martha and is batman cannon stuff. that is what this cem-bath is..everyone saw it in b89 and assumes that that is what happened to the joker...pfftt is what i saw, sir

and that is IMO

Gotham City itself was surreal looking. There was no real city that looked like it. Once that film started you knew you were in for a gothic fantasy. It was the 80's man the decade of style over substance the whole purpose of the film and Burton's M.O. at the time was surreal visualism. Now anybody who cared enough about Batman outside the movie would make it their business to know what the deal is anyway.

Chances are anybody who goes off what the '89 movie stated doesn't care enough about the mythos in the first place to do their research so really who gives a damn what they think as long as you as a fan know the truth.

The only reason the chemical bath is highly regarded as canon by a lot of fans including Ed Brubaker who wrote it into his Man Who Laughs one shot is not cause of Burton's movies, it's not even cause of The Killing Joke. It's because of this comic right here

Had that issue never been published people wouldn't really be running with the idea for many decades after it's release. Mind you I don't care for a Joker origin myself I prefer an ambigious background I don't like when too much is spelled out for the audience. However to think that people just like the chem bath idea cause of Burton's film is a little silly. People just liked that idea because it's been the most consistently played with out of all the possible origins or perhaps because they want to come across as purists but not because they can't get over that movie from 18 years back.

 

[DocLathropBrown]

i only recall him "applying" make up maybe 2 times. the cem-bath was one of the first shots we seen in the movie...nothing surreal happend before, not counting the giant bat that attacked some thugs....to me this whole cem-bath thing is like the killiing of bruces parents....everyone saw what was seen in 89 that thomas and martha was gunned down by a young-THIN-Jack Napier and thus for years upon years everyone (even some fans) would say that the joker is the man that killed Thomas and Martha and is batman cannon stuff. that is what this cem-bath is..everyone saw it in b89 and assumes that that is what happened to the joker...pfftt is what i saw, sir

and that is IMO

Ummm.... B89 got the "chem bath" from the comics. Do you think Burton made it up or something? Burton and the screenwriter took it from TKJ (Alan Moore, in turn, just updated the origin as it was Pre-Crisis, anyway), which was considered the definitive Joker origin at the time, and is still considered by most to be his real origin, since TKJ isn't from his perspective, therefore, it's not "false."

DC is about to retcon it from what I understand, but the fact remains that your problem with it being in B89 is irrational. If you're going to complain about it, complain about it being canon in the comics in the first place, don't try and insinuate that it was something that Burton made up.

I swear, do people just assume Burton made everything up? People sure don't want to have to admit that he took his cues from a few different eras of the real comic material (For B89 at least).

 

[Shoemeister]

I always wondered how he could see throught that thing. Especially from that (quite literal) interpretation from the "Patient J" fan film.

Red plastic helmet. LAWLZ...

 

[Conebone69]

So are these four action imax (HD) scenes gonna be in regular theaters too or just the imax

 

[Nepenthes]

In regular theaters the scenes will look better than the rest of the film. more detail, more intense

 

[Conebone69]

In regular theaters the scenes will look better than the rest of the film. more detail, more intense

Awesome, I cant wait to see what they look like

 

[Steelsheen]

Is that him w/o the mask??

what the heck is that? a screen? can someone un-blur that please?

anyway, i asked for another photo, another angle of Joker--- i aint gonna say those 3 words yet, but HeathJoker is looking really good!

In regular theaters the scenes will look better than the rest of the film. more detail, more intense

i'm really excited about this. they did a pretty good job with SR, cant wait to see how this turns out of TDK



so there are 4 scenes. i think the article pretty much confirms that the first one will be the prologue about Joker's backstory. any idea which the other 3 are?